friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

Here's a way to deal with it.

Let's keep track of how many messages are posted by these people -
Jonathan Ball, Rick Etter, and a few others.

Every week, or every month, let's donate a certain amount of money to
PETA based on how many messages they post.

I'll take the first step, by becoming a member of PETA, in honor of all
the wonderful messages they have posted in the past. Anyone care to
join me?

Be assured, I would not have become a member of PETA if it weren't for
these guys and their offensive postings. So thanks guys, for
motivating me to support PETA.

From here on in, I'll keep track of how many messages they post, and if
others want to join me we can figure out a reasonable amount of money to
contribut to PETA, or perhaps the Animal Farm Sanctuary, based on their
postings. Perhaps we can even donate the money in their honor.

Gary Beckwith wrote:

friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

You'll take it, and you'll *like* it.

I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:

friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

You'll take it, and you'll *like* it.

Gary Beckwith wrote:

I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Suit yourself, crybaby. Maybe I can bankrupt you.

Why can't you address the issues, Gary? In the 'Death
means life; "vegan" means stupid' thread, you posted a
big whine about "locally grown organic". I refuted
everything you wrote, Gary, in common-sense terms. You
just whiffed off, Gary. Here, try again:


My conclusion is, your arguments do not make sense.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Most of your articles refer to use of pesticides and herbicides, and
their detrimental affect on animals.


No, that's false. Most of the references are to the
killing of sentient, "subject-of-a-life" animals like
mammals and birds by mechanical means, e.g. discs,
harrows, combines.


That is true.

However, many people eat locally grown organic vegetables. Your
articles and links, your arguments, and your immature name calling, do
not apply to the consumption of locally grown vegetables.


Bullshit. First of all, "organic" farming doesn't have
anything to do with not killing animals. Organic
farmers *still* kill pests deliberately, and other
animals unintentionally. Secondly, "locally grown" has
even LESS to do with it. It's nothing but a warm-fuzzy
bit of narcissistic feel-goodism on the part of people
who brag that that's what they buy.


Additionally, many of the same arguments can be made against the
consumption of meat. Cattle farms also produce toxic waste and runoff
that poisons streams. I personally live on the banks of a small river
that is unsafe to swim in for several months of the year, and it is from
cattle and pig farms.


The difference is, "vegans" are making an explicit
moral claim about themselves based on what they *don't*
eat, and the claim is falsified by the collateral
deaths caused by the production of what they *do* eat.
Omnivores, on the other hand, are not making ANY
moral claim about themselves based on their diet.


If you want to have a logical discussion about this, you must compare
the consumption of locally grown organic vegetables to locally raised
organic meat. That is the only valid comparsion.


No. FIRST, you have to examine the moral claims being
made, and the basis for them. Collateral deaths works
ONLY against "vegans", because they illustrate that the
claim made CANNOT be true given the basis for it.


You could also compare commercial meat to commercial vegetables.

But you can't compare commercial vegetables to local organic beef. It
makes no sense and it is a quite twisted argument.

Really, the only valid point that you have made, which is true, is that
there is a cost even to a vegetarian or vegan diet.


The cost is prohibitive, in terms of what collateral
deaths do to the "vegan" moral claim.


But logically speaking, this is only an argument to go further and
consume locally grown organic vegetables, not to eat meat.


GIVE UP on "locally grown organic", pal. It just
doesn't make any difference, in terms of your moral
claim. Right now, you are deluding yourself; if you
stick with it, you will be lying.

[snip remaining long-winded, pointles wheeze]

you did not address my comments in common sense terms. you swore at me,
called me (and other vegetarians names) and all that stuff that you do
every day. it's a waste of time to read your disrespectful lies. The
only reason I'm not blocking your address from my newsgroup view is so
that I can keep track of your postings and contribute to PETA. You had
your chance. Go back 5 steps in every thread we've interacted in. I've
continuously asked you to stop being disrespectful and you continuously
refuse. You shot yourself in the foot. It doesn't matter if you are
right anymore. People shouldn't have to read your postings because of
your tone and language, if for no other reason. It's over. You can
post all you want. Keep it up! C'mon, why don't you reply now, and
call me a crybaby again. Please do.





Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:

I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Suit yourself, crybaby. Maybe I can bankrupt you.

Why can't you address the issues, Gary? In the 'Death
means life; "vegan" means stupid' thread, you posted a
big whine about "locally grown organic". I refuted
everything you wrote, Gary, in common-sense terms. You
just whiffed off, Gary. Here, try again:


My conclusion is, your arguments do not make sense.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Most of your articles refer to use of pesticides and herbicides, and
their detrimental affect on animals.

No, that's false. Most of the references are to the
killing of sentient, "subject-of-a-life" animals like
mammals and birds by mechanical means, e.g. discs,
harrows, combines.


That is true.

However, many people eat locally grown organic vegetables. Your
articles and links, your arguments, and your immature name calling, do
not apply to the consumption of locally grown vegetables.

Bullshit. First of all, "organic" farming doesn't have
anything to do with not killing animals. Organic
farmers *still* kill pests deliberately, and other
animals unintentionally. Secondly, "locally grown" has
even LESS to do with it. It's nothing but a warm-fuzzy
bit of narcissistic feel-goodism on the part of people
who brag that that's what they buy.


Additionally, many of the same arguments can be made against the
consumption of meat. Cattle farms also produce toxic waste and runoff
that poisons streams. I personally live on the banks of a small river
that is unsafe to swim in for several months of the year, and it is from
cattle and pig farms.

The difference is, "vegans" are making an explicit
moral claim about themselves based on what they *don't*
eat, and the claim is falsified by the collateral
deaths caused by the production of what they *do* eat.
Omnivores, on the other hand, are not making ANY
moral claim about themselves based on their diet.


If you want to have a logical discussion about this, you must compare
the consumption of locally grown organic vegetables to locally raised
organic meat. That is the only valid comparsion.

No. FIRST, you have to examine the moral claims being
made, and the basis for them. Collateral deaths works
ONLY against "vegans", because they illustrate that the
claim made CANNOT be true given the basis for it.


You could also compare commercial meat to commercial vegetables.

But you can't compare commercial vegetables to local organic beef. It
makes no sense and it is a quite twisted argument.

Really, the only valid point that you have made, which is true, is that
there is a cost even to a vegetarian or vegan diet.

The cost is prohibitive, in terms of what collateral
deaths do to the "vegan" moral claim.


But logically speaking, this is only an argument to go further and
consume locally grown organic vegetables, not to eat meat.

GIVE UP on "locally grown organic", pal. It just
doesn't make any difference, in terms of your moral
claim. Right now, you are deluding yourself; if you
stick with it, you will be lying.

[snip remaining long-winded, pointles wheeze]

"Gary Beckwith" wrote in message
...
friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions,
===============
Until you have problems refuting anything they say, right, killer?
Afterall, you don't even know the meaning of the wrod troll, so how could
you even come close to defending your ignorant religion?

offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

Here's a way to deal with it.

Let's keep track of how many messages are posted by these people -
Jonathan Ball, Rick Etter, and a few others.

Every week, or every month, let's donate a certain amount of money to
PETA based on how many messages they post.

I'll take the first step, by becoming a member of PETA, in honor of all
the wonderful messages they have posted in the past. Anyone care to
join me?
======================
For the record, the 'e' in PeTA is lower case in their logo, fool. It's
lower case for a reason. "ethics" have nothing to do with the group. You
do know that they kill more animals than they save once they get their
bloody hands on them, don't you?


Be assured, I would not have become a member of PETA if it weren't for
these guys and their offensive postings. So thanks guys, for
motivating me to support PETA.
=================
That's fine. They are a marginalized group, just like you, that does more
to harm animals than even you care about. Afterall, they are all abiout
scamming rubes like you for your money. Thanks for proving yet again how
ignorant and stupid you are, hypocrite...



From here on in, I'll keep track of how many messages they post, and if
others want to join me we can figure out a reasonable amount of money to
contribut to PETA, or perhaps the Animal Farm Sanctuary, based on their
postings. Perhaps we can even donate the money in their honor.
==================
Be my guest, killer. You'll still kill more animals for your selfishness,
convenience, and entertainment than you will ever save.

