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Christopher gy.com11/10/04


http://slowthinking.org/viewtopic.php?t=28

Christopher, not only did I read it all, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed
it. You've done well. Thanks.

Michael

Christopher gy.com11/10/04


http://slowthinking.org/viewtopic.php?t=28

Christopher, not only did I read it all, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed
it. You've done well. Thanks.

Michael

Awesome!
Thanks.

--Tom
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Terrance

"Michael Plant" wrote in message
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Christopher
gy.com11/10/04


http://slowthinking.org/viewtopic.php?t=28

Christopher, not only did I read it all, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed
it. You've done well. Thanks.

Michael

Thanks for the kind words. You both have encouraged me to write some more.
However, it wouldn't do to go endulging in haste.

I need a nice sit down and another cup of tea now.

I live in California. It's really no wonder Americans aren't enthusiastic
about tea. There are wonderful and varied foods to be had here. But what is
alleged to be tea, is the floor sweepings of the plant sold in little paper
bags. These bags are then placed in lukewarm water. It's a very curious
custom.

But thank goodness for online shopping. I discovered 2lb bags of loose
organic black tea. I swear by Black Tea, FOP India from
http://www.choiceorganicteas.com/pr_leaf.htm. It is the nectar of the gods.
It causes the wits sharpen. In a perfect world there would be decaffinated
black Indian tea like this that tastes as good. I would be willing to go to
the ends of the earth to find such a tea - or at least to the corner store.


Christopher
P.S. I am just a customer of Choice Orgainc Teas.

Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

Stereo is for listening not typing.
Doug

Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

Those words are in English, yet I don't understand your sentence.
Try again, please.

"Stereo is for listening not typing.
Doug"

Those words are in English, yet I don't understand your sentence.
Try again, please.

"Stereo is for listening not typing.
Doug"

I sense that there is a strong boom in tea in the US that just started. I
been reading some tea & coffe trade journals and I can se a shift in every
issue from coffe to tea. starbucks beware! the Boston Red Sox curse is
broken the Boston Tea Party Curse is next in line to fall!

I saw this happen in Sweden during the 90'th Sweden is the number two coffe
nation after finland but it was a fantastic increase in tea consumption over
a few yars and good quality lose weight tea became avaiable in many places.
Most Swedes drink tea in the morning and evening and the coffe during the
workday. We allways stopped work at 9am and 2pm for coffe break and the
lunch was allways followed by coffe. No big meeting took place without
placing a coffe order and all employers I know is providing free coffe.

A similar effect is the Atkins secondary effect. I credit Atkins and
followers from making good quality whole grain breads, non cured bacon,
organic eggs, un sweetened yougurt etc commonly aviable starting late last
year and is still ongoing. Even if Atkins was opposing kaffeine during
weight loss he was a strong voice for unprocessed natural foods. Green tea
is a perfect match.

I think people have been woken up by Starbucks et al and it is natural that
a lot of people will transition in to an interest in tea. The variety is
larger and it has a more "dramatic" culture behind it.

I don't think it is a generation issue, it it just a natural progression and
reaction to pollution and messed up food making people sick Tea is a natural
product that is minimally processed and that fit this time just right..

Ulf


"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

I sense that there is a strong boom in tea in the US that just started. I
been reading some tea & coffe trade journals and I can se a shift in every
issue from coffe to tea. starbucks beware! the Boston Red Sox curse is
broken the Boston Tea Party Curse is next in line to fall!

I saw this happen in Sweden during the 90'th Sweden is the number two coffe
nation after finland but it was a fantastic increase in tea consumption over
a few yars and good quality lose weight tea became avaiable in many places.
Most Swedes drink tea in the morning and evening and the coffe during the
workday. We allways stopped work at 9am and 2pm for coffe break and the
lunch was allways followed by coffe. No big meeting took place without
placing a coffe order and all employers I know is providing free coffe.

A similar effect is the Atkins secondary effect. I credit Atkins and
followers from making good quality whole grain breads, non cured bacon,
organic eggs, un sweetened yougurt etc commonly aviable starting late last
year and is still ongoing. Even if Atkins was opposing kaffeine during
weight loss he was a strong voice for unprocessed natural foods. Green tea
is a perfect match.

I think people have been woken up by Starbucks et al and it is natural that
a lot of people will transition in to an interest in tea. The variety is
larger and it has a more "dramatic" culture behind it.

I don't think it is a generation issue, it it just a natural progression and
reaction to pollution and messed up food making people sick Tea is a natural
product that is minimally processed and that fit this time just right..

Ulf


"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

I sense that there is a strong boom in tea in the US that just started. I
been reading some tea & coffee trade journals and I can se a shift in every
issue from coffee to tea. Starbucks beware! the Boston Red Sox curse is
broken the Boston Tea Party Curse is next in line to fall!

I saw this happen in Sweden during the 90'th Sweden is the number two coffee
nation after Finland but it was a fantastic increase in tea consumption over
a few years and good quality lose weight tea became available in many
places.
Most Swedes drink tea in the morning and evening and the coffee during the
workday. We always stopped work at 9am and 2pm for coffee break and the
lunch was always followed by coffee. No big meeting took place without
placing a coffee order and all employers I know is providing free coffee.

