Tried this today and yuck. I had it in "whopper" form and the first
couple of bites were decent but after awhile its just gross. It had no
"meatish" flavor but was merely and obviously carrots, onions, red
peppers and something I couldn't quite put my finger on. lol. Anybody
know what this type of burger is called so I can avoid it? Are the
morningstar ones like this?

(Susie Q) wrote in news:23545-3FE21099-
:

Tried this today and yuck.

Try Quorn Hamburgers instead.

/Tommy P.

According to :
Tried this today and yuck.
Try Quorn Hamburgers instead.

I've always found quorn burgers too dry. They're still a 'low fat' food
rather than a 'vegetarian' food. But in the UK, most major supermarkets
do a decent veggie quarter pounder (typically about 1.49 for a packet of
2), and I'm quite fond of them in a non-vegetable kind of way.

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"Susie Q" wrote in message
...
Tried this today and yuck. I had it in "whopper" form and the first
couple of bites were decent but after awhile its just gross. It had no
"meatish" flavor but was merely and obviously carrots, onions, red
peppers and something I couldn't quite put my finger on. lol. Anybody
know what this type of burger is called so I can avoid it? Are the
morningstar ones like this?

If you expect that veggie burgers will taste like meat then you will always
be disappointed. They are a sandwich in their own right. Morningstar Spicy
Black Bean burgers are my favorite.

I understand what you mean, James. Like carob is awful if you expect it
to taste like chocolate but is okay as it's own flavor. But I disagree
about veggie burgers never tasting like meat. It has been a long time
since I've eaten a meat burger but I really love Boca Burgers. They
have what I remember as a real meat flavor. The texture is good, too.
They look quite a bit like the soybean burgers from grade school - taste
better though.

Cheers,
Kate

C. James Strutz wrote:
If you expect that veggie burgers will taste like meat then you will
always
be disappointed. They are a sandwich in their own right. Morningstar Spicy
Black Bean burgers are my favorite.

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:07:27 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:43:55 GMT, "C. James Strutz"
wrote:

If you expect that veggie burgers will taste like meat then you will always
be disappointed. They are a sandwich in their own right. Morningstar Spicy
Black Bean burgers are my favorite.

Not only that - the 'fake meat' ones have always been just
awful (to me, in my own opinion only). I've tried several,
and tried one brand several times, as so many other people
say they are good.

However, the 'frankly vegetables' ones can be very nice
(again, in my own opinion only).

I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself. I once watched the preparation of a veggie-burger recipe
on CNN that involved at least 6 separate cooking, chopping, mixing
arrangements of perhaps 10 foods to produce a patty-shaped object that
would (after a final cooking) fit onto a hamburger bun. Why not spend
the same time and effort on genuinely vegetarian dishes that *don't*
have to look/taste like meat?

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:14:51 GMT, Frogleg wrote:


I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself.

There are some vegetarians who've given up eating meat for moral
reasons, and in spite of the fact that they actually like the
taste/texture/whatever of it. For them, a meat substitute gives them a
taste/texture/whatever that they enjoy without them actually eating
meat.

(I'm lucky: I don't fall into this category, even though I ate meat
until I was in my mid-twenties. But I can understand, and sympathise
with, the difficulties faced by people who crave meat but feel the
need to deny themselves the actuality. Mind you, I do find it a bit
difficult when I eat in a Pizza Hut and someone on the next table has
pepperoni on their pizza.)

Peter.

wrote in news:s1kguv0vpg8njercjru40uh3r3rsn07shn@
4ax.com:

It's funny how tastes differ so drastically.

So many people have written that they love Boca Burgers: so
I tried them. I thought they were disgusting...

Time passed and yet more people wrote that they loved
them...so I tried them again. I thought they were
disgusting again...

This is a classic example of 'YMMV', for sure.

Pat

Oh, I agree! One of my co-workers raved about Boca Burgers; I really
didn't like them at all. I find that I prefer Gardenburgers, several of
the varieties, but not the one that takes charcoal-ly...
dei

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 18:25:37 GMT, Peter
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:14:51 GMT, Frogleg wrote:


I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself.

There are some vegetarians who've given up eating meat for moral
reasons, and in spite of the fact that they actually like the
taste/texture/whatever of it. For them, a meat substitute gives them a
taste/texture/whatever that they enjoy without them actually eating
meat.

I take your point. Perhaps the same as a diabetic with a powerful
hunger for candy? I *do* admire veg cuisines that have evolved
*without* having to seem meat-like. If someone else would do the prep,
I'd switch to south Indian food in a heartbeat. :-)

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:14:51 GMT, Frogleg took a
very strange color crayon and scribbled:

I once watched the preparation of a veggie-burger recipe
on CNN that involved at least 6 separate cooking, chopping, mixing
arrangements of perhaps 10 foods to produce a patty-shaped object that
would (after a final cooking) fit onto a hamburger bun. Why not spend
the same time and effort on genuinely vegetarian dishes that *don't*
have to look/taste like meat?

