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Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Old 20-10-2004, 03:04 AM
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This is news to me. What sort of additives?


Vitamines, minerals...all the stuff that guaranties you not to get
Alzheimer.

Do they come off during the routine rinsing just before cooking?


It's pre-rinsed. Well, most germed rice I see for sell is produced by
industrial vitamin food companies (fancl, etc) and it tastes un-natural to
me. The exceptions are the overpriced bio-versions that are humid and in
special 1 cup packages. I have had molds as I used only half of the bio
version and kept the rest in a normal box.
As you said, I don't need that as my diet is balanced, so I have not been
following the latest inventions. I've just seen that for 100 000 yen, you
can buy a rice cooker that germinates the rice in 48 days before cooking it.
They really needed a pretext to ask that much for a cooker.
I eat normal brown rice for taste, and because I like changing. I also
occasionnally cook farro (spelt ?), buckwheat, etc. The "brown rice program"
of the rice cooker is adapted to those grains and to soaked beans, but I
find it too strong for regular brown rice....unless you want it
disgustlingly "yawarakai".

Kuri

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Old 20-10-2004, 06:49 AM
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"crymad" wrote in message

This is news to me. What sort of additives?


Vitamines, minerals...all the stuff that guaranties you not to get
Alzheimer.

Do they come off during the routine rinsing just before cooking?


It's pre-rinsed. Well, most germed rice I see for sell is produced by
industrial vitamin food companies (fancl, etc) and it tastes un-natural to
me. [...]


Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?

--crymad
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Old 20-10-2004, 06:49 AM
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cc wrote:

"crymad" wrote in message

This is news to me. What sort of additives?


Vitamines, minerals...all the stuff that guaranties you not to get
Alzheimer.

Do they come off during the routine rinsing just before cooking?


It's pre-rinsed. Well, most germed rice I see for sell is produced by
industrial vitamin food companies (fancl, etc) and it tastes un-natural to
me. [...]


Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?

--crymad
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Old 20-10-2004, 03:42 PM
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OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!

What am I missing here? I am a big coffee fan. I don;t expect green
tea to have the flavor punch of coffee. But this is really stretch,
extremely weak, grassy, no hint of anything else, let alone a natural
sweetness (something I have read).

Am I missing something? Albeit this is the first one I have tried.

Cheers.
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Old 20-10-2004, 03:42 PM
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OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!

What am I missing here? I am a big coffee fan. I don;t expect green
tea to have the flavor punch of coffee. But this is really stretch,
extremely weak, grassy, no hint of anything else, let alone a natural
sweetness (something I have read).

Am I missing something? Albeit this is the first one I have tried.

Cheers.
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Old 20-10-2004, 04:10 PM
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crymad writes:

Lewis Perin wrote:

crymad writes:


Does your rice happen to be Tamaki brand, in a thick brown bag?


Yes, I already responded, but at the time I probably wasn't
caffeinated enough to think to call my wife and get the authoritative
answer, which is "yes".

Does this matter?


We were just at the Japanese market a couple days ago saw an elderly
Japanese lady buying a big bag of this. She said mold growth isn't a
worry and that you don't have to store it in the refrigerator. Though
this rice may come with the mystery additives Kuri talked about, there
is no mention of it on the package in Japanese. Still, if you got the
room, refrigerator storage can't be beat.


Well, we live in a tiny Manhattan apartment, and our refrigerator's
pretty small. Thanks for the info!

/Lew
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crymad writes:

Lewis Perin wrote:

crymad writes:


Does your rice happen to be Tamaki brand, in a thick brown bag?


Yes, I already responded, but at the time I probably wasn't
caffeinated enough to think to call my wife and get the authoritative
answer, which is "yes".

Does this matter?


We were just at the Japanese market a couple days ago saw an elderly
Japanese lady buying a big bag of this. She said mold growth isn't a
worry and that you don't have to store it in the refrigerator. Though
this rice may come with the mystery additives Kuri talked about, there
is no mention of it on the package in Japanese. Still, if you got the
room, refrigerator storage can't be beat.


Well, we live in a tiny Manhattan apartment, and our refrigerator's
pretty small. Thanks for the info!