"Gary Beckwith" wrote in message
...
you did not address my comments in common sense terms. you swore at me,
called me (and other vegetarians names) and all that stuff that you do
every day. it's a waste of time to read your disrespectful lies. The
only reason I'm not blocking your address from my newsgroup view is so
that I can keep track of your postings and contribute to PETA. You had
your chance. Go back 5 steps in every thread we've interacted in. I've
continuously asked you to stop being disrespectful and you continuously
refuse. You shot yourself in the foot. It doesn't matter if you are
right anymore. People shouldn't have to read your postings because of
your tone and language, if for no other reason. It's over. You can
post all you want. Keep it up! C'mon, why don't you reply now, and
call me a crybaby again. Please do.
======================
Liar. You've never answered anything I've asked either, and I've never
swore at you. You cannot defend your ignorance, that's your only real
problem with us. You realize how stupid you sound, and the hypocrisy behind
all your hand waving, and are so brainwashed into submission by the delusion
of veganism you won't even try to answer.

You can pretend to be enlightened all you want, but you and I, and the rest
of the world, see your ignorance and hypocrisy, killer.







Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:

I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Suit yourself, crybaby. Maybe I can bankrupt you.

Why can't you address the issues, Gary? In the 'Death
means life; "vegan" means stupid' thread, you posted a
big whine about "locally grown organic". I refuted
everything you wrote, Gary, in common-sense terms. You
just whiffed off, Gary. Here, try again:


My conclusion is, your arguments do not make sense.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

Most of your articles refer to use of pesticides and herbicides, and
their detrimental affect on animals.

No, that's false. Most of the references are to the
killing of sentient, "subject-of-a-life" animals like
mammals and birds by mechanical means, e.g. discs,
harrows, combines.


That is true.

However, many people eat locally grown organic vegetables. Your
articles and links, your arguments, and your immature name calling, do
not apply to the consumption of locally grown vegetables.

Bullshit. First of all, "organic" farming doesn't have
anything to do with not killing animals. Organic
farmers *still* kill pests deliberately, and other
animals unintentionally. Secondly, "locally grown" has
even LESS to do with it. It's nothing but a warm-fuzzy
bit of narcissistic feel-goodism on the part of people
who brag that that's what they buy.


Additionally, many of the same arguments can be made against the
consumption of meat. Cattle farms also produce toxic waste and runoff
that poisons streams. I personally live on the banks of a small river
that is unsafe to swim in for several months of the year, and it is
from
cattle and pig farms.

The difference is, "vegans" are making an explicit
moral claim about themselves based on what they *don't*
eat, and the claim is falsified by the collateral
deaths caused by the production of what they *do* eat.
Omnivores, on the other hand, are not making ANY
moral claim about themselves based on their diet.


If you want to have a logical discussion about this, you must compare
the consumption of locally grown organic vegetables to locally raised
organic meat. That is the only valid comparsion.

No. FIRST, you have to examine the moral claims being
made, and the basis for them. Collateral deaths works
ONLY against "vegans", because they illustrate that the
claim made CANNOT be true given the basis for it.


You could also compare commercial meat to commercial vegetables.

But you can't compare commercial vegetables to local organic beef. It
makes no sense and it is a quite twisted argument.

Really, the only valid point that you have made, which is true, is
that
there is a cost even to a vegetarian or vegan diet.

The cost is prohibitive, in terms of what collateral
deaths do to the "vegan" moral claim.


But logically speaking, this is only an argument to go further and
consume locally grown organic vegetables, not to eat meat.

GIVE UP on "locally grown organic", pal. It just
doesn't make any difference, in terms of your moral
claim. Right now, you are deluding yourself; if you
stick with it, you will be lying.

[snip remaining long-winded, pointles wheeze]

Are you sure you're going to be able to afford this???
I'd be broke in 2 days time.


On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:49:21 -0500, Gary Beckwith
wrote:

I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:

friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

You'll take it, and you'll *like* it.

