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Old 15-01-2005, 12:47 AM
Ron
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In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:

What I can conclude is that if I am willing to buy stolen

goods then I
am exhibiting a desire to have stolen goods purchased from me

-- that
would be the rule operationalized.

No, dipshit. That would not be the rule "operationalized" (you
jargon-spewing freak). The rule "operationalized", or given force

to
use plain English, would be that by buying stolen merchandise, you

are
saying that you don't mind if someone STEALS goods from you; not
"purchases goods from you", dipshit, STEALS goods from you.

You are just too stupid to do this. You ought to stop. You aren't

5%
as clever as you imagine yourself to be.


*another blip

Another substance-free post by the pathetic little fudgepacker.


Ah, editing. That's sweet. The gaydar has you pegged and the notices
went out.
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  #92 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 12:48 AM
Jay Santos
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Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article

.com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:

What I can conclude is that if I am willing to buy stolen

goods then I
am exhibiting a desire to have stolen goods purchased

from me
-- that
would be the rule operationalized.

No, dipshit. That would not be the rule "operationalized" (you
jargon-spewing freak). The rule "operationalized", or given

force
to
use plain English, would be that by buying stolen merchandise,

you
are
saying that you don't mind if someone STEALS goods from you;

not
"purchases goods from you", dipshit, STEALS goods from you.

You are just too stupid to do this. You ought to stop. You

aren't
5%
as clever as you imagine yourself to be.

*another blip

Another substance-free post by the pathetic little fudgepacker.


Ah,

Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little fudgepacker.

  #93 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 01:18 AM
Ron
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In article . com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article

.com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:

What I can conclude is that if I am willing to buy stolen
goods then I
am exhibiting a desire to have stolen goods purchased

from me
-- that
would be the rule operationalized.

No, dipshit. That would not be the rule "operationalized" (you
jargon-spewing freak). The rule "operationalized", or given

force
to
use plain English, would be that by buying stolen merchandise,

you
are
saying that you don't mind if someone STEALS goods from you;

not
"purchases goods from you", dipshit, STEALS goods from you.

You are just too stupid to do this. You ought to stop. You

aren't
5%
as clever as you imagine yourself to be.

*another blip
Another substance-free post by the pathetic little fudgepacker.


Ah,

Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little fudgepacker.


*gaydar on overload*
  #94 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 01:26 AM
Jay Santos
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Ron wrote:
In article . com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article

.com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:



*another blip
Another substance-free post by the pathetic little fudgepacker.

Ah,

Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little fudgepacker.


*gaydar on overload*


You really are a self-loathing homo.

  #95 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 01:32 AM
Ron
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In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article . com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Fudgepacker wrote:
In article

.com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:



*another blip
Another substance-free post by the pathetic little fudgepacker.

Ah,
Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little fudgepacker.


*gaydar on overload*


You really are a self-loathing homo.


roflmao, yes, that must be it, Hector the Projector.
  #96 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 01:42 AM
Jay Santos
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Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

. com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:


*another blip
Another substance-free post by the pathetic little

fudgepacker.

Ah,
Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little

fudgepacker.

*gaydar on overload*


You really are a self-loathing homo.


roflmao, yes, that must be it


Yes, it must. Why else would you keep calling others homos as a form
of insulting them?

  #97 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 02:21 AM
Ron
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In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

. com,
"Jay Santos" wrote:


*another blip
Another substance-free post by the pathetic little

fudgepacker.

Ah,
Ah, another substance free post from the snarky little

fudgepacker.

*gaydar on overload*

You really are a self-loathing homo.


roflmao, yes, that must be it


Yes, it must. Why else would you keep calling others homos as a form
of insulting them?


Yes, hector. Who have I referred to as "homo"?
  #98 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 02:25 AM
Rudy Canoza
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Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"


wrote:

"Ron" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dutch"


wrote:


And how this is related to the moral code, or principle of "the

Golden
Rule"?


Why? Should there be a relationship?


NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not immoral.


If the production of every tomato leads some result you consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed immoral, and
your claim is wrong.


More specifically, moral codes and social mores are
determined by such things as geographic locations of the

humans making
the determination.

You're just grasping at straws, as usual.


Indeed.


Indeed - just grasping at straws.

  #99 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 02:40 AM
Ron
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In article . com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"


wrote:

"Ron" wrote in message
...
In article , "Dutch"


wrote:


And how this is related to the moral code, or principle of "the

Golden
Rule"?

Why? Should there be a relationship?


NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not immoral.


If the production of every tomato leads some result you consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed immoral, and
your claim is wrong.


The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.

Buying tomatoes is not immoral. Satisfying my hunger is not immoral. One
of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.

More specifically, moral codes and social mores are
determined by such things as geographic locations of the

humans making
the determination.

You're just grasping at straws, as usual.


Indeed.


Indeed - just grasping at straws.

  #100 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 03:01 AM
Rudy Canoza
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Ron wrote:
In article . com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

homo Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"


wrote:


Why? Should there be a relationship?

NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not immoral.


If the production of every tomato leads some result you consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed immoral,

and
your claim is wrong.


The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.


It did more than that.


Buying tomatoes is not immoral.


It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you acquire some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.


Probably ONLY one.


