We used to have horses and used the manure to enrich a garden. We
dropped in the seeds, watered regularly and couldn't keep up with a
10x12 little patch! If you can cart some away one or twice a year from
a stable, you may need nothing else. And it only costs time -- and a
truck wash.


Careful...you need to let it sit and age, at least a bit, like a good
merlot (g). Main issue of aging and regularly spading manure before
using it for fertilizer is that horses eat (shock!) hay, grass, etc.
even weeds. These species (as with some wild flora that depend on deer
to do the same thing) have developed seeds that remain viable after
passing through Dobbin's intestines. Some species (I forget which)
depend on it, and their seeds won't germinate UNLESS they have been
softened up by the digestive juices.

So fresh horse manure can introduce a high weed population to your
garden. Hence the bucolic custom of the manure pile.

But still, yes, bravo. Horseshit - it's not just for usenet any more!

Paul

Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:

Zsarnok poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed
.net: at the world.

That's excellent for outdoors!! Yea, nothing works like some horse manure
outside. Problem is... my plants are indoors. No horse shit on them!!
heheh The Knox works great, really. If it has boiled down animal
renderings in it, well, I doubt the plants will mind too much.

Oooohhhh! Yeah, that's a different thing. Course, if you keep a pile
outdoors and compost, it loses the aroma after a year or so. But there
is an ick factor in handling it I suppose.

We used to have horses and used the manure to enrich a garden. We
dropped in the seeds, watered regularly and couldn't keep up with a
10x12 little patch! If you can cart some away one or twice a year from
a stable, you may need nothing else. And it only costs time -- and a
truck wash.

Zsarnok

Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:


Zsarnok poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed
arthlink.net: at the
world.



Gelatin/thickener from red algea. You might be able to get it in bulk

from somewhere. Otherwise it's in health food stores, which is

expensive.


All I use gelatin for is plant food. It makes a plant grow like crazy.
Maybe the red algae would work, but as you say, it's expensive. I'm not
spending a lotta money on plant food.




Zsarnok

Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:



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world.




Why couldn't you use agar?


Cuz I don't know what it is.






Zsarnok

Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:




Maxie P. Diddly poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?V27666C26


snip



Gilroy said San Diego was a vegan who was working on developing a
marshmallow made without gelatin. Gelatin is made by boiling
animal tissue in water.



I'm not a vegan. Just a vegetarian. I use Knox unflavored gelatin
on my plants for an organic fertilizer. Now I see this.
*sigh*
And marshmallows are off the list, too, now.

Paul Hume wrote:

We used to have horses and used the manure to enrich a garden. We
dropped in the seeds, watered regularly and couldn't keep up with a
10x12 little patch! If you can cart some away one or twice a year from
a stable, you may need nothing else. And it only costs time -- and a
truck wash.

Careful...you need to let it sit and age, at least a bit, like a good
merlot (g). Main issue of aging and regularly spading manure before
using it for fertilizer is that horses eat (shock!) hay, grass, etc.
even weeds. These species (as with some wild flora that depend on deer
to do the same thing) have developed seeds that remain viable after
passing through Dobbin's intestines. Some species (I forget which)
depend on it, and their seeds won't germinate UNLESS they have been
softened up by the digestive juices.

So fresh horse manure can introduce a high weed population to your
garden. Hence the bucolic custom of the manure pile.

But still, yes, bravo. Horseshit - it's not just for usenet any more!

Paul

True. We had the horses for quite a while before the garden. So the
pile was a good mix of a bit of fresh on top to already composted dirt
on the bottom. Then we tilled it in. Almost no weeds at all. Which is
good, because you can't get topsoil without having weed seeds in it. Of
course this is Michigan, so even where it is sandy, just spit out the
seed and watch the plant grow.

Zsarnok

Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:

Zsarnok poked his/her head out of his hole and screamed
hlink.net: at the world.



Goddess of Groundhogs wrote:


That's excellent for outdoors!! Yea, nothing works like some horse
manure outside. Problem is... my plants are indoors. No horse shit on
them!! heheh The Knox works great, really. If it has boiled down animal
renderings in it, well, I doubt the plants will mind too much.


Oooohhhh! Yeah, that's a different thing. Course, if you keep a pile
outdoors and compost, it loses the aroma after a year or so. But there
is an ick factor in handling it I suppose.


Getting dirty never bothered me. Honest. I'll jump in and sling manure
with the rest. But! I think my landlord might have a problem with an
aromatic pile of horseshit outside -no matter how cured it is. LOL!!

Big compost makes for distant neighbors ....

Zsarnok