Gary Beckwith wrote:

you did not address my comments in common sense terms. you swore at me,

I did address them in common sense terms...THEN I swore
at you.

called me (and other vegetarians names) and all that stuff that you do
every day. it's a waste of time to read your disrespectful lies.

Not a single lie, pal. Here's just one example of
something you said that I addressed, and you WHIFFED
OFF. You whiffed off, pal; you simply couldn't address
it, so you whined and cried and ran away.

However, many people eat locally grown organic
vegetables. Your
articles and links, your arguments, and your
immature name calling, do
not apply to the consumption of locally grown
vegetables.



Bullshit. First of all, "organic" farming doesn't
have anything to do with not killing animals.
Organic farmers *still* kill pests deliberately, and
other animals unintentionally. Secondly, "locally
grown" has even LESS to do with it. It's nothing
but a warm-fuzzy bit of narcissistic feel-goodism on
the part of people who brag that that's what they buy.


What's the matter, Gary? I showed EXACTLY how your
claim about "buying locally grown organic" is meaningless.

The only reason I'm not blocking your address from my newsgroup view is so
that I can keep track of your postings and contribute to PETA.

I don't give a flying **** if you give money to PeTA or
not, crybaby.

You had
your chance. Go back 5 steps in every thread we've interacted in. I've
continuously asked you to stop being disrespectful and you continuously
refuse.

I don't respect you. Anyone who can cling to stupid,
principle-free "vegan" beliefs, and who donates to a
terrorist-supporting organization like PeTA, merits
only contempt.

You shot yourself in the foot. It doesn't matter if you are
right anymore. People shouldn't have to read your postings because of
your tone and language, if for no other reason.

People SHOULD have to read my postings, crybaby. It's
good for them.

Why don't you go all out and give PeTA $1000? How
about if I call you crybaby COCKSUCKER? Will that get
you to open the checkbook a little wider?

Girl Beckwith wrote:
friends,

Those aren't your friends, just fellow travelers.

I have no problem with people stating their opinions,

Yes, you do.

offering information, etc.

Respond to points then, rather than casting aspersions about the
character of others.

But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive.

And what's your response? You encourage others to join a terrorist
organization.

I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc.

Then grow a pair.

I don't deserve it

Yes, you do.

and either do other people who read this group.

Some do, some don't. The ones who sanctimoniously judge others on the
basis of diet certainly do.

Here's a way to deal with it.

Haha. That's not addressing the issues, that's evading them.

Let's keep track of how many messages are posted by these people -
Jonathan Ball, Rick Etter, and a few others.

Must have a lot of time on your sweaty little hands.

Every week, or every month, let's donate a certain amount of money to
PETA based on how many messages they post.

Do you earn enough money to support ecoterrorism?

I'll take the first step, by becoming a member of PETA, in honor of all
the wonderful messages they have posted in the past. Anyone care to
join me?

No. PETA is a terrorist front organization.

-----
From:
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/activ....cfm?ORG_ID=21

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals provides aid and comfort for
the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) and the Animal Liberation Front (ALF).
The two groups are responsible for more than 600 crimes since 1996,
causing (by a very conservative FBI estimate) more than $43 million in
damage. ALF's "press office" brags that in 2002, the two groups
committed "100 illegal direct actions" -- like blowing up SUVs,
destroying the brakes on seafood delivery trucks, and planting firebombs
in restaurants.

The FBI calls ALF and ELF the nation's "most serious domestic terrorism
threat." Bruce Friedrich, PETA's "vegan campaign director" and
third-in-command, didn't seem to care when he addressed the Animal
Rights 2001 convention in Virginia, telling a crowd of over 1,000
activists that "blowing stuff up and smashing windows" is "a great way
to bring about animal liberation."

"It would be great," he added, "if all the fast-food outlets,
slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded
tomorrow."

PETA's connections to ALF and ELF are indisputable. "We did it, we did
it. We gave $1,500 to the ELF for a specific program," PETA's Lisa Lange
admitted on the Fox News Channel. PETA has offered no fewer than eight
different explanations of what the "specific program" was, but law
enforcement leaders have noted that since the Earth Liberation Front is
a criminal enterprise, it has absolutely no legal "programs" of any kind.

