__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

Reagan was a second-rate Hollywood actor who came to the Presidency when he
was already half-senile.

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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

Ronald Reagan

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with satisfaction the
achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution, which
aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance upon
Government. He felt he had fulfilled his campaign pledge of 1980 to restore "the
great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism."

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John Reagan in
Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then worked his
way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology, played on
the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he became a radio
sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in Hollywood. During
the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.

From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children, Maureen and
Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis, who was
also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald Prescott.

As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in disputes over
the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted from
liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host, becoming a
spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of California by a
margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.

Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and chose as his
running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador George Bush.
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans in
Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral votes to
49 for President Jimmy Carter.

On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was shot by a
would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His grace and wit
during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.

Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to stimulate
economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen national
defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government expenditures,
refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces led to a
large deficit.

A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush win a second
term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory turned away
Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which eliminated many
deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of his
administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of peacetime
prosperity without recession or depression.

In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength." During his
two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to improve
relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader Mikhail
Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate intermediate-range nuclear
missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending American
bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in an
attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free flow of oil
during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave support to
anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal of peace
through strength seemed to be within grasp.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

For more information about President Reagan, please visit
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

"Immortalist" wrote in message
...
Ronald Reagan

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with
satisfaction the
achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution,
which
aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance upon
Government. He felt he had fulfilled his campaign pledge of 1980 to
restore "the
great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism."

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John
Reagan in
Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then worked
his
way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology,
played on
the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he became a
radio
sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in Hollywood.
During
the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.

From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children,
Maureen and
Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis, who
was
also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald
Prescott.

As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in
disputes over
the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted
from
liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host,
becoming a
spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of California
by a
margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.

Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and chose
as his
running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador George
Bush.
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans
in
Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral
votes to
49 for President Jimmy Carter.

On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was shot by
a
would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His grace
and wit
during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.

Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to stimulate
economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen
national
defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government
expenditures,
refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces led
to a
large deficit.

A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush win a
second
term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory turned
away
Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which
eliminated many
deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of
his
administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of
peacetime
prosperity without recession or depression.

In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength."
During his
two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to improve
relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader
Mikhail
Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate intermediate-range
nuclear
missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending
American
bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in
an
attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free flow
of oil
during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave
support to
anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal of
peace
through strength seemed to be within grasp.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

For more information about President Reagan, please visit
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


wrote in message
...
__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
==============
Yeah, I'm sure you would prefer the self-admitted war criminal, kerry, eh
killer?





"Immortalist" wrote in message
...
Ronald Reagan

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with
satisfaction the
achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution,
which
aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance upon
Government. He felt he had fulfilled his campaign pledge of 1980 to
restore "the
great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism."

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John
Reagan in
Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then
worked
his
way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology,
played on
the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he became
a
radio
sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in Hollywood.
During
the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.

From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children,
Maureen and
Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis,
who
was
also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald
Prescott.

As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in
disputes over
the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted
from
liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host,
becoming a
spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of
California
by a
margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.

Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and
chose
as his
running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador
George
Bush.
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of
Americans
in
Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral
votes to
49 for President Jimmy Carter.

On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was shot
by
a
would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His grace
and wit
during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.

Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to
stimulate
economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen
national
defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government
expenditures,
refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces led
to a
large deficit.

A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush win
a
second
term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory
turned
away
Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which
eliminated many
deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end
of
his
administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of
peacetime
prosperity without recession or depression.

In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength."
During his
two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to
improve
relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader
Mikhail
Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate
intermediate-range
nuclear
missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending
American
bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in
an
attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free
flow
of oil
during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave
support to
anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal
of
peace
through strength seemed to be within grasp.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

For more information about President Reagan, please visit
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


wrote in message
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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.


Can you define bad rubbish and show how person is it?

"Immortalist" wrote in message
...
Ronald Reagan

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with
satisfaction the
achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution,
which
aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance upon
Government. He felt he had fulfilled his campaign pledge of 1980 to
restore "the
great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism."

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John
Reagan in
Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then worked
his
way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology,
played on
the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he became a
radio
sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in Hollywood.
During
the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.

From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children,
Maureen and
Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis, who
was
also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald
Prescott.

As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in
disputes over
the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views shifted
from
liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host,
becoming a
spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of California
by a
margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.

Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and chose
as his
running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador George
Bush.
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of Americans
in
Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral
votes to
49 for President Jimmy Carter.

On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was shot by
a
would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His grace
and wit
during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.

Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to stimulate
economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen
national
defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government
expenditures,
refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces led
to a
large deficit.

A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush win a
second
term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory turned
away
Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which
eliminated many
deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the end of
his
administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of
peacetime
prosperity without recession or depression.

In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength."
During his
two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to improve
relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet leader
Mikhail
Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate intermediate-range
nuclear
missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending
American
bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved in
an
attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free flow
of oil
during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave
support to
anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the goal of
peace
through strength seemed to be within grasp.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

For more information about President Reagan, please visit
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


wrote in message
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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 21:08:53 -0700, "Immortalist"
wrote:


"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.


Can you define bad rubbish and show how person is it?


"Trees cause pollution." -- R Reagan, playing presidential.
"Catsup is a vegetable." -- E Butz, Sec of Ag. on reducing school lunches.
"Jesus is coming soon." so why save environment? -- J Watts, Sec of Int.
"Off the shelf operation." -- Casey, DCIA Iran-Contra black ops warrior
"I did it and I'm Glad." -- Ollie North, traitor and thief
"I don't remember. (wink, wink)" -- R Reagan under investigation.
"I was out of the loop." VP GHW Bush. (I know nothing. noth-thing.)

The Reagan administration was the most corrupt in US history.
The most serious crimes, most indictments and convictions.
(Overturned by friendly judges on appeal, due to immunity,
and pardons by GHW Bush on his election. The records
of that admin have been sealed by dubya.)

Even aside from the policy differences that led to treason,
there were embezzlement and crony giveaways to mining,
logging, HUD, etc. The environment was decimated.
The great deficits of the Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle years
have never been paid off, and dubya has done his best to
increase the slide to national bankruptcy.

Under Reagan incentives to business were begun for the
export of american factories and jobs. The MI complex
began the great SDI Starwars defense system boondogle
which dubya revived. Reagan repealed the FCC fairness doctrine
and weakened enforcement of just about all business controls,
particularly monopoly consolidation. Powell junior is carrying
on the FCC tradition of complete media monopoly. Yay.

Reagan Lied to the american people (and congress) about
"arms for hostages" and "negotiating with terrorists" while running
an illegal war (against the will of congress, namely us) in Nicaragua.
He also supported death squads all over central and south america,
El Salvador, Guatemala, Peru (Pinochet), the great murdering
in Argentina, and death squads all over Africa.. He is the hero
of all dictators everywhere.

He aided Sadaam Husein during the Kurd gassing and Iran war
(with Rumsfeld and Cheney). His CIA corrupted the clerics in
Saudi Arabia to militarize wahabbism and spread it all over the
world, particularly in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Osama was
on the CIA payroll to recruit mujahadeen to drive the Soviets
and their allies, the northern alliance, out of Afghanistan.
(We had to reverse this policy after Osama got frisky.)
We knew where the caves were in Afghanistan, because
the CIA virtually built them.

Reagan had the marines take sides in Lebanon,
leading to terrorist bombing of 240 marines there. So we ran
away. But to prove our strength, we sent a huge combined
operation into the tiny island of Grenada to defeat a few dozen
Cubans who were building an airfield. Whatta comedy.
We were tripping all over ourselves there.

Reagan brought mourning to America, and it still continues.
I'd rather think him a fool than to think he knew all the
harm he was doing. During his presidency, especially
the second term (as shown in the debates), he appeared
unable to separate fact from fiction. But he never was a
very clever man, although charming. He was a convincing
actor. Mike Deever, his trainer, said, "We could tell him
to go out and pick up an acorn on TV and he'd do it."
He took direction all his life. His handler R Ailes now heads
Fox TV. They made sure to get Ronny on TV every night,
smiling next to a flag somewhere. Great flaks, but all show.
The Reagan administaration was Evil and Stupid.
And now the chickens are coming home to roost.

Greatest job of concealment in history.


wrote in message
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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

I suppose you're also a Bush fan - the Texas Mass Murderer turned
international genocidist?

"rick etter" wrote in message
link.net...

"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
==============
Yeah, I'm sure you would prefer the self-admitted war criminal, kerry, eh
killer?