More specifically, moral codes and social mores are
determined by such things as geographic locations of the

humans making
the determination.

You're just grasping at straws, as usual.

Indeed.


Indeed - just grasping at straws.


  #101 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 03:05 AM
Ron
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In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article . com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

homo Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:


Why? Should there be a relationship?

NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not immoral.

If the production of every tomato leads some result you consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed immoral,

and
your claim is wrong.


The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.


It did more than that.


No, that was pretty much the extent of what "I" did.

Buying tomatoes is not immoral.


It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you acquire some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.


Probably ONLY one.


My apologies. I intended to write, one of the recipes that I enjoy that
uses tomatoes....

More specifically, moral codes and social mores are
determined by such things as geographic locations of the
humans making
the determination.

You're just grasping at straws, as usual.

Indeed.

Indeed - just grasping at straws.

  #102 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 03:28 AM
Rudy Canoza
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Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

. com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

homo Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:


Why? Should there be a relationship?

NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not

immoral.

If the production of every tomato leads some result you

consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed

immoral,
and your claim is wrong.

The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my

occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.


It did more than that.


No, that was pretty much the extent of what "I" did.


That is NOT, however, the extent of your responsibility.

You keep confusing actions with results. You're a very confused
person.


Buying tomatoes is not immoral.


It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an

immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you acquire

some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.


Probably ONLY one.


My apologies. I intended to write, one of the recipes that I enjoy

that
uses tomatoes....


It doesn't matter: you STILL have only one such. All the rest are
immoral.

  #103 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 03:56 AM
Ron
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In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

. com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

homo Ron wrote:
In article , "Dutch"

wrote:


Why? Should there be a relationship?

NO. I've claimed that my choice to buy tomatoes is not

immoral.

If the production of every tomato leads some result you

consider
immoral, then yes, your choice to buy tomatoes is indeed

immoral,
and your claim is wrong.

The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my

occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.

It did more than that.


No, that was pretty much the extent of what "I" did.


That is NOT, however, the extent of your responsibility.

You keep confusing actions with results. You're a very confused
person.


Buying tomatoes is not immoral.

It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an

immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you acquire

some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.

Probably ONLY one.


My apologies. I intended to write, one of the recipes that I enjoy

that
uses tomatoes....


It doesn't matter: you STILL have only one such. All the rest are
immoral.


I think I was quite clear when I was discussing this with Dutch. My
action were to walk to the grocery store. My actions were to select
tomatoes and then walk to the cashier. My actions were to hand over
money, wait for change and then walk home again.

The outcomes were to satisfy my hunger. The outcomes where that I was
able to prepare my meal. The outcome was that a $20 was replaced by
smaller notes and coins. Those were the outcomes of my actions.
  #104 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 04:00 AM
Rudy Canoza
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Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

.com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:


The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my

occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.

It did more than that.

No, that was pretty much the extent of what "I" did.


That is NOT, however, the extent of your responsibility.

You keep confusing actions with results. You're a very confused
person.


You're very badly confused.



Buying tomatoes is not immoral.

It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an

immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you

acquire some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.

Probably ONLY one.

My apologies. I intended to write, one of the recipes that I

enjoy
that uses tomatoes....


It doesn't matter: you STILL have only one such. All the rest are
immoral.


I think I was quite clear when I was discussing this with Dutch.


No, you are always deliberately opaque. It's the essence of your
****witted game.

You DO acquire moral responsibility for the outcome. Note,
fudgepacker: that is NOT the same as saying you are responsible for
someone else's *actions*. Stop confusing the actions with the results
of the actions. I have been trying to help you for weeks to see the
distinction. Either you are stupid, or you're deliberately being an
asshole.

  #105 (permalink)  
Old 15-01-2005, 04:29 AM
Ron
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In article om,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article .com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:

Ron wrote:
In article

.com,
"Rudy Canoza" wrote:


The choice to buy my tomatoes satisfied my hunger and my

occasional
desire for a particular meal that utilizes tomatoes.

It did more than that.

No, that was pretty much the extent of what "I" did.

That is NOT, however, the extent of your responsibility.

You keep confusing actions with results. You're a very confused
person.


You're very badly confused.



Buying tomatoes is not immoral.

It may well be immoral, if the production of tomatoes yields an

immoral
result. By participating in the market for tomaotes, you

acquire some
responsibility for whatever that immoral result is.

One of the recipes that I enjoy and prepare is not immoral.

Probably ONLY one.

My apologies. I intended to write, one of the recipes that I

enjoy
that uses tomatoes....

It doesn't matter: you STILL have only one such. All the rest are
immoral.


I think I was quite clear when I was discussing this with Dutch.


No, you are always deliberately opaque. It's the essence of your
****witted game.

You DO acquire moral responsibility for the outcome. Note,
fudgepacker: that is NOT the same as saying you are responsible for
someone else's *actions*. Stop confusing the actions with the results
of the actions. I have been trying to help you for weeks to see the
distinction. Either you are stupid, or you're deliberately being an
asshole.


Weeks?

I only began speaking with the person using the name "Rudy" recently.

My actions are clear. I walked to the store, selected tomatoes, paid for
them and walked home. What was the outcome of MY action?
 




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