PETA also has given $2,000 to David Wilson, then a national ALF
"spokesperson." The group paid $27,000 for the legal defense of Roger
Troen, who was arrested for taking part in an October 1986 burglary and
arson at the University of Oregon. It gave $7,500 to Fran Stephanie
Trutt, who tried to murder the president of a medical laboratory. It
gave $5,000 to Josh Harper, who attacked Native Americans on a whale
hunt by throwing smoke bombs, shooting flares, and spraying their faces
with chemical fire extinguishers. All of these monies were paid out of
tax-exempt funds, the same pot of money constantly enlarged by donations
from an unsuspecting general public.

Most ominously, PETA president Ingrid Newkirk was involved in the
multi-million-dollar arson at Michigan State University that resulted in
a 57-month prison term for Animal Liberation Front bomber Rodney
Coronado. At Coronado's sentencing hearing, U.S. Attorney Michael
Dettmer said that PETA's Ingrid Newkirk arranged ahead of time to have
Coronado send her a pair of FedEx packages from Michigan -- one on the
day before he burned the lab down, and the other shortly afterward.

The first FedEx, according to the Sentencing Memorandum, was delivered
to a woman named Maria Blanton, "a longtime PETA member who had agreed
to accept the first Federal Express package from Coronado after being
asked to do so by Ingrid Newkirk." The FBI intercepted the second
package, which had been sent to the same address. It contained documents
that Coronado stole before lighting his firebombs, as well as "a
videotape of the perpetrator of the MSU crime, disguised in a ski mask."
Since Coronado was convicted of the arson, we now know that he himself
was that masked man. "Significantly," wrote U.S. Attorney Dettmer,
"Newkirk had arranged to have the package[s] delivered to her days
before the MSU arson occurred." (emphasis in the original)

A search warrant executed at Blanton's home turned up evidence that
PETA's other co-founder, Alex Pacheco, had also been planning burglaries
and break-ins along with Rodney Coronado. The feds seized "surveillance
logs; code names for Coronado, Pacheco, and others; burglary tools;
two-way radios; night vision goggles; [and] phony identification for
Coronado and Pacheco."

Shortly after Coronado's arrest, PETA gave $45,200 to his "support
committee" and "loaned" $25,000 to his father (the loan was never repaid
and PETA hasn't complained). Now free from jail, with an expired parole,
and with the benefit of an expired Statute of Limitations on his many
earlier arsons (to which he readily confesses in his standard stump
speech), Coronado stood before a crowd of hundreds of young people at
American University in January 2003 and demonstrated how to turn a milk
jug into a bomb. A few days later, ALF criminals tried to burn down a
McDonald's restaurant in Chico, California, using a firebomb that
matched Coronado's recipe.

The following month, Ingrid Newkirk told ABC News that Rodney Coronado
is "a fine young man."

Newkirk wrote a book called Free the Animals! The Untold Story of the
U.S. Animal Liberation Front and Its Founder, ‘Valerie.' In it she
writes: "The ALF has, over the years, trusted People for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals (PETA) to receive copies of the evidence of
wrongdoing … I have also become somewhat used to jumping on a plane with
copies of freshly purloined documents and hurriedly calling news
conferences to discuss the ALF's findings." Indeed, PETA has held such
press conferences just hours after ALF arsons and other break-ins.

PETA has published a leaflet called "Animal Liberation Front: the Army
of the Kind." In another pamphlet, "Activism and the Law," PETA openly
offers advice on "burning a laboratory building."

"I will be the last person to condemn ALF," says Newkirk. And in another
interview: "I find it small wonder that the laboratories aren't all
burning to the ground. If I had more guts, I'd light a match." In ALF's
publication Bite Back (yes, this terrorist group has a newsletter),
Newkirk has said: "You can't have all politeness and patience, all
potlucks and epistles … Some people will never budge unless [they are]
pushed to budge."

