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Some surprises in Chinatown



 
 
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Old 20-03-2006, 03:40 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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I can across my first commercial packages of BiLouChun and DaHongPao.
Both comes in the glass jars from the couple of Chinese companies
making hard to find Chinese teas more available and affordable. The
DHP was still expensive at 2oz/$10 and BLC at 5oz/$10 which is
ballpark. I also got my first two commercial packages of TenRen
locally available in Taiwan and not export. One was a TungTing at
$6/150g with tart taste and my first green tea from Taiwan. TenRen
called it "non fermented". It wasn't pouchong. It was reasonable at
$6/200g. The local site is MyTenRen. You'll also see some of their
puer. Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer? I see it availabe
from other Taiwan vendors but I would think it must be imported. I
asked one Chinese owner why she didn't stock more compressed puer. She
said the past year local DimSum restaurants buy her out and charge
outrageous prices to serve. She said everybody gives her phone numbers
to call when she gets some in. I could tell she didn't want another
one.

PS: I came across some more pouchong packaging with the Qing character
previously suggested by Lew. It must be the meaning in Taiwan.

Jim

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Old 21-03-2006, 04:42 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Alex Chaihorsky
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Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I can across my first commercial packages of BiLouChun and DaHongPao.
Both comes in the glass jars from the couple of Chinese companies
making hard to find Chinese teas more available and affordable. The
DHP was still expensive at 2oz/$10 and BLC at 5oz/$10 which is
ballpark. I also got my first two commercial packages of TenRen
locally available in Taiwan and not export. One was a TungTing at
$6/150g with tart taste and my first green tea from Taiwan. TenRen
called it "non fermented". It wasn't pouchong. It was reasonable at
$6/200g. The local site is MyTenRen. You'll also see some of their
puer. Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer? I see it availabe
from other Taiwan vendors but I would think it must be imported. I
asked one Chinese owner why she didn't stock more compressed puer. She
said the past year local DimSum restaurants buy her out and charge
outrageous prices to serve. She said everybody gives her phone numbers
to call when she gets some in. I could tell she didn't want another
one.

PS: I came across some more pouchong packaging with the Qing character
previously suggested by Lew. It must be the meaning in Taiwan.

Jim



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Old 21-03-2006, 02:20 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Sasha you tease. Forget the pics. Tell us where to get some.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
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....I delete me...
Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer?


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Old 21-03-2006, 05:28 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Alex Chaihorsky
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Jim,

One of these - Fou Shou Hei Cha (Buddha hand) I get from a close friend who
is a top importer of Taiwan teas into Russia.
Take a look at this tea at the english version of his site
http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/l14.shtml

You can contact him at the email on the web site and may be he can send you
these cakes directly from Taiwan.
Mentioning my name will assure that you will be treated as a friend

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sasha you tease. Forget the pics. Tell us where to get some.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...

...I delete me...
Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer?




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Old 21-03-2006, 05:48 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Alex Chaihorsky
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Here is the pic, BTW -

http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/pres15.shtml


Sasha.


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Old 21-03-2006, 06:36 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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Thanks Sasha. I've been plowing through the .TW sites that sell Puer.
So far, compressed just from the mainland and nothing from Taiwan. I
do see loose with Taiwan brands which is on Ebay. That Buddha hand
looks yummy.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Jim,

One of these - Fou Shou Hei Cha (Buddha hand) I get from a close friend who
is a top importer of Taiwan teas into Russia.
Take a look at this tea at the english version of his site
http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/l14.shtml

You can contact him at the email on the web site and may be he can send you
these cakes directly from Taiwan.
Mentioning my name will assure that you will be treated as a friend

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sasha you tease. Forget the pics. Tell us where to get some.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...

...I delete me...
Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer?


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Old 21-03-2006, 09:13 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
et...
Here is the pic, BTW -

http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/pres15.shtml


Sasha.



Sasha, sorry to butt in, the teas on that site look interesting to me
though. But it looks like he doesn't sell online just in his Russian shop,
is that right?

Melinda


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Old 22-03-2006, 07:13 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Alex Chaihorsky
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Cowboy, Melinda -

This tea has an interesting feature - I brew it for 20 times and it does not
loose the ability to produce quite dark soup even then. The color is dark
yellow without as much as a hint of red.
Also it stays rolled/crinkled - I mean it never completely unfold into
leaves.

