Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that have
this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,

Yep,

Coffee makes me usually feel wide awake. Tea makes me feel calm, relaxed and
awake.

Yep,

Coffee makes me usually feel wide awake. Tea makes me feel calm, relaxed and
awake.

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:

Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough
to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never
drank that tea again. JB

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:

Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough
to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never
drank that tea again. JB

I would not call it sedative, I would call it alert introvertion. Very
alert, actually.
Meaning that you are driven to a state when your self-awareness and
world-awareness are no longer (or less) affected by the fidgeting around
you.
That is how I explain why the name of Guan Yin is used in connection of tea.
Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have
this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,

I would not call it sedative, I would call it alert introvertion. Very
alert, actually.
Meaning that you are driven to a state when your self-awareness and
world-awareness are no longer (or less) affected by the fidgeting around
you.
That is how I explain why the name of Guan Yin is used in connection of tea.
Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have
this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,

[Samar plays the scientist and says...]

I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking the
Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for
processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals:

Amino Acid: 3.7%
Polyphenols: 18.5%
Catechins: 12.1%
Caffeine: 4.0%
Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98

All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from
the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON),
which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain neurons.
Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it leaves
you languid but aware of your surrounding.

It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you get
the gist of it.

Samar

"J Boehm" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:

Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more
specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as
though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea, enough
to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never
drank that tea again. JB

Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

Qi

Rather Gong

Sasha.


& we call it the art of splitting the water melon!

Samar

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sasha.

"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

Qi

Rather Gong

Sasha.


& we call it the art of splitting the water melon!

Samar

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sasha.


:") That's a chinese joke, the movements of taichi qigong is very much
someone trying to split a huge water melon into halves and then distributing
it left and right...

"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

Qi

Rather Gong

Sasha.


& we call it the art of splitting the water melon!

Samar

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sasha.


:") That's a chinese joke, the movements of taichi qigong is very much
someone trying to split a huge water melon into halves and then distributing
it left and right...

Alex igy.com10/23/04


Making me "listening to the sounds" is very much how tea affects me.

Sasha.

Qi

Rather Gong

Sasha.


& we call it the art of splitting the water melon!

Samar

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sasha.

Sasha,

That's a good thing.

Michael

Thank you for your informative reply. I am wondering where you found, or one
can find, this type of information? I suppose a Google search would be a
good start.


"samarkand" wrote in message
...
[Samar plays the scientist and says...]

I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking
the
Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for
processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals:

Amino Acid: 3.7%
Polyphenols: 18.5%
Catechins: 12.1%
Caffeine: 4.0%
Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98

All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from
the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON),
which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain
neurons.
Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it
leaves
you languid but aware of your surrounding.

It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you get
the gist of it.

Samar

"J Boehm" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:

Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more
specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as
though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea that
have this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea,
enough
to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire. Never
drank that tea again. JB

http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm

http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm

http://www.teatalk.com/science/chemistry.htm

http://www.herbalremedies.com/aminoacids.html

http://www.fmltea.com/Teainfo/tea-chemistry%20.htm

:")

They provide some interesting details about the effects of these chemicals
on the body, for the exact compounds in the tea such as the Lonjing 43, I
refer to Zhongguo Mingcha Tupu - Lü Cha Pian (An illustrated guide to Famous
China Teas - Green Teas volume), edited by Shi Hai Gen. They seem to have
produced only one volume on green tea and the project was stalled. It'll be
great for us all if they had contiune and give us more on the other teas.

Samar



"WadeM" wrote in message
...
Thank you for your informative reply. I am wondering where you found, or
one
can find, this type of information? I suppose a Google search would be a
good start.


"samarkand" wrote in message
...
[Samar plays the scientist and says...]

I'm not sure what grade or cultivar of Dragon Well you drank, but taking
the
Longjing 43 cultivar as an example, a spring pick of that cultivar for
processing into Dragon Well will yield the following main biochemicals:

Amino Acid: 3.7%
Polyphenols: 18.5%
Catechins: 12.1%
Caffeine: 4.0%
Ratio of polyphenols and amino acids: 4.98

All the above would contribute to the clam state of mind, especially from
the amino acids, which contain a chemical y-aminobutyric acid (GABARON),
which calms the mind by slowing or inhibiting the movement of brain
neurons.
Between caffeine and y-aminobutyric acid, a balance is struck and it
leaves
you languid but aware of your surrounding.

It sounds simplistic, I'm sure there's more involved, but at least you
get
the gist of it.

Samar

"J Boehm" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 15:13:27 +0000, WadeM wrote:

Hi all,

I've noticed that when drinking tea, specifically green (more
specifically
Dragon's Well), I get into a tranquil and euphoric state. I feel as
though
I've been tranquilized and do not want to move a limb. Is this mainly
a
state of mind, or are there actually some chemical(s) in green tea
that
have this effect. Anyone else notice this?

Thanks,
Yes, same here. I once had a little bit too much of Gunpowder tea,
enough
to sedate me sufficiently to not noticing that my car caught fire.
Never
drank that tea again. JB

"Michael Plant" wrote in message
...
Samar,

Could you say more about the various Long Jins? I'm curious about the
"43"
part. Are there many different varietals, or sub-varietals? Are they
relatively new? Is there an old "traditional" varietal, which is
considered
classical, and from which the others derive? How can I know which of the
sub-varietals I'm drinking? And so on.

Thanks.

Michael


Certainly, Michael.

There are several cultivars that can be made into Longjing, the most widely
used a

1. C. sinensis cv. Longjing 43
2. C. sinensis cv. Longjing-changye
3. C. sinensis cv. Longjingzhong
4. C. sinensis cv. Pinyang-tezaocha
5. C. sinensis cv. Xiapu-yuanxiaolü

The 1st 4 are from the Zhejiang province, but the 5th was from Fujian
province, and cultivated in northern Zhejiang. I understand that there are
cultivars in Yunnan being tested as Longjing - I guess this is the ripple
effects of market demands for the renown teas in China that the farmers also
want to jump on the wagon for a piece of the pie, so they put their teas to
the test and see if it fool buyers and secure a niche for themselves. The
sad low down on this is that the consumer will be confused for the varying
flavours and qualities of a tea...

The only way to determine which varietals you are drinking, is to look for
the physical evidences...

Lonjing 43 - leaf: oval shape, colour: deep green, blade: waxy, smooth &
flat, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense but shallow serration, leaf
apex: tapers gradually,

Lonjing-changye - leaf: long oval shape, colour: bright green, blade: smooth
& slightly undulated, leaf margin: wavy with fine dense serration, leaf
apex: tapers gradually.

Longjingzhong - this is a collective varietal - leaf: long oval, oval and
few round shapes, colour: usually bright green, blade: smooth & slight
undulated, leaf margin: slightly wavy with dense fine serration, leaf apex:
gradual tapers, rounded apex.

Xiapu-yuanxiaolü - leaf: long oval,, colour: bright green, blade: waxy,
surface slightly raised, leaf margin: slightly wavy with blunt & shallow
serration, leaf apex: gradual tapers.

Besides the Longjingzhong varietals, the other 4 varietals were found pretty
recently, in the last 50 years or less.

Hope this answers your queries?

Samar