Beach Runner wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

I used thunderbird to read usent. It has an "ignore thread" option that
will ignore anything written by a particular person and all replies.

I only needed to put one person's email address to eliminate about 85%
of the garbage content. Another 2-3 email addesses to elimnate 99% of
the garbage.



Steve
http://www.geocities.com/beforewisdom/

Be a healthy Vegan or Vegetarian
http://geocities.com/beforewisdom/Veg/healthyVeg.html

"The great American thought trap: It is not real unless it can be seen
on television or bought in a shopping mall"

rick etter wrote:

"Beach Runner" wrote in message
m...
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.
==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions. This includes
disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other misfortune in
health and well-being?

This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very mentally
disturbed.

"Bob C" wrote in message
...


rick etter wrote:

"Beach Runner" wrote in message
m...
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly
inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.
==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean nothing
to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red
goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions. This
includes
disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.
==================
Strange, I've never used any obscenities in my posts. Wonder why you have
to? Nothing to add to the discussion. Come on, be a hero, beachbum can't
defend a vegan diet in terms of no/fewer/least animal deaths, maybe you'll
be the one to finally do it. Give it a try. And, if you don't feel you can
defend vegaism, then just refute what I post about some meat-included diets
being better than some vegan diets.

wowfabgroovy wrote:

Beach Runner went:


This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.


the time for that would've been when they first moved in. from what i
can see you've already let them take over. the only non-troll threads
in here are ones started by people who've just wandered in. and it's
not long before those get turned into troll threads as well. casual
readers won't bother staying here for long.

Well, they are clearly strange folks that gets there jollies destroying a vegan forum

wowfabgroovy wrote:

Beach Runner went:


This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.


the time for that would've been when they first moved in. from what i
can see you've already let them take over. the only non-troll threads
in here are ones started by people who've just wandered in. and it's
not long before those get turned into troll threads as well. casual
readers won't bother staying here for long.

Well, they are clearly strange folks that gets there jollies destroying a vegan forum

usual suspect wrote:

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other misfortune in
health and well-being?

This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very mentally
disturbed.

That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate. We are people in general who love
nature and
responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.

"Bob C" wrote in message
...


usual suspect wrote:

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly
inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore
the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean
nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red
goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans
who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other
misfortune in
health and well-being?

This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in
a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just
one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where
she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do
like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is
good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's
just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the
planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate
their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base
contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions
to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very
mentally
disturbed.

That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate. We are people in general
who love
nature and
responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.
========================
No, your hand picked sites full of spew and hate say that. There are areas
that cannot support crops without massive inputs from the petro-chemical
industry, but work just fine for raising animals. Why is it that you cannot
defnd your religion without resorting to lys, hate, and delusions? You
prove with each and every post that you are not vegan, and that killing
animals unnecessarily means nothing to you, hypocrite.

"Beach Runner" wrote in message
news


wowfabgroovy wrote:

Beach Runner went:


This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.


the time for that would've been when they first moved in. from what i
can see you've already let them take over. the only non-troll threads
in here are ones started by people who've just wandered in. and it's
not long before those get turned into troll threads as well. casual
readers won't bother staying here for long.

Well, they are clearly strange folks that gets there jollies destroying a
vegan forum
=====================
ROTFLMAO It was detroyed by the lys and hate spewed by vegans, killer.
We're here to help you get a liitle truth out. You can't seem to do it
yourself, killer.

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other misfortune in
health and well-being?


This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very mentally
disturbed.


That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate.

Those are quotes from the vegans and animal rights activists, not the people you
call "trolls." Find me some instances of the opposition to your viewpoints
wishing you unwell, much less that you'd drop dead of a heart attack.

We are people in general who love nature

And nobody else does? What an arrogant son of a bitch you are.

and responsible scientific organization

Name one.

say we can feed more people in a more environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.

They're not very responsible if they say you can do that. You're also apparently
offering the wrong solution to the wrong problem. The problem of world hunger
has nothing to do with lack of resources, but of distribution due to politics
and war. As distribution improves, hunger decreases:

Not only is it true that a hunger free world is totally
attainable, we are, right now in fact, gaining on it and well
on the winning side of achieving it. Today, about 24,000 people
die every day from hunger or hunger-related causes. This is down
from 35,000 ten years ago, and 41,000 twenty years ago.
Three-fourths of the deaths are children under the age of five.
Today 10% of children in developing countries die before the age
of five. This is down from 28% fifty years ago. All of this
despite the increase in world population during this time.
http://www.worldlegacy.org/HungerInfo.htm

Perhaps you should do a little more study to see if the vegan propaganda you've
been using is shared by those working directly on the issues vegans like to
raise to promote veganism. Or do you accept the dogmatic tenets of veganism with
a blind faith and are unopen to challenging your belief system to see if it's true?

wowfabgroovy wrote:
Well, they are clearly strange folks that gets there jollies destroying a vegan forum

i heard they're planning to take over a flower arranging group next.

