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Old 25-11-2003, 01:08 AM
usual suspect
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WorldsWorst wrote:
You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could show
some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.


Do you expect *him* to respect copyrights? Hahaha...

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Old 25-11-2003, 02:35 AM
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"WorldsWorst" wrote in message
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You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could

show
some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.


He is just spreading the vegan wealth-- just get out your pans and cook and
use you mouth for eating..
Michael

Thank you


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Old 25-11-2003, 03:08 AM
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"WorldsWorst" wrote in message
...
You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could

show
some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.

Thank you

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What? You mean like an 'ethical' vegan?
bwahahahahah



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Old 25-11-2003, 09:32 AM
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"WorldsWorst" wrote in message ...
You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could show
some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.

Thank you


I try to when I can. The problem is a while back I did a whole bunch
of data entry of recipes without marking which recipe came from which
book so now sometimes have a difficult time tracking down which recipe
came from which source. Also, many recipes I publish come from
magazines or my collection of bizarre out of print cookbooks found at
charity shops or used book stores. Some of those do not list the
recipe creators names. For instance, the Marmite recipes I just posted
came from a Marmite recipe book published by the company...

Also, most of the recipes I post I'll simplify or 'internationalise'
or offer ingredient alternatives or change around from my experience
etc. At what point does a recipe stay with the author or become
something new? I guess I could put 'inspired by' or similar credit in
this case.

I also post recipes from non-vegetarian cookbooks. I would hate for
someone to see a cookbook reference posted and have that person
purchase the cookbook only to discover that there is only one or two
vegan recipes in it. If a person asks me for a recipe reference, I can
give out that type of information about the book.

If there is a specific recipe you are curious about then let me know
and I'll try and track down it's source. Posting the recipes is
supposed to inspire conversation and asking for a recipe source is a
good way to establish two-way converstaion about a recipe, is it not?
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Old 25-11-2003, 03:11 PM
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"MrFalafel" wrote in message
om...
| "WorldsWorst" wrote in message
...
| You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
| published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could
show
| some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
| their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.
|
| Thank you
|
|
| I try to when I can. The problem is a while back I did a whole bunch
| of data entry of recipes without marking which recipe came from which
| book so now sometimes have a difficult time tracking down which recipe
| came from which source. Also, many recipes I publish come from
| magazines or my collection of bizarre out of print cookbooks found at
| charity shops or used book stores. Some of those do not list the
| recipe creators names. For instance, the Marmite recipes I just posted
| came from a Marmite recipe book published by the company...
|
| Also, most of the recipes I post I'll simplify or 'internationalise'
| or offer ingredient alternatives or change around from my experience
| etc. At what point does a recipe stay with the author or become
| something new? I guess I could put 'inspired by' or similar credit in
| this case.
|
| I also post recipes from non-vegetarian cookbooks. I would hate for
| someone to see a cookbook reference posted and have that person
| purchase the cookbook only to discover that there is only one or two
| vegan recipes in it. If a person asks me for a recipe reference, I can
| give out that type of information about the book.
|
| If there is a specific recipe you are curious about then let me know
| and I'll try and track down it's source. Posting the recipes is
| supposed to inspire conversation and asking for a recipe source is a
| good way to establish two-way converstaion about a recipe, is it not?

I do pretty much the same as you - scavenge and collect all sorts of recipes
from all kinds of sources. Many of which I modify to my tastes, local
ingredients, or for what I have on hand. I try to cite the original source
if I can, at least how I obtained the recipe, what I did as modifying the
recipe for my own reasons, and also add notes on how it turned out/was
received.

A great reason for trying to include the original source is so others can
look there for themselves. If you present 4 recipes from a collection of
200, there are many other possibilities that others might want to look to as
well, or perhaps would enjoy reading the non-recipe sections to understand
more about the author's cooking approach.

Food is part of a journey that defines us, our culture, and the changes made
along the way. A journal of your experiences and how they were influenced
broadens understanding for others.


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Old 25-11-2003, 05:38 PM
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At least Mr. Falafel does something positive in this group.

-Rubystars


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Old 25-11-2003, 06:32 PM
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Rubystars wrote:
At least Mr. Falafel does something positive in this group.


I don't think repeated copyright violations is a positive thing.

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Old 25-11-2003, 11:48 PM
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You've sometimes stated that recipes you submit are taken from various
published cookbooks. I would like to ask you, therefore, if you could show
some respect towards the authors/creators of these recipes by including
their source, ie, author's name, book name, etc.

Thank you


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Old 27-11-2003, 02:37 AM
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I agree. He is one of the few that stays on topic. I think you can share
recipes without violating copyright.
pete
"Rubystars" wrote in message
igy.com...
At least Mr. Falafel does something positive in this group.

-Rubystars




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Old 30-11-2003, 09:08 AM
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"Rubystars" wrote in message digy.com...
At least Mr. Falafel does something positive in this group.

-Rubystars


Doesn't look like anybody cares where the recipes come from as no one
has asked for a specific recipe's source since this was posted.
Another non-issue, I guess.
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Old 30-11-2003, 09:38 AM
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MEow wrote:
While frolicking around in alt.food.vegan, Steve of
http://groups.google.com said:


Just out of curiosity. rec.food.veg encourages only vegan recipeis to
be posted and it is well moderated ( the content is JUST about
recipes, food etc ). Given that why do you post here?


I don't know why he does it, but am thankful that he does. Don't try
to kidnap him from us, to r.f.v ;0)

Hm, maybe I should pop by in r.f.v and see what it looks like.


If you do, make sure you to rec.food.veg.cooking

rec.food.veg is unmoderated

It used to be like this group, but it seems to be mostly abandoned.

Steve


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Old 30-11-2003, 09:40 AM
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Steve wrote:
Just out of curiosity. rec.food.veg encourages only vegan recipeis to
be posted and it is well moderated ( the content is JUST about
recipes, food etc ). Given that why do you post here?


correction. rec.food.veg.cooking.

They are very well moderated. They encourage posting only vegan
recipies and the content is 99.8% ( .02 % for thank you notes )
about vegetarian cooking only.

Given that Mr. Falafel seems to be exclusively interested in vegan
cooking it would seem like the better fit given the nature of the
content of alt.food.vegan.

Not trying to convince him of anything, just thinking out loud.

Steve


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Old 30-11-2003, 09:56 AM
Steve
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MEow wrote:
While frolicking around in alt.food.vegan, Steve of MYOB said:


If you do, make sure you to rec.food.veg.cooking

rec.food.veg is unmoderated

It used to be like this group, but it seems to be mostly abandoned.


I found out, and wondered why you had called it unmoderated. I've now
changed to rec.food.veg.cooking, which looks a lot better. Thanks :0)


Early Sunday morning typos .

Just for clarification:

rec.food.veg is unmoderated.

rec.food.veg.cooking is strongly moderated. The content is about
recipies and cooking.....period. They strongly encourage posting only
vegan recipies and about 99% of the recipies are vegan.

Steve


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Old 30-11-2003, 11:57 AM
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"MrFalafel" wrote in message
m...
"Rubystars" wrote in message

digy.com...
At least Mr. Falafel does something positive in this group.

-Rubystars


Doesn't look like anybody cares where the recipes come from as no one
has asked for a specific recipe's source since this was posted.
Another non-issue, I guess.

====================
Of course not. Not to the unethical it isn't. As there are no 'ethical'
vegans here on usenet, it works out well for you, doen't it?


 




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