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Eat your soy, boys



 
 
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Old 15-06-2004, 02:02 PM
C. James Strutz
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An article in this morning's Pittsburgh Post Gazette (printed from
Washington Post) touts the benefits of soy for men. The article says
"A growing number of studies suggest that soy has plenty of health
benefits for men -- from lowering cholesterol levels to protecting
against prostate cancer -- and few downsides." Among the downsides are
possible development of female characteristics if you consume
megadoses ( 30 times normal consumption), possible allergic reaction,
and can inhibit protein digestion if eaten raw. In addition to the
prostate benefits, soy can help to improve bone health, lower blood
pressure, lower cholesterol, raise blood triglyceride levels, less
likely to raise blood sugar levels, protect against baldness, and is a
high quality protein for muscle repair.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/04167/331753.stm


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Old 19-06-2004, 03:35 PM
Sonos
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Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280

--
Winning against heart attack and stroke
http://www.sonoscore.com
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Old 20-06-2004, 09:53 PM
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 14:35:35 GMT, "Sonos" wrote:

Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280



I can;t eat soy.
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Old 21-06-2004, 01:49 PM
usual suspect
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Sonos wrote:

Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280


That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult males.
Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich in
phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.

Rat pups, exposed to high doses of the plant estrogen coumestrol
(found in sunflower seeds and oil and alfalfa sprouts) through
their mother's milk, suffered permanent reproductive problems:
female pups when grown did not ovulate, and males had altered
mounting behavior and fewer ejaculations (2).
[Whitten, P., C. Lewis and F. Naftolin. 1993. A Phytoestrogen
diet induces the premature anovulatory syndrome in lactationally
exposed female rats. Biology of Reproduction 49:1117-21.]

Neonatal and immature rats exposed to coumestrol experienced
estrogen-related responses, such as premature estrous cycles.
Coumestrol also interrupted ovarian cycles in adult female rats
(3).
[Barrett, J. 1996. Phytoestrogens: Friends or Foes?
Environmental Health Perspectives 104:478-82.]

Newborn rats exposed to the phytoestrogen genistein (a compound
found in soy products), experienced altered hormone secretions
and the onset of puberty may have been delayed because female
rats were exposed to the compound as fetuses (3).
[Ibid.]

“In males, levels of 17B-estradiol and testosterone were not
affected, but levels of 3a, 17B- androstanediol glucuronide (a
metabolite of dihydrotestosterone) and dehydroepiandrosterone
sulfate were decreased by 13% and 14%, respectively, after 2-4
weeks of daily soya ingestion.”
[Supported by USPHS CA56273, CA65628, CA45181, John Sealy
Memorial Endowment Fund for Biomedical Research, American
Institute for Cancer Research grant 95B119, and NIH NCRR GCRC
grant M01 RR00073]

All above lifted from:
http://www.cheapbodybuildingsuppleme...estrogen.shtml

Additionally, see:
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/185soy.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/satter6.htm

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Old 22-06-2004, 11:16 PM
nemo
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usual suspect wrote in message
...
Sonos wrote:

Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a

thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you

from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the

nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating

serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy

products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the

fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior

at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280


That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult

males.
Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich

in
phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.

Oooh, ducky!

Whine not!

To the tune of the tune:

Moan moan moan went the troll, he,
Then got thrown off the bus.
When his head hit the pavement,
No brain, just a big pile of puss!




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Old 23-06-2004, 03:23 AM
rick etter
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"nemo" wrote in message
...

usual suspect wrote in message
...
Sonos wrote:

Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a

thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell

you
from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the

nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating

serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy

products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the

fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be

superior
at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280


That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult

males.
Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is

rich
in
phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.

Oooh, ducky!

===============
you must be having fun playing with your man-boobs, eh killer?



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Old 23-06-2004, 01:43 PM
usual suspect
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Default Eat your soy, boys

nemo wrote:
Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a

thread
discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell you

from
personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the

nutrition
portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating

serum
glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy

products
such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the

fiber,
or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be superior

at
lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280


That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult

males.
Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is rich

in
phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.


Oooh, ducky!


Is that your best response to the studies you snipped (without noting)?

Whine not!

To the tune of the tune:


I see 36 years of self-imposed dietary imbalance and B12 deficiency has taken
quite a toll on your addled brain, nemo.

snip prattle

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Old 23-06-2004, 01:46 PM
usual suspect
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rick etter wrote:

"nemo" wrote in message
...

usual suspect wrote in message
...

Sonos wrote:


Thanks for this article. I found it interesting and posted it to a


thread

discussing soy and cardiovascular health on our website. I can tell


you

from

personal experience that incorporating the entire soybean into the


nutrition

portfolio is more effective at improving lipid profiles, modulating


serum

glucose, and lowering blood pressure than drinking processed soy


products

such as milk and tofu. These products, for example, are missing the


fiber,

or 'Okara' which has been found in some clinical studies to be


superior

at

lowering LDL than grain fibers. Anyway, thanks again for the post.

http://www.sonoscore.com/index.php?s...st=0&#entry280

That isn't all soy can do, especially in young boys and even in adult


males.

Over-consumption of soy products can lead to feminizing since soy is


rich

in

phyto-estrogens. There are some studies on such effects of soy.


Oooh, ducky!


===============
you must be having fun playing with your man-boobs, eh killer?


It's finally cured him of kerb-crawling.

 




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