I don't do all that. Usually if I want a "patty" I just buy the
pre-made veggie ones in the freezer section of my grocery store. If I
want to make one, I can buy a mix that works with mashed tofu or water
and/or egg and then fry on both sides in a skillet.


--
Therese Shellabarger / The Roving Reporter - Civis Mundi
/ http://tlshell.cnc.net/

Try Boca Burgers from the stores. They are very good and come in many
flavours.
Matt

Susie Q wrote:
Tried this today and yuck. I had it in "whopper" form and the first
couple of bites were decent but after awhile its just gross. It had no
"meatish" flavor but was merely and obviously carrots, onions, red
peppers and something I couldn't quite put my finger on. lol. Anybody
know what this type of burger is called so I can avoid it? Are the
morningstar ones like this?

Try Boca Burgers from the stores. They are very good and come in many
flavours.
Matt


The Boca burgers *are* terrific but are not kosher. Periodically, I go to
their Web site and remind them that there are a bunch of people who would love
to be customers if they'd go kosher.

pine
Starve a troll, feed a fever, that's my motto.

Frogleg wrote:
I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself.

Many years ago, before I'd become vegetarian myself, my brother-in-law
(veggie since the '70s) was visiting us. He expressed very much the
same feelings you have. Although there were very few veggie burger-type
products back then, he refused to eat the few that were available, such
as fake bacon. To him, it made no sense to seek out something that
supposedly tastes like its meat counterpart if you're vegetarian. I've
been veggie since the '80s--and I totally disagree!

I became vegetarian due to ethical issues with the
cruelty/abuse/mistreatment/slaughter of animals. I never claimed that
the TASTE of meat bothered me! I occasionally have a craving for a
'hamburger' with the works--lettuce, tomato, ketchup, bun, etc., or a
'hot dog' with relish, onions, mustard, etc. When that happens, I get
some of the Morningstar Farms 'burgers' or one of several brands of
veggie hot dogs that I like and have fun! Usually, though, I buy the
other varieties of Morningstar Farms veggie burgers; the Tomato and
Basil Pizza Burgers and the Garden Veggie Patties are my favorites.

I once watched the preparation of a veggie-burger recipe
on CNN that involved at least 6 separate cooking, chopping, mixing
arrangements of perhaps 10 foods to produce a patty-shaped object that
would (after a final cooking) fit onto a hamburger bun. Why not spend
the same time and effort on genuinely vegetarian dishes that *don't*
have to look/taste like meat?

Because we're not all vegetarians for the same reasons? Or because we
want to prepare a dish that our non-veggie guests will feel at home
with? During a recent visit, my mother was astonished at the tacos I
made using the 'fake ground meat' crumbles. She actually asked me if I
was still vegetarian...she thought it was real meat. And they tasted great!

BTW, personally, *I* would never spend my time preparing something like
you've described, when I can grab a package of veggie burgers from my
freezer and be eating in a few minutes!

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Frogleg wrote:
I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself. I once watched the preparation of a veggie-burger recipe
on CNN that involved at least 6 separate cooking, chopping, mixing
arrangements of perhaps 10 foods to produce a patty-shaped object that
would (after a final cooking) fit onto a hamburger bun. Why not spend
the same time and effort on genuinely vegetarian dishes that *don't*
have to look/taste like meat?

Animal products, other then their taste, actually play a role in food.

For example, take 'veganaise'. Am I using it to replace the taste of
mayonaise? Nope. I'm using it because sandwiches taste a little better
with some fatty spread.

If they sold 'vegan sandwich spread', I'd be less likely to buy it.
But, since they call it veganaise, I know it might act like mayonaise,
and be used in the same way.

And a lot of the time, the vegan products does not taste anything like the
animal-based product it replaces, but works in the same way. (Tuno
falls under this category for me - YMMV)

Just my $.02


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On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 09:10:43 GMT, Happy Thoughts
wrote:

Frogleg wrote:
I am an omnivore and frankly don't understand why a vegetarian would
seek meat-like flavor while distaining/giving up/choosing not to eat
meat itself.

Many years ago, before I'd become vegetarian myself, my brother-in-law
(veggie since the '70s) was visiting us. He expressed very much the
same feelings you have. Although there were very few veggie burger-type
products back then, he refused to eat the few that were available, such
as fake bacon. To him, it made no sense to seek out something that
supposedly tastes like its meat counterpart if you're vegetarian. I've
been veggie since the '80s--and I totally disagree!

Hmmm. My thoughtful reply doesn't seem to have gotten through.

I believe I thanked you for your information, which made sense to me.

I also said I didn't agree with preparing burger-like things non-veg
types would be "comfortable" with. Like fixing Greek food for a
visiting Greek friend. :-) They can get much better at home -- if my
specialty were Thai (or vegetarian), I'd cook *my* idea of good stuff.