/Lew
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http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
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Old 20-10-2004, 04:32 PM
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"crymad" wrote in message

Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?


No, I'm talking of white or brown rice that was put in condition to germ
slightly (about 2 days) so you don't perceive the germ yet, but you're
supposed to get the health wonder effect of
eating germs.

I don't see which one you're talking about. For me, regular rice has the
germ portion intact.

Kuri

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Old 20-10-2004, 04:32 PM
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"crymad" wrote in message

Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?


No, I'm talking of white or brown rice that was put in condition to germ
slightly (about 2 days) so you don't perceive the germ yet, but you're
supposed to get the health wonder effect of
eating germs.

I don't see which one you're talking about. For me, regular rice has the
germ portion intact.

Kuri

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Old 20-10-2004, 08:00 PM
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OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!


Abouna,

What parameters were you using, i.e., amounts of water and leaf, water temp,
and brewing time? Your statement that it came out really weak makes me think
you need an adjustment in onr or more of the above parameters.

Joe
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Old 20-10-2004, 08:00 PM
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OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!


Abouna,

What parameters were you using, i.e., amounts of water and leaf, water temp,
and brewing time? Your statement that it came out really weak makes me think
you need an adjustment in onr or more of the above parameters.

Joe
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Old 21-10-2004, 12:54 AM
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cc wrote:

"crymad" wrote in message

Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?


No, I'm talking of white or brown rice that was put in condition to germ
slightly (about 2 days) so you don't perceive the germ yet, but you're
supposed to get the health wonder effect of
eating germs.


Ah, I had a suspicion you were referring to sprouted/"germinated" rice.
You eat this?

I don't see which one you're talking about. For me, regular rice has the
germ portion intact.


Not regular, polished white rice. Here's a link for the Tamaki Haiga
sold here in the US:

http://www.tamakimai.com/products.html

--crymad
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Old 21-10-2004, 12:54 AM
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cc wrote:

"crymad" wrote in message

Are we talking about the same thing? This is just rice with the germ
portion intact, right?


No, I'm talking of white or brown rice that was put in condition to germ
slightly (about 2 days) so you don't perceive the germ yet, but you're
supposed to get the health wonder effect of
eating germs.


Ah, I had a suspicion you were referring to sprouted/"germinated" rice.
You eat this?

I don't see which one you're talking about. For me, regular rice has the
germ portion intact.


Not regular, polished white rice. Here's a link for the Tamaki Haiga
sold here in the US:

http://www.tamakimai.com/products.html

--crymad
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Old 21-10-2004, 01:09 AM
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Abouna wrote:

OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!

What am I missing here? I am a big coffee fan. I don;t expect green
tea to have the flavor punch of coffee. But this is really stretch,
extremely weak, grassy, no hint of anything else, let alone a natural
sweetness (something I have read).

Am I missing something? Albeit this is the first one I have tried.


Like Joe mentioned, Japanese greens are a bit more tricky to brew than
most black teas. Try altering time and temp, but do try to keep brew
time to less than 2 minutes.

Also, if you're jumping into tea headfirst with greens, it might take
some time before you really start tasting what they have to offer. And
if you're still drinking coffee regularly, this time may never come.
It's like smokers who give up their habit and realize how the flavors in
food had been shrouded.

--crymad
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Old 21-10-2004, 01:09 AM
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Abouna wrote:

OK, I guess I don;t get it.

I just received my sampler pack from Specialteas.com. The first one I
tried was the Japanese Sencha. I am getting nothing from this stuff.
Yes it is indeed grassy, and thats about it!

What am I missing here? I am a big coffee fan. I don;t expect green
tea to have the flavor punch of coffee. But this is really stretch,
extremely weak, grassy, no hint of anything else, let alone a natural
sweetness (something I have read).

Am I missing something? Albeit this is the first one I have tried.


Like Joe mentioned, Japanese greens are a bit more tricky to brew than
most black teas. Try altering time and temp, but do try to keep brew
time to less than 2 minutes.

Also, if you're jumping into tea headfirst with greens, it might take
some time before you really start tasting what they have to offer. And
if you're still drinking coffee regularly, this time may never come.
It's like smokers who give up their habit and realize how the flavors in
food had been shrouded.

--crymad
 




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