I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works. Violating
these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add up very
quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html

"usual suspect" wrote in message
...
I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works.
Violating
these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add up
very
quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html

Don't be a Nark.

-Rubystars

Rubystars wrote:
I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works.

Violating

these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add up

very

quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html


Don't be a Nark.

It's not a matter of being a narc (short for narcotics, a reference to an
officer who works to capture those accused of peddling narcotics) in any form.
Copyright infringement is theft -- and you only take issue because the theft is
more abstract than if Jon Lindsay were, for example, "loaning" other persons'
cars without the permission of those car owners. I would similarly notify a
neighbor or appropriate authorities if I witnessed a theft occurring right
before me; I suspect you would, too. This issue is no different.

Rubystars wrote:
...
Don't be a Nark.

Addendum to what I said above. I just read the Harvard Commons website. Jon
Lindsay posted eight recipes from a book which contains eighty recipes. The
book's page on the HC website has five recipes on it. If Ms Robertson did not
authorize Lindsay to publish her recipes online, he has impacted on 10% of her
book's value to readers of newsgroup and the numerous websites which mirror it,
archive it, or re-publish recipes under the name of the poster rather than the
actual author and copyright holder; even the posting of one recipe without the
copyright owner's permission is a violation of national and international law. I
showed you an example of how Lindsay's infringements go far beyond the realm of
this newsgroup about a month ago. ____ refers to Jon Lindsay.

Authors are entitled to protections under the law, including civil
protections which allow them to sue the pants off those who appropriate
their materials without permission or compensation, or who end up taking
credit for the recipes themselves. In ___'s case, search on his
pseudonym and find out how many recipes have been attributed to him
*personally* even though he noted in posts they came from undocumented
cookbooks.

Here's an example. ___ gets credited for posting it, but it's from
'Japanese Cooking: Contemporary & Traditional' by Miyoko Nishimoto
Schinner:

http://www.vegan-food.net/index.cgi?664
___'s original post: http://snipurl.com/6av6

BTW, I've found a lot of my own recipes posted on various websites. I
was never asked if that was okay, except a couple times by Nikitta (and
those were to be posted in Danish). I accept that anything I post to
usenet isn't subject to copyright laws, and that I shouldn't post it to
usenet if I want to protect something by copyrighting it.
http://www.vegan-food.net/index.cgi?965

In that same post, I pointed out:

It's one thing to share a (one) recipe with someone. It's another to go
through someone's copyrighted cookbook and post half the freaking
recipes online without permission or at the very least giving copyright
notices. The point you make about profit ignores the reason for
copyrights: to protect the economic rights of those who devised or
printed the recipes in the first place. Each time ___ posted recipes, he
was decreasing the economic value of those recipes to the authors of the
books from which he was lifting them.

Lindsay has diminshed the value of Ms Robertson's efforts by 10%. Ms Robertson
has every right to know that this has been done and to determine what efforts,
if any, she will take to protect her interests now and in the future. I intend
to go through the last five years (statute of limitations) of Lindsay's posts to
help other authors protect their interests against this serial violator of
copyrights.

"usual suspect" wrote in message
snip
Lindsay has diminshed the value of Ms Robertson's efforts by 10%. Ms
Robertson
has every right to know that this has been done and to determine what
efforts,
if any, she will take to protect her interests now and in the future. I
intend
to go through the last five years (statute of limitations) of Lindsay's
posts to
help other authors protect their interests against this serial violator of
copyrights.

You must have more free time than I do, and I'm not working right now.

-Rubystars

"usual suspect" wrote in message
...

Don't be a Nark.

It's not a matter of being a narc (short for narcotics, a reference to an
officer who works to capture those accused of peddling narcotics) in any
form.

Off topic I know - but nark is a word. A nark is a person who complains and
spoils other people's enjoyment. Narky means easily annoyed, grumpy - a
person can be described as being narky. It's UK slang.

"usual suspect" wrote in message
...
I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation
of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works.
Violating
these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add
up
very
quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html


While you're at it you better tell them that a suburban housewife in the
mid-west bought the book because Mr. Falafel sampled it in afv. If fact I
buy just about every book Mr. Falafel samples.
Now that Falafel is back, this group can get back on the topic of food.