"Immortalist" wrote in message
...
Ronald Reagan

At the end of his two terms in office, Ronald Reagan viewed with
satisfaction the
achievements of his innovative program known as the Reagan Revolution,
which
aimed to reinvigorate the American people and reduce their reliance
upon
Government. He felt he had fulfilled his campaign pledge of 1980 to
restore "the
great, confident roar of American progress and growth and optimism."

On February 6, 1911, Ronald Wilson Reagan was born to Nelle and John
Reagan in
Tampico, Illinois. He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then
worked
his
way through Eureka College. There, he studied economics and sociology,
played on
the football team, and acted in school plays. Upon graduation, he
became
a
radio
sports announcer. A screen test in 1937 won him a contract in
Hollywood.
During
the next two decades he appeared in 53 films.

From his first marriage to actress Jane Wyman, he had two children,
Maureen and
Michael. Maureen passed away in 2001. In 1952 he married Nancy Davis,
who
was
also an actress, and they had two children, Patricia Ann and Ronald
Prescott.

As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Reagan became embroiled in
disputes over
the issue of Communism in the film industry; his political views
shifted
from
liberal to conservative. He toured the country as a television host,
becoming a
spokesman for conservatism. In 1966 he was elected Governor of
California
by a
margin of a million votes; he was re-elected in 1970.

Ronald Reagan won the Republican Presidential nomination in 1980 and
chose
as his
running mate former Texas Congressman and United Nations Ambassador
George
Bush.
Voters troubled by inflation and by the year-long confinement of
Americans
in
Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan won 489 electoral
votes to
49 for President Jimmy Carter.

On January 20, 1981, Reagan took office. Only 69 days later he was
shot
by
a
would-be assassin, but quickly recovered and returned to duty. His
grace
and wit
during the dangerous incident caused his popularity to soar.

Dealing skillfully with Congress, Reagan obtained legislation to
stimulate
economic growth, curb inflation, increase employment, and strengthen
national
defense. He embarked upon a course of cutting taxes and Government
expenditures,
refusing to deviate from it when the strengthening of defense forces
led
to a
large deficit.

A renewal of national self-confidence by 1984 helped Reagan and Bush
win
a
second
term with an unprecedented number of electoral votes. Their victory
turned
away
Democratic challengers Walter F. Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro.

In 1986 Reagan obtained an overhaul of the income tax code, which
eliminated many
deductions and exempted millions of people with low incomes. At the
end
of
his
administration, the Nation was enjoying its longest recorded period of
peacetime
prosperity without recession or depression.

In foreign policy, Reagan sought to achieve "peace through strength."
During his
two terms he increased defense spending 35 percent, but sought to
improve
relations with the Soviet Union. In dramatic meetings with Soviet
leader
Mikhail
Gorbachev, he negotiated a treaty that would eliminate
intermediate-range
nuclear
missiles. Reagan declared war against international terrorism, sending
American
bombers against Libya after evidence came out that Libya was involved
in
an
attack on American soldiers in a West Berlin nightclub.

By ordering naval escorts in the Persian Gulf, he maintained the free
flow
of oil
during the Iran-Iraq war. In keeping with the Reagan Doctrine, he gave
support to
anti-Communist insurgencies in Central America, Asia, and Africa.

Overall, the Reagan years saw a restoration of prosperity, and the
goal
of
peace
through strength seemed to be within grasp.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

For more information about President Reagan, please visit
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/rr40.html


wrote in message
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__________________________________________________ _______
From: Jonathan Ball
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals
Subject: OT: A great one nears the end
Message-ID: et
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 18:52:33 GMT

Reagan was a great president. I do not use "great" to
mean he did much with which I agreed, although I did
agree with much of what Reagan did
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
or obvious idiocy?

"Immortalist" wrote in message
...

"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
...
Good riddance to bad rubbish.


Can you define bad rubbish and show how person is it?


Ol' Raygun defined it very well in terms of himself. There is no need to
elaborate.

"Keynes" wrote in message
...

The Reagan administration was the most corrupt in US history.
The most serious crimes, most indictments and convictions.
(Overturned by friendly judges on appeal, due to immunity,
and pardons by GHW Bush on his election. The records
of that admin have been sealed by dubya.)

Even aside from the policy differences that led to treason,
there were embezzlement and crony giveaways to mining,
logging, HUD, etc. The environment was decimated.
The great deficits of the Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle years
have never been paid off, and dubya has done his best to
increase the slide to national bankruptcy.


snipped remainder of tirade

You're going to need this:
http://zapatopi.net/afdb.html

The voices are real, and they're being projected into what's left of your
mind by the CIA.