Sergei does not sell here but there is always a possiblity... He may sell
you some tea and put it together with the tea he sends to me once in a
while. Or he may send you the tea directly from Taiwan. he is leaving for
Taiwan tomorrow - so if you send him an email, who knows...

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks Sasha. I've been plowing through the .TW sites that sell Puer.
So far, compressed just from the mainland and nothing from Taiwan. I
do see loose with Taiwan brands which is on Ebay. That Buddha hand
looks yummy.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Jim,

One of these - Fou Shou Hei Cha (Buddha hand) I get from a close friend
who
is a top importer of Taiwan teas into Russia.
Take a look at this tea at the english version of his site
http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/l14.shtml

You can contact him at the email on the web site and may be he can send
you
these cakes directly from Taiwan.
Mentioning my name will assure that you will be treated as a friend

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sasha you tease. Forget the pics. Tell us where to get some.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
...I delete me...
Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer?




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Old 22-03-2006, 01:48 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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Default Some surprises in Chinatown

The two Chinese characters for Buddha Palm also mean Bergamot. I look
around on the .TW sites and see more meanings like Dong Ding Wulong
Buddha Palm and occasional description for Earl Grey. If I read
between the lines on the Russian site the cake is a compressed oolong
and not puer. What you describe is how my one Taiwan aged oolong looks
after several infusions. It just stays 'crinkled'. So I think Buddha
Palm is an term for compressed tea and not flavoring or puer. I need
to do some more digging. The real problem Google doesn't like BIG5 and
Babelfish errors out because some of the characters aren't BIG5 pairs.
I can drill down and covert to Unicode but like looking for a needle in
a haystack. I don't pest people just to handle my special request.
Just knowing Taiwan is producing compressed cakes of something is worth
checking out.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Cowboy, Melinda -

This tea has an interesting feature - I brew it for 20 times and it does not
loose the ability to produce quite dark soup even then. The color is dark
yellow without as much as a hint of red.
Also it stays rolled/crinkled - I mean it never completely unfold into
leaves.

Sergei does not sell here but there is always a possiblity... He may sell
you some tea and put it together with the tea he sends to me once in a
while. Or he may send you the tea directly from Taiwan. he is leaving for
Taiwan tomorrow - so if you send him an email, who knows...

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks Sasha. I've been plowing through the .TW sites that sell Puer.
So far, compressed just from the mainland and nothing from Taiwan. I
do see loose with Taiwan brands which is on Ebay. That Buddha hand
looks yummy.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Jim,

One of these - Fou Shou Hei Cha (Buddha hand) I get from a close friend
who
is a top importer of Taiwan teas into Russia.
Take a look at this tea at the english version of his site
http://www.goodtea.ru/eng/l14.shtml

You can contact him at the email on the web site and may be he can send
you
these cakes directly from Taiwan.
Mentioning my name will assure that you will be treated as a friend

Sasha.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sasha you tease. Forget the pics. Tell us where to get some.

Jim

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Taiwan makes some very high quality green puerhs and also aged oolongs
compressed into bing cha cakes.
I can post some pics if you tell me where.

Sasha.


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
...I delete me...
Does anyone know if Taiwan can make puer?



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Old 22-03-2006, 03:39 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Space Cowboy" writes:

[...]
What you describe is how my one Taiwan aged oolong looks after
several infusions. It just stays 'crinkled'. So I think Buddha
Palm is an term for compressed tea and not flavoring or puer.


No, I don't think so. Fo Shou is widely available as loose leaves.

/Lew
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Old 22-03-2006, 04:24 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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It looks like that. In the middle of this translated page:
http://tinyurl.com/fk9g8
you'll see references to the leaf description (finger citron, Buddha
Palm).
And I use this link:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/...dhas-hand.html
which describes it more in English.
I'd never seen the pinyin term Fo Shou to describe any tea.

Jim

Lewis Perin wrote:
"Space Cowboy" writes:

[...]
What you describe is how my one Taiwan aged oolong looks after
several infusions. It just stays 'crinkled'. So I think Buddha
Palm is an term for compressed tea and not flavoring or puer.