And just how long have you been experiencing auditory hallucinations?

they just need to toughen themselves up on them there vegans and old
lady knitters first.

Your malnourishment is probably to blame for your utter lack of creativity.

*yawn*

rick etter wrote:

"Bob C" wrote in message
...


usual suspect wrote:

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly
inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore
the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean
nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red
goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans
who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other
misfortune in
health and well-being?

This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in
a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just
one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where
she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do
like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is
good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's
just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the
planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate
their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base
contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions
to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very
mentally
disturbed.

That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate. We are people in general
who love
nature and
responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.
========================
No, your hand picked sites full of spew and hate say that. There are areas
that cannot support crops without massive inputs from the petro-chemical
industry, but work just fine for raising animals. Why is it that you cannot
defnd your religion without resorting to lys, hate, and delusions? You
prove with each and every post that you are not vegan, and that killing
animals unnecessarily means nothing to you, hypocrite.

You have obviously never heard of orgnaic farming, which I promote.

You're also a nasty SOB. YOu can make points to consider, and they would be
considered if you weren't so nasty.

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly
inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore
the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean
nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red
goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans
who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other
misfortune in
health and well-being?


This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in
a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just
one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where
she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do
like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is
good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's
just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the
planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate
their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base
contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions
to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very
mentally
disturbed.

That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate. We are people in general
who love
nature and
responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.

========================
No, your hand picked sites full of spew and hate say that. There are areas
that cannot support crops without massive inputs from the petro-chemical
industry, but work just fine for raising animals. Why is it that you cannot
defnd your religion without resorting to lys, hate, and delusions? You
prove with each and every post that you are not vegan, and that killing
animals unnecessarily means nothing to you, hypocrite.

You have obviously never heard of orgnaic farming, which I promote.

You're gullible, Bob. Organic farming kills animals, including humans:

IF you buy organic food because you think it's free of the
cancer-causing pesticides used on other farms, think again. "Organic"
farmers routinely spray their crops with naturally occurring pesticides
- and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has classified pyrethrum,
a top organic pesticide, as a "likely human carcinogen."

Feeling paranoid yet? Well, in fact, the EPA made that call in secret,
almost two years ago! The revelation about pyrethrum, with other recent
findings, calls into question the superiority of organic farming.

For decades, activists have claimed that organic food is healthier and
kinder to the environment than "chemically farmed" food. Organic
farmers, for example, didn't use synthetic pesticides.

What most people don't realize - and activists try to hide - is that
organic farmers are allowed to use a wide array of natural chemicals as
pest killers. Moreover, these natural poisons pose the same theoretical
(but remote) dangers as the synthetic pesticides so hated by organic
devotees.
http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuse...etails&id=1107

You buy the whole BS about "organics = good" without ever looking to see what
"organic" really means. It does NOT mean free of pesticides, it can mean MORE
pesticides because the synthetic versions are regulated and produce is tested
for its residues. Your organic produce is not tested for residues even though
it's treated even more applications of the "natural" versions of the same
pesticides you worry about:
...[M]any of the widely used synthetic pesticides are based on natural
plant-defense chemicals. Synthetic versions of pyrethrum (known as
pyrethroids) make it possible to protect a crop with one or two sprays
instead of spraying natural pyrethrum five to seven times at higher
volumes.
(same link as above)

Do yourself a favor and research these issues and see if the organic and vegan
activists are telling you the truth or dishing out a bunch of bullshit.

You're also a nasty SOB. YOu can make points to consider, and they would be
considered if you weren't so nasty.

You're the one calling people SOBs and failing to admit that vegans have
demonstrated far more nastiness than their opponents in this group. My two
responses to you have been very substantive and I've dealt fairly and politely
with the issues (hunger, organics) you've raised. Now respond in kind and we can
have a civil discussion, or keep pulling the same stunts and you'll get it back
in kind.

Bob C wrote:
This could be a valuable resource. Certainly, reasonable debates are
always welcomed, but nasty "killer statements" are clearly
inflammatory.
We all need to discuss B12 and issues related to life. Just ignore
the
trolls. they are not interested in discussions.

==============================
TRANSLATION: Don't interfere with my ignorance, the facts mean
nothing to
me, and I love killing animals for entertainment and convenience. Red
goes
well with my eyes.... Typical vegan mind-set....

Not really, we are interested in polite, reasonable discussions.

Bullshit. Does that include discussions from "compassionate" vegans
who've
wished non-vegans and anti-ARAs heart attacks, cancer, and other
misfortune in
health and well-being?


This includes disagreements. Not nasty SOBs.

