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Old 30-07-2006, 10:12 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Bawl
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http://www.notmilk.com

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Old 31-07-2006, 03:54 AM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
quidam
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ah the propaganda.


i just don't drink milk any more because there's this funky asprin
taste and it gives me acid reflux and i'm sure it's not because i'm
lactose intolerant.
(i'm not.. i just don't like drinking a vomit shake of hormones and
chemicals)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


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Old 31-07-2006, 02:45 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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quidam wrote:
ah the propaganda.


i just don't drink milk any more because there's this funky asprin
taste and it gives me acid reflux and i'm sure it's not because i'm
lactose intolerant.
(i'm not.. i just don't like drinking a vomit shake of hormones and
chemicals)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


What is presented today as milk in the supermarket is not really milk.
What comes out of the cow is milk. But when you high temperature
pasteurize it and honogenize it and separate it and re-constitute it to
a specified fat content with powdered milk solids, it is no longer real
milk. It is a processed dead concoction.

The really sad thing is that real milk (from real healthy cows, fed
real food) that isn't processed to death, is one of the healthiest
foods available to man.

TC

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Old 05-08-2006, 11:39 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Leif's Smarter Brother
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TC wrote:
quidam wrote:
ah the propaganda.


i just don't drink milk any more because there's this funky asprin
taste and it gives me acid reflux and i'm sure it's not because i'm
lactose intolerant.
(i'm not.. i just don't like drinking a vomit shake of hormones and
chemicals)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


What is presented today as milk in the supermarket is not really milk.
What comes out of the cow is milk. But when you high temperature
pasteurize it and honogenize it and separate it and re-constitute it to
a specified fat content with powdered milk solids, it is no longer real
milk. It is a processed dead concoction.

The really sad thing is that real milk (from real healthy cows, fed
real food) that isn't processed to death, is one of the healthiest
foods available to man.




If you believe *that* then I have a bridge in Brooklyn you may be
interested in.


better go to http://www.notmilk.com and *this* time THOROUGHLY read the
info!!!







TC


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Old 08-08-2006, 02:27 AM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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Leif's Smarter Brother wrote:
TC wrote:
quidam wrote:
ah the propaganda.


i just don't drink milk any more because there's this funky asprin
taste and it gives me acid reflux and i'm sure it's not because i'm
lactose intolerant.
(i'm not.. i just don't like drinking a vomit shake of hormones and
chemicals)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


What is presented today as milk in the supermarket is not really milk.
What comes out of the cow is milk. But when you high temperature
pasteurize it and honogenize it and separate it and re-constitute it to
a specified fat content with powdered milk solids, it is no longer real
milk. It is a processed dead concoction.

The really sad thing is that real milk (from real healthy cows, fed
real food) that isn't processed to death, is one of the healthiest
foods available to man.




If you believe *that* then I have a bridge in Brooklyn you may be
interested in.


better go to http://www.notmilk.com and *this* time THOROUGHLY read the
info!!!


I have read much better info than can be found at that vegan propanda
site.

TC

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Old 23-08-2006, 01:04 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Nick Chan
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the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


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Old 23-08-2006, 03:43 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC

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Old 23-08-2006, 10:29 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
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TC wrote:
Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC

There was a documentary on T.V. about Uganda. The men in some tribes
like their women fat so several months before the wedding they go to
special huts to drink milk and get grossly fat. It works!

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Old 24-08-2006, 04:07 AM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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scotty wrote:
TC wrote:
Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com


Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC

There was a documentary on T.V. about Uganda. The men in some tribes
like their women fat so several months before the wedding they go to
special huts to drink milk and get grossly fat. It works!


That is just plain stupid.

TC

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Old 24-08-2006, 04:39 AM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
pickle-head@hotmail.com
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That is just plain stupid.

TC


Just as stupid as a PETA hater coming up with a phrase like "It is a
processed dead concoction. "

Pot: Meet Kettle.

Hypocrite.

PH.
Keeping it sane.

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Old 25-08-2006, 08:40 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Rob[_7_]
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scotty wrote:
TC wrote:
Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com

Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC

There was a documentary on T.V. about Uganda. The men in some tribes
like their women fat so several months before the wedding they go to
special huts to drink milk and get grossly fat. It works!


Hey, are these the guys that if the gals are not fat enough, they tie on
pillows to their butts to make them look big and round?\\

I saw a show some years back about a place in Africa that showed this.
Then the all danced around a fire, when to huts and got knocked up. But
only the big butt gals.

Rob
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:42 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Rob[_7_]
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TC wrote:
scotty wrote:
TC wrote:
Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com
Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC

There was a documentary on T.V. about Uganda. The men in some tribes
like their women fat so several months before the wedding they go to
special huts to drink milk and get grossly fat. It works!


That is just plain stupid.

TC


Why is that stupid? I mean calf's get fat on the stuff, why not humans?

And remember the milk is as it comes out of the cows, not the skimmed
stuff we drink here. I understand the milk where there is a lot of
cream, and fat in the milk will put the pounds on you if you drink
enough of it.

Rob
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Old 25-08-2006, 08:54 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
Ron Peterson
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TC wrote:

Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.


Have there been any lab tests showing that pasteurized cow's milk
protein is inferior to raw cow's milk protein?

--
Ron

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Old 25-08-2006, 08:57 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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Rob wrote:
TC wrote:
scotty wrote:
TC wrote:
Nick Chan wrote:
the same medical team in canada that discovers insulin relating to
diabetes,
has reasons to believe that cow's milk protein is the cause of
diabetes)

Bawl wrote:
http://www.notmilk.com
Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.

TC
There was a documentary on T.V. about Uganda. The men in some tribes
like their women fat so several months before the wedding they go to
special huts to drink milk and get grossly fat. It works!


That is just plain stupid.

TC


Why is that stupid? I mean calf's get fat on the stuff, why not humans?


Cattle get fat on grains. They grow on milk. There is a difference
between growing up and growing fat, moron.


And remember the milk is as it comes out of the cows, not the skimmed
stuff we drink here. I understand the milk where there is a lot of
cream, and fat in the milk will put the pounds on you if you drink
enough of it.

Rob


The French eat copious amounts of fresh dairy including full fat milk
and cream and they have been shown to be thinner and healthier than the
Americans gorging themsleves on low fat foods including low fat milk.

TC

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Old 25-08-2006, 08:58 PM posted to sci.agriculture,sci.med.nutrition,alt.food.vegan
TC
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Ron Peterson wrote:
TC wrote:

Real cow's milk protein or denatured overly processed ultra-high
temperature pasteurized cow's milk protein? There is a difference.


Have there been any lab tests showing that pasteurized cow's milk
protein is inferior to raw cow's milk protein?

--
Ron


Thye've shown that high temp pasteurization denatures the protein by
causing them to get mis-formed or mis-shapen. HT pasteurized milk is a
dead food.

TC

 




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