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Pu'er and losing drunkenness...heh.



 
 
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Old 25-11-2004, 05:32 AM
Mydnight
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Default Pu'er and losing drunkenness...heh.

Some of my tea-friends and I went to the disco and had quite a bit to
drink one night...bai jiu and beer mostly. We were pretty much
intoxicated and then went back to the teashop to drink some pu'er. I
couldn't count the number of standard drinks we each had embibed, but
after about 45 minutes of drinking pu'er things seemed much more
clear. It seems to have had the effect that many of the older men in
the shop told me about: If you drink too much, pu'er can make you
less drunk.

There was another night similar to this with the same result. This
time, though, we went to the rooftop of one of my friend's flat and he
brought out some tea that he said was probably close to 60 years old.
I questioned him on it...but I think he is to be believed since he had
been working in the teashop since he was a small boy and this was part
of his uncle's stash.....we probably ran that tea through 30 pao
(brewings) and it still had a good, strong flavor to it. He gave me
some of it in a small bag the next day! heh.

Anybody else have any experiences such as this? The lessening of
alcohol's effect, i mean.




Mydnight

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thus then i turn me from my countries light, to dwell in the solemn shades of an endless night.
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Old 25-11-2004, 04:52 PM
Cameron Lewis
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I use green pu'erh for the morning after with good effect, but I've
never tried it the night of. I'll give it a shot next time

Cameron

Mydnight wrote in message . ..
Some of my tea-friends and I went to the disco and had quite a bit to
drink one night...bai jiu and beer mostly. We were pretty much
intoxicated and then went back to the teashop to drink some pu'er. I
couldn't count the number of standard drinks we each had embibed, but
after about 45 minutes of drinking pu'er things seemed much more
clear. It seems to have had the effect that many of the older men in
the shop told me about: If you drink too much, pu'er can make you
less drunk.

There was another night similar to this with the same result. This
time, though, we went to the rooftop of one of my friend's flat and he
brought out some tea that he said was probably close to 60 years old.
I questioned him on it...but I think he is to be believed since he had
been working in the teashop since he was a small boy and this was part
of his uncle's stash.....we probably ran that tea through 30 pao
(brewings) and it still had a good, strong flavor to it. He gave me
some of it in a small bag the next day! heh.

Anybody else have any experiences such as this? The lessening of
alcohol's effect, i mean.




Mydnight

--------------------
thus then i turn me from my countries light, to dwell in the solemn shades of an endless night.

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Old 25-11-2004, 04:52 PM
Cameron Lewis
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I use green pu'erh for the morning after with good effect, but I've
never tried it the night of. I'll give it a shot next time

Cameron

Mydnight wrote in message . ..
Some of my tea-friends and I went to the disco and had quite a bit to
drink one night...bai jiu and beer mostly. We were pretty much
intoxicated and then went back to the teashop to drink some pu'er. I
couldn't count the number of standard drinks we each had embibed, but
after about 45 minutes of drinking pu'er things seemed much more
clear. It seems to have had the effect that many of the older men in
the shop told me about: If you drink too much, pu'er can make you
less drunk.

There was another night similar to this with the same result. This
time, though, we went to the rooftop of one of my friend's flat and he
brought out some tea that he said was probably close to 60 years old.
I questioned him on it...but I think he is to be believed since he had
been working in the teashop since he was a small boy and this was part
of his uncle's stash.....we probably ran that tea through 30 pao
(brewings) and it still had a good, strong flavor to it. He gave me
some of it in a small bag the next day! heh.

Anybody else have any experiences such as this? The lessening of
alcohol's effect, i mean.




Mydnight

--------------------
thus then i turn me from my countries light, to dwell in the solemn shades of an endless night.

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Old 25-11-2004, 09:10 PM
dw
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Mydnight wrote:

Some of my tea-friends and I went to the disco and had quite a bit to
drink one night...bai jiu and beer mostly. We were pretty much
intoxicated and then went back to the teashop to drink some pu'er. I
couldn't count the number of standard drinks we each had embibed, but
after about 45 minutes of drinking pu'er things seemed much more
clear. It seems to have had the effect that many of the older men in
the shop told me about: If you drink too much, pu'er can make you
less drunk.



Mydnight

--------------------
thus then i turn me from my countries light, to dwell in the solemn
shades of an endless night.


