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Old 20-09-2004, 03:35 PM
howard richler
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Default coffee-houses men only

I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks
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Old 21-09-2004, 03:04 PM
Space Cowboy
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The early to mid 1700's was the golden era of coffee houses. Women
could only buy tea through their coachmen. In 1717 Thomas Twinings
renames Tom's Coffee House to the Golden Lyons and serves tea on
premise to women. Tea gardens and later tea parlours become the
alternative to coffee houses for women in society. The story of tea
in England is the story of class distinction. I'm not smart I Google.

Jim

(howard richler) wrote in message . com...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks

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Old 21-09-2004, 03:04 PM
Space Cowboy
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The early to mid 1700's was the golden era of coffee houses. Women
could only buy tea through their coachmen. In 1717 Thomas Twinings
renames Tom's Coffee House to the Golden Lyons and serves tea on
premise to women. Tea gardens and later tea parlours become the
alternative to coffee houses for women in society. The story of tea
in England is the story of class distinction. I'm not smart I Google.

Jim

(howard richler) wrote in message . com...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks

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Old 23-09-2004, 05:27 PM
Tea
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Yes, I do. But you should really do you own research, since you are going
to have to footnote the info anyway. There are numerous books on the
history of tea that can give you a quotable reference. A book called The
History of the Poster might also prove useful.

"howard richler" wrote in message
om...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks



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Old 23-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Gee, Howard, why can't you just say what you know and let the person who
asked the question decide how to deal with copyrights.

Sasha.

"Tea" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do. But you should really do you own research, since you are going
to have to footnote the info anyway. There are numerous books on the
history of tea that can give you a quotable reference. A book called The
History of the Poster might also prove useful.

"howard richler" wrote in message
om...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks





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Old 23-09-2004, 10:03 PM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Gee, Howard, why can't you just say what you know and let the person who
asked the question decide how to deal with copyrights.

Sasha.

"Tea" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do. But you should really do you own research, since you are going
to have to footnote the info anyway. There are numerous books on the
history of tea that can give you a quotable reference. A book called The
History of the Poster might also prove useful.

"howard richler" wrote in message
om...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks





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Old 24-09-2004, 03:58 AM
Tea
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Actually, I made an error- the book title is The Poster in History.

I'm not Howard, Sasha. And it's not a matter of dealing with copyrights.
It's a matter of spending a few moments doing research, which could even be
done on the internet. Howard may be a student for all I know- and students
very often want others to do their research for them. They don't learn
anything that way. Besides, it's better to have a quotable reference, and my
saying ,'hmm, I think it's the end of the 19th century' isn't one. It's
simply the opinion of an unknown person on the internet, whose opinion might
very well be worthless. Having taught college, and having had students bring
me spurious information becuase they weretoo lazy to do any fact checking, I
know what that's like.


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Gee, Howard, why can't you just say what you know and let the person who
asked the question decide how to deal with copyrights.

Sasha.

"Tea" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do. But you should really do you own research, since you are

going
to have to footnote the info anyway. There are numerous books on the
history of tea that can give you a quotable reference. A book called The
History of the Poster might also prove useful.

"howard richler" wrote in message
om...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks







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Old 24-09-2004, 03:58 AM
Tea
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Posts: n/a
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Actually, I made an error- the book title is The Poster in History.

I'm not Howard, Sasha. And it's not a matter of dealing with copyrights.
It's a matter of spending a few moments doing research, which could even be
done on the internet. Howard may be a student for all I know- and students
very often want others to do their research for them. They don't learn
anything that way. Besides, it's better to have a quotable reference, and my
saying ,'hmm, I think it's the end of the 19th century' isn't one. It's
simply the opinion of an unknown person on the internet, whose opinion might
very well be worthless. Having taught college, and having had students bring
me spurious information becuase they weretoo lazy to do any fact checking, I
know what that's like.


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Gee, Howard, why can't you just say what you know and let the person who
asked the question decide how to deal with copyrights.

Sasha.

"Tea" wrote in message
...
Yes, I do. But you should really do you own research, since you are

going
to have to footnote the info anyway. There are numerous books on the
history of tea that can give you a quotable reference. A book called The
History of the Poster might also prove useful.

"howard richler" wrote in message
om...
I'm writing an article about the history of tea in England and I read
that 17th century coffee-houses (the term tea-house was only coined
at the end of the century) were the exclusive domain of men. Does
anyone know when women were allowed to frequent coffee-houses, or
tea-houses?

thanks







 




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