Another rightie bites the dust plonk!

"Karl Hungus" wrote in message
news:6oFwc.16219$%F2.8428@attbi_s04...

"Keynes" wrote in message
...

The Reagan administration was the most corrupt in US history.
The most serious crimes, most indictments and convictions.
(Overturned by friendly judges on appeal, due to immunity,
and pardons by GHW Bush on his election. The records
of that admin have been sealed by dubya.)

Even aside from the policy differences that led to treason,
there were embezzlement and crony giveaways to mining,
logging, HUD, etc. The environment was decimated.
The great deficits of the Reagan/Bush, Bush/Quayle years
have never been paid off, and dubya has done his best to
increase the slide to national bankruptcy.


snipped remainder of tirade

You're going to need this:
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The voices are real, and they're being projected into what's left of your
mind by the CIA.

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Good riddance to bad rubbish.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=alt.dumpster

Can you define bad rubbish and show how person is it?

Ol' Raygun defined it very well in terms of himself. There is no need to
elaborate.

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http://www.insanereagan.com/theater.shtml
http://www.insanereagan.com/

We've got the kind of President who thinks that arms control means some kind of
deodorant.
- Pat Schroeder, on Ronald Reagan

The mad dog of the Middle East
- Ronald Reagan, on Colonel Gadaffi

Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours,
and recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his.
- Ronald Reagan

The signs of the Vietnam War protestors said "Make Love not War!" It didn't seem
to me that they were capable of either.
- Ronald Reagan

We are especially not going to tolerate these attacks from outlaw states run by
the strangest collection of misfits, Looney Tunes and squalid criminals since the
advent of the Third Reich.
- Ronald Reagan, on the hijacking of a US plane in 1985

I know for a fact that Mr Reagan is not clear about the difference between the
Medici and the Gucci. He knows that Nancy wears one.
- Gore Vidal, on Ronald Reagan

Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize
that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
- Ronald Reagan

A triumph of the embalmers art.
- Gore Vidal, on Ronald Reagan

He has a chance to make somebody move over on Mount Rushmore. He's working for
his place on the coins and the postage stamps.
- Henry Graff, on Ronald Reagan

In a disastrous fire in President Reagan's library both books were destroyed. And
the real tragedy is that he hadn't finished coloring one.
- Jonathan Hunt, on Ronald Reagan

In the heat of a political lifetime, he innocently squirrels away tidbits of
misinformation and then, sometimes years later, casually drops them into his
public discourse, like gumballs in a quiche.
- Lucy Howard, on Ronald Reagan

People say satire is dead. It's not dead; it's alive and living in the White
House. He makes a Macy's Thanksgiving Day float look ridiculous. I think he's
slowly but surely regressing into movies again. In his mind he's looking at
dailies, playing dailies over and over.
- Robin Williams, on Ronald Reagan

I have left orders to be awakened at any time in case of national emergency, even
if I'm in a cabinet meeting.
- Ronald Reagan

Reagan won because he ran against Jimmy Carter, if he'd run unopposed he would
have lost.
- Mort Sahl, on Ronald Reagan

What makes him think a middle-aged actor, who's played with a chimp, could have a
future in politics?
- Ronald Reagan, on Clint Eastwood running for mayor of Carmel

Compared to the Clintons, Reagan is living proof that a Republican with half a
brain is better than a Democrat with two.
- P.J. O'Rourke, on Ronald Reagan

Ronald Reagan couldn't be here tonight, he's posing for the cover of 'Guns and
Ammo'.
- Johnny Carson, on Ronald Reagan

He doesn't die his hair - he's just prematurely orange.
- Gerald Ford, on Ronald Reagan

He doesn't die his hair, he bleaches his face.
- Johnny Carson, on Ronald Reagan

He has a chance to make somebody move over on Mount Rushmore. He's working for
his place on the coins and the postage stamps.
- Henry Graff, on Ronald Reagan

I believe that Ronald Reagan will someday make this country what it once was...
an arctic wilderness.
- Steve Martin, on Ronald Reagan

I think Nancy does most of his talking; you'll notice that she never drinks water
when Ronnie speaks.
- Robin Williams, on Ronald Reagan

I hear Reagan sleeps a lot; I think its good that we have a sleeping President -
the more he sleeps, the safer we are.
- Arlo Guthrie, on Ronald Reagan

The youthful sparkle in his eyes is caused by his contact lenses, which he keeps
highly polished.
- Sheila Graham, on Ronald Reagan

My fellow Americans, I am pleased to tell you I just signed legislation which
outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes.
- Ronald Reagan, said during a radio microphone test, 1984

Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you
disgrace yourself you can always write a book.
- Ronald Reagan

Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and
no sense of responsibility at the other.
- Ronald Reagan

Washington could not tell a lie; Nixon could not tell the truth; Reagan cannot
tell the difference.
- Mort Sahl, on Ronald Reagan

"I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself."

