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From: "nemo"
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Subject: what about the plants rights? - Just another troll - rather a clever one though - or at least he thinks he is!
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:14:38 GMT
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nemo wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

nemo wrote:
wrote in message
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wrote:
Hey people.... what about the carrots right to life, liberty and
the
pursuit of happiness.

You eat the apple...not the tree.

A carrot does not have a Central Nervous System and therefore it
cannot
know
anything about rights, or anything at all.

Is that all that is needed to know about rights? A central nervous
system?


There are quite a few people about who do not seem to have a Central
Nervous
System too - except the rights they don't know about or don't want
to
know
about are those of other people which include the right to decide
not to
eat
animals or use animal products.

So, do I have a right to choose to eat meat?

Of course. I never said otherwise.

It seems that my ethics
are questioned every time I mention meat. If I have a right to eat
meat, then I have a right to harvest animals for food. Right? So if I
have the right to kill and eat any animal I want then why the hell are
my ethical values called into question?

But why come onto a Vegan group and promulgate meat?

Because Vegans insist that I am ethically wrong for eating meat. And
they back groups like PETA that do public events to convince my
children that I am wrong and they are right, both in terms of nutrition
and in terms of ethics. And I resent the hell out of that.

It is important for vegans and vegan-wannabees to understand clearly
that there is no ethical question about harvesting animals for food. It
is what we are and what we do.

It is important for vegans and vegan-wannabees to understand that
nutritionally speaking, veganisn is an incomplete diet deficient in
many nutrients. It is not healthier than a diet with meat in it.

These are the facts and to pretend otherwise is only to cause people
nutritional amd health d
damage.

And I am exercising my freedom of speech on a public forum which is
also my right.


The only question I have regarding veganism is the intelligence or
lack
of it in that decision.

Well that makes you a troll then, as does your posting something silly
to
elicit an reaspose in reply to which you take teh opportunity to come
out
with a load of self-righteous clap-trap and false assumptions about the
interloquitor you've attracted simply as a means of provoking him as a
means
of punishinhg him for being Vegan - for 45 years BTW! - so you're a
little
late to try to persuade me to revert now.

So . . . . goodbye!

Not a troll. Think of me as a font of wisdom. You can partake of my
wisdom or ignore it. Your choice. You've been ignoring reality for 45
years, there is nothing stopping you from ignoring my wisdom here for
as long as you wish.

Your choice.


I have a right to eat meat and so do my children without PETA
convincing them otherwise against my wishes.
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you have the right to eat meat? Are you GOD?
And what rights has animals? Shall he think "yes, please kill me"
Empathy is what you missed!
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If this is about rights, then vegans have the right to keep their
idiotic vegan nonsense to themselves.

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Also Vegans have the right in this group to speak.
It's a vegan-title, no?
You can also argue but please tell us a bit smart argues
and not a bunch of hate.
we are good people who has respect for many other good fellas...
have we fight against you maybe, did we hurt you?????
it's only words man not weapons or ... are words weapons?
we only say what we think, our idea's and how we think.
You only came here with negative words and hate and bullshit too.
And you know it!
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Quod erat demonstrandum.

Ab asino lanam

Du bist dem groyster narrisher putz in der gantzer welt!
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hey I'm trying to write a bit in English... it's difficult enough 4 me....
please stop this bullshit ego-smarttalk, you're not the pope!! ;o))

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snip...



I have a right to eat meat and so do my children without PETA
convincing them otherwise against my wishes.
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you have the right to eat meat? Are you GOD?
And what rights has animals? Shall he think "yes, please kill me"
Empathy is what you missed!
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Animals have NO rights. You're killing them unnecessarily here on usenet
proves that even you don't velive they have any.
Afterall, if animals had ANY of the rights you keep spewing about, you
wouldn't be able to live your convenient, consumer
oriented lifestyle, hypocrite.







If this is about rights, then vegans have the right to keep their
idiotic vegan nonsense to themselves.

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Also Vegans have the right in this group to speak.
It's a vegan-title, no?
You can also argue but please tell us a bit smart argues
and not a bunch of hate.
we are good people who has respect for many other good fellas...
have we fight against you maybe, did we hurt you?????
it's only words man not weapons or ... are words weapons?
we only say what we think, our idea's and how we think.
You only came here with negative words and hate and bullshit too.
And you know it!
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Actually, the most hatred is from vegan loons. They are closed-minded,
brainwashed ideologs without a bit of sense
or reality.
All you do is spew your hated about what you think others are doing to
animals, just so you can ignore your own
bloody footprints. Why is that?




Quod erat demonstrandum.

Ab asino lanam

Du bist dem groyster narrisher putz in der gantzer welt!
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hey I'm trying to write a bit in English... it's difficult enough 4 me....
please stop this bullshit ego-smarttalk, you're not the pope!! ;o))

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