You hit a very big nerve. Don't overlook the "nasty SOB" vegans and ARAs:

We should plaster Etter's, Dutch's and Ball's homes with PETA
and PCRM flyers so that THEY will have NO square inch to post
THEIR views and discuss topics of interest to THEM.
http://tinyurl.com/5m5ew

I hope you die slowly, and in excruciating pain from cancer or in
a
house fire you worthless tramp for what you have just said. Just
one
animals life is worth 10 of yours. Your wife is better off where
she is,
at least she doesn't have to live with YOU. I bet she would have
committed suicide anyway rather than put up with you. Please do
like her
and choke to death.
http://tinyurl.com/5lndg

I can hardly wait until you get your first heart attack.
I will jump for joy when you suffer and drop dead!
It will be hilarious for the medical staff to laugh at you
and tell you that they don't have to be told by YOU what to do.
http://tinyurl.com/3jalp

Keep on eating that red meat, Dick Etter!
http://tinyurl.com/3vkss

So you are saying I and fellow vegetarians have the legal
right to run an office the way WE want. Well, then, that is
good --
because I encourage medical doctors not to help hunters and
non-vegetarians.
http://tinyurl.com/4j4tm

Want more examples? There are plenty more where those were found. That's
just
from one quick search. Vegans are the least compassionate people on the
planet.
They are misanthropes. They don't care about animals, they just hate
their
fellow man and use their prattle about animals to sugarcoat their base
contempt
for mankind. As you can see from the above, their hate-filled expressions
to
those who oppose them is often malevolent, if not psychotic. That's to be
expected, though, given the fact that vegans and ARAs are often very
mentally
disturbed.

That's so stupid. It's just filled with hate. We are people in general
who love
nature and
responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.

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No, your hand picked sites full of spew and hate say that. There are areas
that cannot support crops without massive inputs from the petro-chemical
industry, but work just fine for raising animals. Why is it that you cannot
defnd your religion without resorting to lys, hate, and delusions? You
prove with each and every post that you are not vegan, and that killing
animals unnecessarily means nothing to you, hypocrite.

You have obviously never heard of orgnaic farming, which I promote.

You're gullible, Bob. Organic farming kills animals, including humans:

IF you buy organic food because you think it's free of the
cancer-causing pesticides used on other farms, think again. "Organic"
farmers routinely spray their crops with naturally occurring pesticides
- and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has classified pyrethrum,
a top organic pesticide, as a "likely human carcinogen."

Feeling paranoid yet? Well, in fact, the EPA made that call in secret,
almost two years ago! The revelation about pyrethrum, with other recent
findings, calls into question the superiority of organic farming.

For decades, activists have claimed that organic food is healthier and
kinder to the environment than "chemically farmed" food. Organic
farmers, for example, didn't use synthetic pesticides.

What most people don't realize - and activists try to hide - is that
organic farmers are allowed to use a wide array of natural chemicals as
pest killers. Moreover, these natural poisons pose the same theoretical
(but remote) dangers as the synthetic pesticides so hated by organic
devotees.
http://www.hudson.org/index.cfm?fuse...etails&id=1107

You buy the whole BS about "organics = good" without ever looking to see what
"organic" really means. It does NOT mean free of pesticides, it can mean MORE
pesticides because the synthetic versions are regulated and produce is tested
for its residues. Your organic produce is not tested for residues even though
it's treated even more applications of the "natural" versions of the same
pesticides you worry about:
...[M]any of the widely used synthetic pesticides are based on natural
plant-defense chemicals. Synthetic versions of pyrethrum (known as
pyrethroids) make it possible to protect a crop with one or two sprays
instead of spraying natural pyrethrum five to seven times at higher
volumes.
(same link as above)

Do yourself a favor and research these issues and see if the organic and vegan
activists are telling you the truth or dishing out a bunch of bullshit.

You're also a nasty SOB. YOu can make points to consider, and they would be
considered if you weren't so nasty.

You're the one calling people SOBs and failing to admit that vegans have
demonstrated far more nastiness than their opponents in this group. My two
responses to you have been very substantive and I've dealt fairly and politely
with the issues (hunger, organics) you've raised. Now respond in kind and we can
have a civil discussion, or keep pulling the same stunts and you'll get it back
in kind.

"Bob C" wrote in message
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rick etter wrote:


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responsible scientific organization say we can feed more people in a
more
environmentally
friendly manner with a vegan diet.
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No, your hand picked sites full of spew and hate say that. There are
areas
that cannot support crops without massive inputs from the petro-chemical
industry, but work just fine for raising animals. Why is it that you
cannot
defnd your religion without resorting to lys, hate, and delusions? You
prove with each and every post that you are not vegan, and that killing
animals unnecessarily means nothing to you, hypocrite.

You have obviously never heard of orgnaic farming, which I promote.
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LOL Which means you still promote the unnecessary death and suffering of
animals, killer. Organic does not mean cruelty-free. Organic does not
mean pesticide free. Organic does not mean animal free. Try getting
beyond the rhetoric and myths, hypocrite.



You're also a nasty SOB. YOu can make points to consider, and they would
be
considered if you weren't so nasty.
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They don't have to be, fool. Go back and review many of my posts. When
first time posters get here, and if *they* are reasonable, sane, and really
looking for information, my replies are just that, calm and informative.
Otherwise, fools get what fools deserve. You've already blown your chance
killer. Now, if you would *really* like to try, then start all over without
the ignorance and stupidity. I predict that you can't, because as just
proven by this post, your delusions are already running rampant.