Perhaps Newkirk's most telling comment, though, came in a 2002 U.S. News
& World Report feature. "Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective,"
she admitted. "We ask nicely for years and get nothing. Someone makes a
threat, and it works."
-----

See also:
http://www.activistcash.com/index.cfm?bio_id=1460

Be assured, I would not have become a member of PETA if it weren't for
these guys and their offensive postings. So thanks guys, for
motivating me to support PETA.

Don't blame anyone else for your personal propensity to support
terrorists. That is your own flaw.

From here on in, I'll keep track of how many messages they post, and if
others want to join me we can figure out a reasonable amount of money to
contribut to PETA, or perhaps the Animal Farm Sanctuary, based on their
postings. Perhaps we can even donate the money in their honor.

A petition to have PETA's tax-exempt status revoked collected over
10,000 signatures in its first week. That's with relatively little press
about it. The IRS is already investigating PETA. So, too, are law
enforcement agencies as they investigate ALF/ELF terror incidents.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040126/dcmv001_1.html

Girl Beckwith wrote:
I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Liar.

Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:


friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

You'll take it, and you'll *like* it.

Girl Beckwith wrote:
you did not address my comments in common sense terms.

Yes, he did. Your issue isn't with substance, it's only with style.

you swore at me,

Be a man.

called me (and other vegetarians names) and all that stuff that you do
every day. it's a waste of time to read your disrespectful lies. The
only reason I'm not blocking your address from my newsgroup view is so
that I can keep track of your postings and contribute to PETA.

Liar.

You had
your chance. Go back 5 steps in every thread we've interacted in. I've
continuously asked you to stop being disrespectful and you continuously
refuse. You shot yourself in the foot.

No, he blows your silly ideas out of the water.

It doesn't matter if you are right anymore.

Why? Is it because he's wrong or you don't like the way he tells you?

People shouldn't have to read your postings because of
your tone and language, if for no other reason.

See? You're more concerned about style than substance.

It's over. You can
post all you want. Keep it up!

Take out a second mortgage, lol.

C'mon, why don't you reply now, and
call me a crybaby again. Please do.

Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.
Crybaby.

That's 20x. Now send your terrorists $100.

Gary Beckwith wrote in message ...
friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

Here's a way to deal with it.

Let's keep track of how many messages are posted by these people -
Jonathan Ball, Rick Etter, and a few others.

Every week, or every month, let's donate a certain amount of money to
PETA based on how many messages they post.

I'll take the first step, by becoming a member of PETA, in honor of all
the wonderful messages they have posted in the past. Anyone care to
join me?

Be assured, I would not have become a member of PETA if it weren't for
these guys and their offensive postings. So thanks guys, for
motivating me to support PETA.

From here on in, I'll keep track of how many messages they post, and if
others want to join me we can figure out a reasonable amount of money to
contribut to PETA, or perhaps the Animal Farm Sanctuary, based on their
postings. Perhaps we can even donate the money in their honor.

Hilarious idea!

If you just set up a killfilter in your newsreader you can filter
these trolls out quite easily.

"MrFalafel" wrote
Gary Beckwith wrote

From here on in, I'll keep track of how many messages they post, and if
others want to join me we can figure out a reasonable amount of money to
contribut to PETA, or perhaps the Animal Farm Sanctuary, based on their
postings. Perhaps we can even donate the money in their honor.

Hilarious idea!

Not really, and also fake, like most of what veganism stands for.

If you just set up a killfilter in your newsreader you can filter
these trolls out quite easily.

Ah yes, filter out dissenting voices until all you hear is the pleasant
sound of people agreeing with you...

no, I'm not a liar. At the end of the month I'll post the receipt.
Until then, be assured, your comments are directly responsible for my
contributions to PETA.


usual suspect wrote:

Girl Beckwith wrote:
I just contributed another $5 to PETA. Thanks!

Liar.

Jonathan Ball wrote:

Gary Beckwith wrote:


friends,

I have no problem with people stating their opinions, offering
information, etc. But a handful of people are very rude and seem to
think they can accomplish something by calling people names and being
offensive. I'm tired of being called a girl, asshole, idiot, hypocrite,
etc. I don't deserve it and either do other people who read this group.

You'll take it, and you'll *like* it.