I have to go to amazon.com now and buy a new book. Bye.
-nancy-

they can find it out themselves without the suspect alarm clock and sue if
it is important to those Boston/Harvard republican types
Let it be
Mr F. is a good guy...
Michael
"usual suspect" wrote in message
...
I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works.
Violating
these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add up
very
quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html

Rubystars wrote:
Lindsay has diminshed the value of Ms Robertson's efforts by 10%. Ms
Robertson
has every right to know that this has been done and to determine what
efforts,
if any, she will take to protect her interests now and in the future. I
intend
to go through the last five years (statute of limitations) of Lindsay's
posts to
help other authors protect their interests against this serial violator of
copyrights.

You must have more free time than I do,

I don't, but it won't take much time to send a quick note to each publisher.

and I'm not working right now.

Are you looking?

Fiona wrote:
Don't be a Nark.

It's not a matter of being a narc (short for narcotics, a reference to an
officer who works to capture those accused of peddling narcotics) in any
form.

Off topic I know - but nark is a word. A nark is a person who complains and
spoils other people's enjoyment. Narky means easily annoyed, grumpy - a
person can be described as being narky. It's UK slang.

So what. Rubystars is Texan, not British.

Momzilla wrote:
I shall contact The Harvard Common Press of Boston, publishers of Robin
Robinson's Vegetarian Chili Cookbook, to notify them of eight violation
of
Robinson's copyright.

Copyright laws protect writers' economic interests in their works.
Violating
these laws is not a minor offense. Statuatory and other damages can add
up
very
quickly.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/ch5.html

While you're at it you better tell them that a suburban housewife in the
mid-west bought the book because Mr. Falafel sampled it in afv.

Sure you did. You can send a copy of your receipts to Harvard Commons and tell
them yourself.

If fact I buy just about every book Mr. Falafel samples.

I bet you buy them all; now it's time to discuss the sale of a bridge. Even if
you were to buy one book, it doesn't diminish his repeated infringement of
copyrights.

Now that Falafel is back, this group can get back on the topic of food.

This group dealt with the issue of food is Lindsay's absence.

I have to go to amazon.com now and buy a new book. Bye.

Suuuuuuuuure you do.

Michael Balarama wrote:
they can find it out themselves

Through telepathy?

without the suspect alarm clock and sue if
it is important to those Boston/Harvard republican types

My guess that Robin Robertson is not a Republican-type since she writes vegan
cookbooks. I just looked at her website (and now have an e-mail address to
contact her directly) and she has links to all kinds of AR groups including FARM
and PeTA. I also doubt her publisher leans to the right in the aggregate.

Let it be

No. I would tell you if I saw someone drive off in your car without permission.
This is the same thing.

Mr F. is a good guy...

He's a serial copyright violator. Copyright holders need to know that he's
diminishing the value of their rights and choose what to do, if anything.

if he gives the author credit-there is no legal liability-
I think the whole thing is hogwash-and putting recipes on the net-big
deal-if Harvard chumps need the dough-tough luck-they should and probably
are honored that all 50 maybe people that read this group can get the
recipe--
I am a guy-I would never very buy a cook book-might find a recipe in the
newspaper or mag..
Leave Mr F alone-he is an avid vegan who is spreading the message-we are a
small family-we need to stick together...forget your differences...big
deal--I am not going to go-but tomarrow Clemens and Prior is tempting...
I live 20 minutes from the stadium..(I have to work)
Michael
"usual suspect" wrote in message
...
Michael Balarama wrote:
they can find it out themselves

Through telepathy?

without the suspect alarm clock and sue if
it is important to those Boston/Harvard republican types

My guess that Robin Robertson is not a Republican-type since she writes
vegan
cookbooks. I just looked at her website (and now have an e-mail address to
contact her directly) and she has links to all kinds of AR groups
including FARM
and PeTA. I also doubt her publisher leans to the right in the aggregate.

Let it be

No. I would tell you if I saw someone drive off in your car without
permission.
This is the same thing.

Mr F. is a good guy...

He's a serial copyright violator. Copyright holders need to know that he's
diminishing the value of their rights and choose what to do, if anything.

Michael Balarama wrote:
if he gives the author credit-there is no legal liability-

Yes, there is. Re-read Ms Robertson's copyright.

