Look, if you are ignorant and have no clue why you do what you do then
you are religious in anything you practice, that includes being a
"vegan" or "vegetarian"

If you are just a normal person you will avoid food that is bad for you.
That might mean that drastically cut back on eating meat. Some animal
products are worse than others and some quite good for you. The moral
part about how animals are treated has nothing to do with eating food
and everything to do with morals. Many people eat meat from animals that
were not tortured from birth to death.

All this bickering about definitions is so a typical of A holes that
love to alpha position. They are on the christian groups by the dozens
and most every popular news group.

It is hard to understand how so many people suffer from rectal cranial
inversions and have no clue why the can see out their mouth!

Fools Gold wrote in message
...


Look, if you are ignorant and have no clue why you do what you do then
you can always find your true niche in life by becoming a newsgroup Troll,
can't you?!

Nemo

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:03:59 -0800, Fools Gold wrote:

Look, if you are ignorant and have no clue why you do what you do then
you are religious in anything you practice, that includes being a
"vegan" or "vegetarian"

If you are just a normal person you will avoid food that is bad for you.
That might mean that drastically cut back on eating meat. Some animal
products are worse than others and some quite good for you. The moral
part about how animals are treated has nothing to do with eating food
and everything to do with morals. Many people eat meat from animals that
were not tortured from birth to death.
[...]

· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use
of wood and paper products, and roads and all types of
buildings, and by their own diet just as everyone else does.
What vegans try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following in order to be successful:
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Tires, Surgical sutures, Matches, Soaps, Photographic film,
Cosmetics, Shaving cream, Paints, Candles, Crayon/Chalk,
Toothpaste, Deodorants, Mouthwash, Paper, Upholstery,
Floor waxes, Glass, Water Filters, Rubber, Fertilizer,
Antifreeze

http://www.aif.org/lvstock.htm
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Ceramics, Insecticides, Insulation, Linoleum, Plastic,
Textiles, Blood factors, Collagen, Heparin, Insulin,
Pancreatin, Thrombin, Vasopressin, Vitamin B-12, Asphalt,
auto and jet lubricants, outboard engine oil, high-performance
greases, brake fluid

http://www.teachfree.com/student/wow_that_cow.htm
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contact-lens care products, glues for paper and cardboard
cartons, bookbinding glue, clarification of wines, Hemostats,
sunscreens and sunblocks, dental floss, hairspray, inks, PVC

http://www.discover.com/aug_01/featcow.html
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Explosives, Solvents, Industrial Oils, Industrial Lubricants,
Stearic Acid, Biodegradable Detergents, Herbicides, Syringes,
Gelatin Capsules, Bandage Strips, Combs and Toothbrushes,
Emery Boards and Cloth, Adhesive Tape, Laminated Wood Products,
Plywood and Paneling, Wallpaper and Wallpaper Paste, Cellophane
Wrap and Tape, Adhesive Tape, Abrasives, Bone Charcoal for High
Grade Steel, Steel Ball Bearings

http://www.sheepusa.org/environment/products.shtml
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The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die in it as they do
in any other habitat. They also depend on it for their
lives like the animals in any other habitat. If people
consume animal products from animals they think are
raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for
more such animals in the future.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat. From a grass
raised dairy cow people get thousands of servings of dairy
products. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides,
and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields,
one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve
more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass
raised cattle. Grass raised cattle products contribute to less
wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and decent lives for
cattle. ·

****WIT David Harrison , possum ****er,
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:03:59 -0800, Fools Gold wrote:


Look, if you are ignorant and have no clue why you do what you do then
you are religious in anything you practice, that includes being a
"vegan" or "vegetarian"

If you are just a normal person you will avoid food that is bad for you.
That might mean that drastically cut back on eating meat. Some animal
products are worse than others and some quite good for you. The moral
part about how animals are treated has nothing to do with eating food
and everything to do with morals. Many people eat meat from animals that
were not tortured from birth to death.

[...]

· Vegans contribute

****WIT contributes nothing of any substance at all.