No, I don't think so. Fo Shou is widely available as loose leaves.

/Lew
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Old 22-03-2006, 04:46 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Space Cowboy wrote:
It looks like that. In the middle of this translated page:
http://tinyurl.com/fk9g8
you'll see references to the leaf description (finger citron, Buddha
Palm).
And I use this link:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/...dhas-hand.html
which describes it more in English.
I'd never seen the pinyin term Fo Shou to describe any tea.

Jim


Aha! when I had seen this thread the other day, the Buddha's Hand
(Palm) part caught my attention. Buddha's Hand is a crazy citrus fruit
that is mainly used for decorative purposes, to my knowledge it really
isn't edible. I could see how it could be used to impart a citrus
flavor on tea.

Here's a link from my local paper with some info on it:
http://www.post-gazette.com/food/200...nd1218fnp5.asp

You may already know all of this, I just figured I'd tell what I know
in case it offers any new info.

- Dominic
Drinking: nuttin'

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Old 22-03-2006, 05:33 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Space Cowboy" writes:

It looks like that. In the middle of this translated page:
http://tinyurl.com/fk9g8 you'll see references to the leaf
description (finger citron, Buddha Palm).


Love those sparkles!

And I use this link:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/...dhas-hand.html
which describes it more in English.


That's really interesting, but I doubt that it has anything to do with
the oolong. I've tasted it (not the compressed version Sasha alerted
us to), and it certainly had no bergamot-style flavoring.

I'd never seen the pinyin term Fo Shou to describe any tea.


It's fairly common. Googling for it using the Chinese characters

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%E...s=&safe=images

just yielded 325,000 hits, and Googling for "Fo Shou"

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=te...s=&safe=images

got me 1,180.

/Lew
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Old 22-03-2006, 06:04 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Therea re several types of "Fo Shou" -
a. Fo Shou Gan (Fo Shou Tangerine, lit) - a citron fruit commonly used on
bergamot, but it actually is another fruit, the Citrus wilsonii Tanaka, used
mainly as medicine.
b. Fo Shou Gua - another fruit, known as Sechium edule, used mainly chinese
cooking and medicine.
c. Fo Shou - a large leaf varietal from Fujian province, near Xiamen, used
in the making of Oolong tea, with an unique slightly citrus flavour.
d. Fo Shou - the same varietal from China, imported into Taiwan, grown
mainly in Pinling county of Taiwan, Taidong region and Nantou county, used
in the making of Oolong.

C & D are from the same te varietal, which has 2 strains: the green shoot
Fo Shou and the red shoot Fo Shou. In taste,there is no pronounced
difference. The Fo Shou varietal is also known as the Xian Yuan varietal.

Danny



"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
news
"Space Cowboy" writes:

It looks like that. In the middle of this translated page:
http://tinyurl.com/fk9g8 you'll see references to the leaf
description (finger citron, Buddha Palm).


Love those sparkles!

And I use this link:
http://teamasters.blogspot.com/2006/...dhas-hand.html
which describes it more in English.


That's really interesting, but I doubt that it has anything to do with
the oolong. I've tasted it (not the compressed version Sasha alerted
us to), and it certainly had no bergamot-style flavoring.

I'd never seen the pinyin term Fo Shou to describe any tea.


It's fairly common. Googling for it using the Chinese characters


http://www.google.com/search?as_q=%E...s=&safe=images

just yielded 325,000 hits, and Googling for "Fo Shou"


http://www.google.com/search?as_q=te...s=&safe=images

got me 1,180.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html



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Old 22-03-2006, 06:26 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Dominic T. wrote:

Aha! when I had seen this thread the other day, the Buddha's Hand
(Palm) part caught my attention. Buddha's Hand is a crazy citrus fruit
that is mainly used for decorative purposes, to my knowledge it really
isn't edible. I could see how it could be used to impart a citrus
flavor on tea.


It is edible, indeed! It is all peel, so you can use it for anything that
you use citrus peel for. It makes wonderful marmalade, and extremely good
ice cream. It's citrus but flowery at the same time.

I like to slice it up and put it in tea sometimes.
--scott


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