"I have left orders to be awakened at any time in case of national emergency —
even if I'm in a Cabinet meeting."

"Well, I learned a lot....I went down to (Latin America) to find out from them
and (learn) their views. You'd be surprised. They're all individual countries"

"My fellow Americans. I'm pleased to announce that I've signed legislation
outlawing the Soviet Union. We begin bombing in five minutes." –joking during a
mike check before his Saturday radio broadcast

"I don't know. I've never played a governor." –asked by a reporter in 1966 what
kind of governor he would be

"Facts are stupid things." –at the 1988 Republican National Convention,
attempting to quote John Adams, who said, "Facts are stubborn things"

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize
that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."

"Trees cause more pollution than automobiles."

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."

"They say hard work never hurt anybody, but I figure why take the chance."

"There is absolutely no circumstance whatever under which I would accept that
spot. Even if they tied and gagged me, I would find a way to signal by wiggling
my ears." –on possibly being offered the vice presidency in 1968

"You can tell a lot about a fella's character by whether he picks out all of one
color or just grabs a handful." –explaining why he liked to have a jar of jelly
beans on hand for important meetings

"I hope you're all Republicans." -speaking to surgeons as he entered the
operating room following his assassination attempt

"I want you to know that also I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am
not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and
inexperience." -during a 1984 presidential debate with Walter Mondale

"The state of California has no business subsidizing intellectual
curiosity." –responding to student protests on college campuses during his tenure
as California governor

"Approximately 80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released
by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission
standards from man-made sources."

"Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose
yours. And recovery is when Jimmy Carter loses his."

"We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we're going to succeed."

"As a matter of fact, Nancy never had any interest in politics or anything else
when we got married."

"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."

"I'm afraid I can't use a mule. I have several hundred up on Capitol
Hill." –refusing a gift of a mule

"What we have found in this country, and maybe we're more aware of it now, is one
problem that we've had, even in the best of times, and that is the people who are
sleeping on the grates, the homeless who are homeless, you might say, by choice."

"How are you, Mr. Mayor? I'm glad to meet you. How are things in your
city?" –greeting Samual Pierce, his secretary of Housing and Urban Development,
during a White House reception for mayors

"My name is Ronald Reagan. What's yours?" –introducing himself after delivering a
prep school commencement address. The individual responded, "I'm your son, Mike,"
to which Reagan replied, "Oh, I didn't recognize you."

"Politics is just like show business. You have a hell of an opening, you coast
for awhile, you have a hell of a closing."

"What does an actor know about politics?" –criticizing Ed Asner for opposing
American foreign policy

"What makes him think a middle-aged actor, who's played with a chimp, could have
a future in politics?" -on Clint Eastwood's bid to become mayor of Carmel

"How can a president not be an actor?" -when asked "How could an actor become
president?'

http://www.politicaltoons.com/flash/hasta_la_vista.cfm

Keynes wrote:

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 21:08:53 -0700, "Immortalist"
wrote:


"Anonymouse Unbeknownst" wrote in message
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Good riddance to bad rubbish.


Can you define bad rubbish and show how person is it?



"Trees cause pollution." -- R Reagan, playing presidential.

Read it and weep, crybaby:

When Ronald Reagan said trees caused pollution, most
people thought he was up a gum tree. Australian
researchers have now discovered that, in the case of
eucalypts at least, the President was right after all.
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/template.cfm?name=Reaganright

"Catsup is a vegetable." -- E Butz, Sec of Ag. on reducing school lunches.

Butz never said it. You fabricated it.

"Jesus is coming soon." so why save environment? -- J Watts, Sec of Int.

You took Watt out of context. He didn't say what
you're trying to make him appear to have said. You
fabricated it.

The name is Watt, not "Watts". You stupid shitbag.

"Off the shelf operation." -- Casey, DCIA Iran-Contra black ops warrior
"I did it and I'm Glad." -- Ollie North, traitor and thief
"I don't remember. (wink, wink)" -- R Reagan under investigation.
"I was out of the loop." VP GHW Bush. (I know nothing. noth-thing.)

