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Sangiovese grape in the new world?



 
 
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Old 02-07-2007, 02:25 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:40 PM posted to alt.food.wine
James Silverton[_2_]
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Scott wrote on Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:25:06 -0500:

S Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico
S in which I really enjoy. While I was drinking I was
S wondering why is the Sangiovese grape only grown in Italy
S (as far as I know) and not in the new world?

I don't think it is one of the most popular grapes but I have
seen Sangiovese wine from several California vintners.

James Silverton
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:39 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 08:25:06 -0500, Scott wrote:

Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?



No, that isn't correct. It's also grown in California, Chile, and
Argentina (and maybe other places too). It's bottled by itself in
California and also in blends. One well-known California blend is the
Ferrari-Carano Siena, which blends Sangiovese with Cabernet Sauvignon
and Malbec (although the exact blend probably differs from vintage to
vintage).

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Old 02-07-2007, 04:41 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

"Scott" wrote in message
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Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I don't know about the rest of the "new world", but it is definitely grown
in California. Try Venge Vineyards, Silverado Vineyards, Montevina,
and La Famiglia di Robert Mondavi. My friends at Chateau Garage
and I even made some ourselves a couple of years ago.

Jim



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Old 02-07-2007, 05:23 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott wrote:
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I have had a couple of great Sangiovese's from Silverado (stags leap
district Napa valley). The better of the two bottlings was called
"Fantasia".

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Old 02-07-2007, 05:34 PM posted to alt.food.wine
Paul E. Lehmann
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

Scott wrote:

Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi
Chianti Classico in which I really enjoy. While
I was drinking I was wondering why is the
Sangiovese grape only grown in Italy (as far as
I know) and not in the new world?


Besides California, it is also grown in North
Carolina - of all places, and I believe at a few
vineyards in Virginia. If I had more room in my
back yard vineyard, I would also grow some here
in Central Maryland.
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:11 PM posted to alt.food.wine
Lawrence Leichtman[_1_]
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

In article ,
Scott wrote:

Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


It is widely grown in California and now even Texas and New Mexico so
I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:45 AM posted to alt.food.wine
Darby
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

On my vinodiversity database I have 180 or so wineries in Australia
are making wine from Sangiovese. To put this into perspective there
are about 2,500 wineries in Oz. It has only been used in any great
quantities here since the 1990's. Coriole in the McLaren vale region
and Pizzini in the King Valley are notable pioneers, but the
competition is getting better every year.

One problem with the variety is that there are many clones, some of
the less desirable ones have been propagated widely, but better
selection of plants as well as improvements in vineyard and winery
practices has seen a marked rise in wine quality. It will only get
better as technology and experience combine to improve the (already
high) standards of Aussie Sangiovese.


On Jul 2, 11:25 pm, Scott wrote:
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?



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Old 03-07-2007, 02:45 AM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

On Jul 2, 6:25 am, Scott wrote:
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?


I've had several very nice Sangiovese wines from Washington wineries,
including a couple of rosés.

Andy

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:32 AM posted to alt.food.wine
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"Ken Blake" wrote ..............

It's also grown in California, Chile, and Argentina ...


And Australia - and New Zealand ....

st.h


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Old 03-07-2007, 08:42 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Default Sangiovese grape in the new world?

On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott wrote:
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?




It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.

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Old 03-07-2007, 09:20 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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Trust me it's more marketing than climate. As well as protection of the
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On Jul 2, 9:25 am, Scott wrote:
Over the weekend I had a bottle of Cecchi Chianti Classico in which I
really enjoy. While I was drinking I was wondering why is the Sangiovese
grape only grown in Italy (as far as I know) and not in the new world?




It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


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Old 03-07-2007, 09:45 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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On Jul 3, 4:20 pm, "The Subject®" wrote:
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Trust me it's more marketing than climate. As well as protection of the
region.

"UC" wrote in message


It won't taste like Chinati elsewhere, and I don't care much for
Chianti anyway.

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Old 04-07-2007, 03:00 AM posted to alt.food.wine
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UC wrote:

It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


Two reasons. Chianti is a blend. Sangiovese is a varietal. Numerous
California Sangioveses are 100% so I agree, they are not Chianti.
Second, I dont want Sangiovese to taste like Chianti! That would ruin it!

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Old 05-07-2007, 01:56 PM posted to alt.food.wine
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On Jul 3, 10:00 pm, miles wrote:
UC wrote:
It's a matter of climate. I'm sure Sangiovese is grown elsewhere, but
it won't tatse like Chianti elsewhere.


Two reasons. Chianti is a blend. Sangiovese is a varietal. Numerous
California Sangioveses are 100% so I agree, they are not Chianti.
Second, I dont want Sangiovese to taste like Chianti! That would ruin it!




Yes, I agree! Most Chianti is shit.

 




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