I think the whole thing is hogwash-

Is that your trained legal opinion? lol

and putting recipes on the net-big deal-

It's not about putting recipes on the net. I do that. MY OWN. Ms Robertson
published a book. She copyrighted its contents. It is her intellectual property.
She is entitled to copyright protections, and when her rights are violated she
is entitled to recompense under the law.

if Harvard chumps need the dough-tough luck-

It isn't about needing dough. It's about legally protected intellectual property
rights.

they should and probably are honored

As honored as musicians are when you steal their work without proper compensation?

that all 50 maybe people that read this group can get the
recipe--

As I showed Rubystars before, it's not limited to these groups. Other websites
mirror the posts in this group, and Google and other sites archive them.
Additionally, one website collects recipes and gives credit to the poster rather
than the actual author. Here's an example:
Lindsay gets credited for posting it, but it's from
'Japanese Cooking: Contemporary & Traditional' by Miyoko Nishimoto
Schinner:
http://www.vegan-food.net/index.cgi?664
Lindsay's original post: http://snipurl.com/6av6

I am a guy-

What does that have to do with this issue?

I would never very buy a cook book-

Other guys do. C James Strutz buys them.

might find a recipe in the newspaper or mag..

And the author of such a recipe may grant permission to a newspaper or magazine
to reprint a recipe. That's done in compliance with copyright laws, not in
violation of them.

Leave Mr F alone-

I'm going to let authors know of copyright infringements.

he is an avid vegan

So are Robin Robertson and many of the other authors whose copyrights he
repeatedly violates.

who is spreading the message-

What message -- that vegans are above the law?

we are a small family-

All the more reason for him not to violate the copyright laws of others, vegan
or not.

we need to stick together...

No, we need to respect the law and the rights of others.

forget your differences...

It's not about differences. It's about right and wrong. What he does in posting
copyrighted material without permission is wrong.

big deal--

I think you'd think it was a big deal if he were stealing your work of that of
one of your clients. Perhaps you should refresh your memory on copyright law,
counselor, before encouraging someone to violate them.

I am not going to go-but tomarrow Clemens and Prior is tempting...
I live 20 minutes from the stadium..(I have to work)

I live about three hours (give or take with traffic) from the stadium and I have
to work, too. As usual, it's on tv so I can watch from the comfort of my living
room just as I am now (hope Dotel can hold this one).

Michael
"usual suspect" wrote in message
...

Michael Balarama wrote:

they can find it out themselves

Through telepathy?


without the suspect alarm clock and sue if
it is important to those Boston/Harvard republican types

My guess that Robin Robertson is not a Republican-type since she writes

vegan

cookbooks. I just looked at her website (and now have an e-mail address to
contact her directly) and she has links to all kinds of AR groups

including FARM

and PeTA. I also doubt her publisher leans to the right in the aggregate.


Let it be

No. I would tell you if I saw someone drive off in your car without

permission.

This is the same thing.


Mr F. is a good guy...

He's a serial copyright violator. Copyright holders need to know that he's
diminishing the value of their rights and choose what to do, if anything.

"Michael Balarama" wrote in message
...
if he gives the author credit-there is no legal liability-
=================
Really? Even when he has not given credit to the proper person?

You're not really a lawyer, are you?


I think the whole thing is hogwash-and putting recipes on the net-big
deal-if Harvard chumps need the dough-tough luck-they should and probably
are honored that all 50 maybe people that read this group can get the
recipe--
I am a guy-I would never very buy a cook book-might find a recipe in the
newspaper or mag..
Leave Mr F alone-he is an avid vegan who is spreading the message-we are a
small family-we need to stick together..
================
Regardless of the felony commited? We've seen that before when protecting
arsonists, bombers, and other assorted AR terrorists.
Thanks for proving yet again that "the" religion is all that matters, and
laws mean nothing.


..forget your differences...big
deal--I am not going to go-but tomarrow Clemens and Prior is tempting...
I live 20 minutes from the stadium..(I have to work)
Michael
"usual suspect" wrote in message
...
Michael Balarama wrote:
they can find it out themselves

Through telepathy?

without the suspect alarm clock and sue if
it is important to those Boston/Harvard republican types

My guess that Robin Robertson is not a Republican-type since she writes
vegan
cookbooks. I just looked at her website (and now have an e-mail address
to
contact her directly) and she has links to all kinds of AR groups
including FARM
and PeTA. I also doubt her publisher leans to the right in the
aggregate.

Let it be

No. I would tell you if I saw someone drive off in your car without
permission.
This is the same thing.

Mr F. is a good guy...

He's a serial copyright violator. Copyright holders need to know that
he's
diminishing the value of their rights and choose what to do, if
anything.