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yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a multivitamin? The biggest nutritional problem for vegans seems to be vitamin B12. Apparently the body can store enough B12 to last for years without B12 in the diet. The amount of B12 that is needed is very small. But getting that small amount is important. If you wait until need B12, then by the time you notice that you are B12 deficient the damage to your health can be both serious and permanent. You can be in good health for a long time and then sudden and permanent crash. To be on the safe side, you might want to take a B12 supplement. It won't do harm and it might save your health and your life. If you take a B12 supplement, don't take B12 in the form of cyanocobalamin. Better is methylcobalamin. Cyano-B12 is more popular because it is cheaper and because it has a longer shelf life. But cyano-B12 is inferior to methyl-B12. In the worst case scenario, cyano-B12 acts as an antivitamin and can cause a deficiency of B12; obviously you don't want that. In the best case scenario, cyano-B12 is not used well. Methyl-B12 doesn't have these problems. And it tastes better too. There are a few other possible nutritional problems with a vegan diet. Omega-3 might be a problem. You can get omega-3 from plant-source foods such as flax and hemp and a few others, but that's not long-chain omega-3. The body has to convert from short-chain and medium-chain to long-chain, and how well it does might be a question. A safer bet might be to take a DHA supplement. This comes from seaweed and algae; probably the only plant-sources of long-chain omega-3. The DHA in fish oil comes from the algae that the fish eat. Deficiency of omega-3 can cause brain diseases. ----- BTW, according to Blaylock, it is possible for a blood test to show an adequate level of B12 in the blood but the level of B12 in the tissues can be deficient. |
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yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a multivitamin? If you go to the link in my sig you will find a few short articles from trustworthy authorities about how to be healthy on a vegan diet: Good Luck Steve Be A Healthy Vegan Or Vegetarian http://www.geocities.com/beforewisdo...ealthyVeg.html "The great American thought trap: It is not real unless it can be seen on television or bought in a shopping mall" |
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Thanks for the input everybody. This will probably help.
Steve wrote: yaj wrote: I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. Can I just take a multivitamin? If you go to the link in my sig you will find a few short articles from trustworthy authorities about how to be healthy on a vegan diet: Good Luck Steve Be A Healthy Vegan Or Vegetarian http://www.geocities.com/beforewisdo...ealthyVeg.html "The great American thought trap: It is not real unless it can be seen on television or bought in a shopping mall" |
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yaj wrote:
I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. Moral choice for what? I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet. Can I just take a multivitamin? That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right *health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make. |
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usual suspect wrote:
yaj wrote: I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. Moral choice for what? I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet. Can I just take a multivitamin? That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right *health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make. What do you think of the China Study? The China Study: http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he does a 3-4 mile run each morning. |
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"Jerry Story" wrote in message ups.com... usual suspect wrote: yaj wrote: I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. Moral choice for what? I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet. Can I just take a multivitamin? That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right *health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make. What do you think of the China Study? = The China Study: http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html ========================== LOL That's a link to a shill trying to sell a book. It's not a look at the study at all. Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he does a 3-4 mile run each morning. ========================= I've hed many family members that would laugh at being able to live a life so easy as to only have to run a couple miles a day that were still more active than that into their 90s. Life on a northern farm is work from dawn to dusk, and this time a year before and after... |
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Jerry Story wrote:
usual suspect wrote: yaj wrote: I was thinking that going vegan would be the right moral choice. Moral choice for what? I was wondering what suppliments I would need for this. B12, iron, zinc, and other minerals that bind to the overabundant mineral-robbing phytates found in a strict vegetarian diet. Can I just take a multivitamin? That or just eat a varied diet -- you know, one that's the "right *health* choice" as opposed to the empty gesture you want to make. What do you think of the China Study? It's bullshit. Campbell did a dietary survey, not a medical study. He ignored other lifestyle factors, like physical activity, that also play roles in longevity. It's not surprising to me that he would reach the particular conclusions he did. Campbell is part of the coven along with Neal Barnard at PCRM, a militant animal rights group with a predominantly (95%+) lay (non-scientific) membership base. This vocal PCRM Advisory Board member has appeared in print, warning of the supposed dangers related to dioxin in food (especially in meat). He also serves as chairman of a company called Paracelsian, Inc., which markets its own proprietary method of dioxin testing. http://www.activistcash.com/organiza...iew.cfm/oid/23 See also: http://www.activistcash.com/biography.cfm/bid/1501 In fairness, though, he's not the zealot that Barnard is: Campbell's recommendations include consumption of small amounts of fish. Dr. Campbell was on C2C. He said he is 73 years old and he does a 3-4 mile run each morning. Anecdotal. |
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