The Reagan administration was the most corrupt in US history.

No, it wasn't. Not even close.

[snip remaining rabidly partisan foam and blah-blah-blah]

You just don't get it. You don't have to *like* what
Reagan did in order to judge him great. I don't like
most of what FDR and LBJ did, but there is no escaping
the fact that those two fundamentally changed the
policy landscape.

Reagan did so at least as much. In the L.A. Times
today (Sunday, 06/06), their political analyst Ronald
Brownstein quotes a Democrat who sums it up succinctly
and correctly:

During the New Deal period ushered in by Roosevelt,
"the burden of proof was on those who tried to argue
that government should not act," said veteran
Democratic strategist Bill Galston. "But in the era
of Reagan, which I think we are still in, the burden
of proof is on those who think the government should
act. And if you bear the burden of proof, you have
the problem."

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I was just about 28 years old for the election of 1980,
and I remember it and the next few years very vividly.
Reagan DID, fundamentally, change the terms of
debate. For 50 years before Reagan, the
government-knows-best statists of the Democratic party
controlled the debate. There were lone dissenters who
argued that government didn't know best and that we
didn't need a nanny state, but the statists
condescendingly dismissed them with arrogant,
patronizing chuckles, and got away with it.

Reagan almost singlehandedly put a stop to that. Very
suddenly, the statists were on the intellectual
defensive, and it showed. Man, did it show! They
simply didn't know how to deal with being outsiders,
after 50 years of unchallenged power. This sudden
dumping explains all the futile vitriol directed toward
Reagan. Reagan didn't actually DO anything that
merited the vitriol, except that he stopped the
statists from doing what they wanted to do.

That's a great accomplishment, whether or not you like it.

As Galston notes, we ARE still in the era of Ronald
Reagan. Presidents Hillary and Bill Clinton learned
that when they got the LIVING SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM
(YEAH!) on their attempt to nationalize health care.
If Reagan hadn't changed the terms of debate, Billary
would have won on health care, and we would today be
waiting 6-9 months for coronary bypass surgery, three
years for a flu shot, and everyone with eyeglasses
would be wearing the Kurt Rambis model with 8-year-old
prescriptions.

You can thank Reagan for the 1996 welfare reform act,
California's 1996 Proposition 209 (outlawed affirmative
action) and 1998 Proposition 227 (outlawed bilingual
education), all truly good and outstanding measures.
Reagan created the framework that allowed those
measures to be conceived and win.

Reagan, both Roosevelts, Wilson and Johnson: those
were the great U.S. presidents of the 20th century.
Nixon came close, but didn't fundamentally change
anything. No one else came close, most especially John
Kennedy; give Kennedy some credit, though, for staring
down the Russians in 1962.

More from Ronald Brownstein's political analysis in
todays L.A. Times:

But Reagan established the foundation for the GOP gains
since then. Both the Republican majority in the House
and Senate, as well as George W. Bush's razor-thin
electoral college majority in 2000, rest on the party's
dominance in the South, an advantage bequeathed to them
largely by Reagan.

Reagan also triggered changes that helped revive the
Democrats. His 49-state victory over Walter F. Mondale
in 1984 inspired the creation of the centrist
Democratic Leadership Council, which spearheaded the
critique of traditional liberalism that led to
Clinton's "New Democratic" message and his presidential
victories in the 1990s.

"It was the 1984 election that I think convinced people
… that the old version of the Democratic Party,
whatever its historical and moral merits, was no longer
a viable majority party," said Galston, who served as
Mondale's issues director in 1984 and later worked in
the Clinton White House.

Much of Clinton's agenda — which sought to balance
opportunity and responsibility and prove that
government activism was compatible with fiscal
restraint — tried to retool liberalism to respond to
Reagan's criticisms of it.

At the same time, Reagan inspired thousands of young
conservatives who have come to dominate every aspect of
the Republican Party, from its elected officials to its
executive-branch appointees and political strategists.
Almost everything about George W. Bush's presidency —
from its focus on tax cuts to its moral certitude —
reflects Reagan's imprint more than that of Bush's
father, George H.W. Bush.

This may be the most telling measure of Reagan's
impact. He shook the political landscape so powerfully
that he became one of the few who profoundly influenced
both major parties, forcing Democrats toward the center
while tilting Republicans toward the right.

Long after he returned to California, Reagan shaped the
choices that his successors could pursue. He does so
even today.

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