How much tea did you have? Drinking a lot of water will help reduce the
concentration/level of alcohol in the bloodstream more quickly; you'll
come down more quickly. It will also hydrate you, and make you feel
better the next morning.
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Old 25-11-2004, 10:00 PM
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One major effects of Pu-erh is to relief hangover. Mr. Zhao Xuemin of Qing
dynasty has recorded this in his famous book "Ben Cao Gang Mu Shi Yi".


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Old 25-11-2004, 10:00 PM
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One major effects of Pu-erh is to relief hangover. Mr. Zhao Xuemin of Qing
dynasty has recorded this in his famous book "Ben Cao Gang Mu Shi Yi".


www.teahub.com

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Old 26-11-2004, 03:15 AM
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"dw" wrote:

How much tea did you have? Drinking a lot of water will help reduce the
concentration/level of alcohol in the bloodstream more quickly; you'll
come down more quickly. It will also hydrate you, and make you feel
better the next morning.


Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.


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Randy
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Old 26-11-2004, 03:15 AM
RJP
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"dw" wrote:

How much tea did you have? Drinking a lot of water will help reduce the
concentration/level of alcohol in the bloodstream more quickly; you'll
come down more quickly. It will also hydrate you, and make you feel
better the next morning.


Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.


--
Randy
(if replying by e-mail, remove SPAMFREE and DeLeTe from my address)


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Old 26-11-2004, 03:15 AM
RJP
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"dw" wrote:

How much tea did you have? Drinking a lot of water will help reduce the
concentration/level of alcohol in the bloodstream more quickly; you'll
come down more quickly. It will also hydrate you, and make you feel
better the next morning.


Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.


--
Randy
(if replying by e-mail, remove SPAMFREE and DeLeTe from my address)


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Old 26-11-2004, 04:31 AM
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I tend to agree. My friend was a Navy Corpsman and swore by getting an
IV of saline to cure a hangover. said he'd do it when he was out
drinking the night before a PRT, and he felt great almost immediately
afterward.

Steve

RJP wrote:
Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.

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Old 26-11-2004, 04:31 AM
Steve Hay
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I tend to agree. My friend was a Navy Corpsman and swore by getting an
IV of saline to cure a hangover. said he'd do it when he was out
drinking the night before a PRT, and he felt great almost immediately
afterward.

Steve

RJP wrote:
Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.

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Old 26-11-2004, 04:31 AM
Steve Hay
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I tend to agree. My friend was a Navy Corpsman and swore by getting an
IV of saline to cure a hangover. said he'd do it when he was out
drinking the night before a PRT, and he felt great almost immediately
afterward.

Steve

RJP wrote:
Hydration is, I believe, the key to any and all hangover "cures". I think the
effect of reducing the concentration of alcohol in the bloodstream is very
small. The caffeine in tea may help to make the imbiber feel a bit more alert.
But hydration is the key. You could just as well get that by drinking water
or lemonade or fruit juice. Other claims for hangover cures are, IMHO,
horse hockey.

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Old 26-11-2004, 05:41 PM
Joseph Kubera
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Hmmm, interesting. I know the importance of the hydration part, but had heard
that tea is not so great for hydration as it is a diurectic -- that plain water
is better. Maybe there's something about puerh?

Joe
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Old 26-11-2004, 05:41 PM
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Hmmm, interesting. I know the importance of the hydration part, but had heard
that tea is not so great for hydration as it is a diurectic -- that plain water
is better. Maybe there's something about puerh?

Joe
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Old 26-11-2004, 06:08 PM
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" Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and lose
little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue of the
Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at the Center for
Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different combinations of water,
coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the hydration status of 18 healthy
adults who drink caffeinated beverages routinely.
"We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann
Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to find
out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking normal
amounts of it. It is not."

The same goes for tea, juice, milk and caffeinated sodas: One glass provides
about the same amount of hydrating fluid as a glass of water. The only
common drinks that produce a net loss of fluids are those containing
alcohol - and usually it takes more than one of those to cause noticeable
dehydration, doctors say. "



More at http://www.snopes.com/toxins/water.htm.

"Joseph Kubera" wrote in message
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Hmmm, interesting. I know the importance of the hydration part, but had
heard
that tea is not so great for hydration as it is a diurectic -- that plain
water
is better. Maybe there's something about puerh?

Joe



 




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