A similar effect is the Atkins secondary effect. I credit Atkins and
followers from making good quality whole grain breads, non cured bacon,
organic eggs, un sweetened yogurt etc commonly available starting late last
year and is still ongoing. Even if Atkins was opposing caffeine during
weight loss he was a strong voice for unprocessed natural foods. Green tea
is a perfect match.

I think people have been woken up by Starbucks et al and it is natural that
a lot of people will transition in to an interest in tea. The variety is
larger and it has a more "dramatic" culture behind it.

I don't think it is a generation issue, it just a natural progression and
reaction to pollution and messed up food making people sick Tea is a natural
product that is minimally processed and that fit this time just right..

Ulf


"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

I sense that there is a strong boom in tea in the US that just started. I
been reading some tea & coffee trade journals and I can se a shift in every
issue from coffee to tea. Starbucks beware! the Boston Red Sox curse is
broken the Boston Tea Party Curse is next in line to fall!

I saw this happen in Sweden during the 90'th Sweden is the number two coffee
nation after Finland but it was a fantastic increase in tea consumption over
a few years and good quality lose weight tea became available in many
places.
Most Swedes drink tea in the morning and evening and the coffee during the
workday. We always stopped work at 9am and 2pm for coffee break and the
lunch was always followed by coffee. No big meeting took place without
placing a coffee order and all employers I know is providing free coffee.

A similar effect is the Atkins secondary effect. I credit Atkins and
followers from making good quality whole grain breads, non cured bacon,
organic eggs, un sweetened yogurt etc commonly available starting late last
year and is still ongoing. Even if Atkins was opposing caffeine during
weight loss he was a strong voice for unprocessed natural foods. Green tea
is a perfect match.

I think people have been woken up by Starbucks et al and it is natural that
a lot of people will transition in to an interest in tea. The variety is
larger and it has a more "dramatic" culture behind it.

I don't think it is a generation issue, it just a natural progression and
reaction to pollution and messed up food making people sick Tea is a natural
product that is minimally processed and that fit this time just right..

Ulf


"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'

I sense that there is a strong boom in tea in the US that just started. I
been reading some tea & coffee trade journals and I can se a shift in every
issue from coffee to tea. Starbucks beware! the Boston Red Sox curse is
broken the Boston Tea Party Curse is next in line to fall!

I saw this happen in Sweden during the 90'th Sweden is the number two coffee
nation after Finland but it was a fantastic increase in tea consumption over
a few years and good quality lose weight tea became available in many
places.
Most Swedes drink tea in the morning and evening and the coffee during the
workday. We always stopped work at 9am and 2pm for coffee break and the
lunch was always followed by coffee. No big meeting took place without
placing a coffee order and all employers I know is providing free coffee.

A similar effect is the Atkins secondary effect. I credit Atkins and
followers from making good quality whole grain breads, non cured bacon,
organic eggs, un sweetened yogurt etc commonly available starting late last
year and is still ongoing. Even if Atkins was opposing caffeine during
weight loss he was a strong voice for unprocessed natural foods. Green tea
is a perfect match.

I think people have been woken up by Starbucks et al and it is natural that
a lot of people will transition in to an interest in tea. The variety is
larger and it has a more "dramatic" culture behind it.

I don't think it is a generation issue, it just a natural progression and
reaction to pollution and messed up food making people sick Tea is a natural
product that is minimally processed and that fit this time just right..

Ulf


"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Amen brother! You've captured my thougths precisely.

Wade


"Andrew Robertson" wrote in message
oups.com...
Make no mistake, there are plenty of Americans who enjoy a good cup of
tea. Most of the folks I know over 40 couldn't tell grass clippings
from dragonwell, though.

It's a little odd - the baby boomer generation tend not to care for the
little things in life. With funds from their third mortgage, they zoom
around in their BMW and Mercedes sports cars, always in a rush to do
whatever it is they do all day (reclaiming an overly career-minded
youth?). Why spend 15 minutes brewing tea when Starbucks can serve up
a carmel latte in 3 minutes? A few of them know good wine, but I think
that most of those who do just buy the most expensive stuff because
it's the best. Almost none drink good beer. And the vast majority of
them drink Lipton - or Bigelow if they're well to do. They're the
ultimate culmination of centuries of the protestant work ethic. Work
is good because it's good to work. Other things come second.

My generation (I'm 27) sees things a little differently. Unlike our
parents, we know the companies that are hiring us will almost certainly
drop us like a bad habit as soon as there's somebody in India willing
to do 1/4th of our jobs for 1/4th of the money (No, Indians, I bear you
no ill will). We haven't the sense of commitment or urgency for our
jobs that our parents did - because they are just jobs. The chances of
getting hired right out of college, working for 35 years for a company,
and retiring with full pension are slim these days.

In contrast with our parents, we are skeptical of our politicians and
corporate slave masters, and enjoy good tea. I don't know what this
rant has to do with tea, but ultimately I think that because we rush
less than our parents, we have time for good tea.

I would highly recommend a book called 'The Hacker Ethic' for anyone
having a difficult time understanding Gen X. A summary of it could be
'Baby Boomers live to work - Gen Xers work to live!'