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Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Old 04-10-2004, 03:49 PM
Lewis Perin
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"Alex Chaihorsky" writes:

[...green vs black puerhs...]

Fangcha, that I did not like at first (I overcooked it badly) is probably
the most pronounced in terms of taste. I also think that it may be brewed
many different ways with quite different results. I was told that Fangcha
1991 is not as consistently good as the one I tasted - 1999, so can anyone
tell me where can I get more different Fangchas?


I think you have an unexamined assumption: that if you like one
fangcha you'll tend to like all fangchas. I don't see any reason to
think fangchas have any family resemblances that separate them from,
say, bingchas. Seems to me that the differences *among* different
teas within one style of packaging swamp the differences *between*
different styles.

/Lew
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Old 04-10-2004, 03:49 PM
Lewis Perin
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"Alex Chaihorsky" writes:

[...green vs black puerhs...]

Fangcha, that I did not like at first (I overcooked it badly) is probably
the most pronounced in terms of taste. I also think that it may be brewed
many different ways with quite different results. I was told that Fangcha
1991 is not as consistently good as the one I tasted - 1999, so can anyone
tell me where can I get more different Fangchas?


I think you have an unexamined assumption: that if you like one
fangcha you'll tend to like all fangchas. I don't see any reason to
think fangchas have any family resemblances that separate them from,
say, bingchas. Seems to me that the differences *among* different
teas within one style of packaging swamp the differences *between*
different styles.

/Lew
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:35 AM
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Lew, Mike -

Thanks for you advice. Mike - I will be interested in your experience with
the Nai Xiang I sent you. Temps, steep exposure times and all.]

Another matter - on Sept 29th I sent both of you and Michael a private
message and get no answer from any of you. Have you got it? It had a
"Confidential" in its subject.

Sasha.


"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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"Alex Chaihorsky" writes:

[...green vs black puerhs...]

Fangcha, that I did not like at first (I overcooked it badly) is probably
the most pronounced in terms of taste. I also think that it may be brewed
many different ways with quite different results. I was told that Fangcha
1991 is not as consistently good as the one I tasted - 1999, so can
anyone
tell me where can I get more different Fangchas?


I think you have an unexamined assumption: that if you like one
fangcha you'll tend to like all fangchas. I don't see any reason to
think fangchas have any family resemblances that separate them from,
say, bingchas. Seems to me that the differences *among* different
teas within one style of packaging swamp the differences *between*
different styles.

/Lew
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Old 05-10-2004, 04:03 AM
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Thanks for you advice. Mike - I will be interested in your experience with
the Nai Xiang I sent you. Temps, steep exposure times and all.]


I have enough left for one pot. Experimentation so far yielded the
best results around 165 and steeps starting around 35 seconds. Flavor
was creamy, vegetal, and somewhat nutty yet very smooth.

Another matter - on Sept 29th I sent both of you and Michael a private
message and get no answer from any of you. Have you got it? It had a
"Confidential" in its subject.


Never received said message,,,,,,,



Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net
remove the "filter" in my email address to reply
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:14 AM
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"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message ...

Thanks for you advice. Mike - I will be interested in your experience with
the Nai Xiang I sent you. Temps, steep exposure times and all.]


If the Nai Xiang was purchased by mail or online, can you tell me
please who the vendor is so I may obtain some also?

Silvio
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:54 AM
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"Silvio" wrote in message
om...
"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
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Thanks for you advice. Mike - I will be interested in your experience
with
the Nai Xiang I sent you. Temps, steep exposure times and all.]


If the Nai Xiang was purchased by mail or online, can you tell me
please who the vendor is so I may obtain some also?

Silvio


Silvio -

I bough it in China in a teachop at the Yashow market in Beijing.
Sorry.

Sasha.


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Old 05-10-2004, 11:55 AM
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Alex igy.com10/1/04


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I can easily recall almost any oolong I tasted in
the past two-three years.


Wish I could say the same. You're a better man than I am, that's for sure.

One thing I can say right away about ITC green "Bamboo Tea" its a wonderful
tea to travel with. The bamboo cylinder is large enough to hold 250g of tea
tablets and small enough to be easily put in a briefcase or even a jacket
pocket. Each tablet has a half-break-off groove and is very easy to handle.
The bamboo cylinder closes very tight and should provide enough of
protection against external smells without stopping the fermentation
process.


I feel it incumbent upon me to suggest you read my review of this tea at
http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...&param1=5&para
m2=Green+Puerh+Bamboo+Tea&param3=Michael&param4=20 02-05-23. I don't know if
you can point and click that link; you might have to cut and paste it.

By the way, my Pu-erh SRT order arrived today. Now I await my TGY order.
Love those frizbees. I'm a kid in a toy store.

Best,
Michael

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Old 05-10-2004, 12:17 PM
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I read your review and the others. I do not think this is a great tea, but
its OK. I would not agree at all with "horrid" grade.
What is TGY?

Sasha.


"Michael Plant" wrote in message
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Alex igy.com10/1/04


snip

I can easily recall almost any oolong I tasted in
the past two-three years.


Wish I could say the same. You're a better man than I am, that's for sure.

One thing I can say right away about ITC green "Bamboo Tea" its a
wonderful
tea to travel with. The bamboo cylinder is large enough to hold 250g of
tea
tablets and small enough to be easily put in a briefcase or even a jacket
pocket. Each tablet has a half-break-off groove and is very easy to
handle.
The bamboo cylinder closes very tight and should provide enough of
protection against external smells without stopping the fermentation
process.


I feel it incumbent upon me to suggest you read my review of this tea at
http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...&param1=5&para
m2=Green+Puerh+Bamboo+Tea&param3=Michael&param4=20 02-05-23. I don't know
if
you can point and click that link; you might have to cut and paste it.

By the way, my Pu-erh SRT order arrived today. Now I await my TGY order.
Love those frizbees. I'm a kid in a toy store.

Best,
Michael



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Old 05-10-2004, 12:59 PM
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Alex y.com10/5/04


I read your review and the others. I do not think this is a great tea, but
its OK. I would not agree at all with "horrid" grade.


What is TGY?

Sasha.



I did agree with myself at that time. I disagree with my old self now. I
enjoyed writing that review. I still enjoy reading it. I tried the tea a
couple months ago again and found it much improved with age, both mine and
the tea's.

Tie Guan Yin.

Michael

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Old 05-10-2004, 04:22 PM
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Michael Plant writes:

[...ITC green bamboo Puerh...]

I feel it incumbent upon me to suggest you read my review of this tea at
http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...&param1=5&para
m2=Green+Puerh+Bamboo+Tea&param3=Michael&param4=20 02-05-23.


Well, OK, but if you see that, you should also look at my
diametrically opposed review:

http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...am4=2002-08-14

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Old 05-10-2004, 05:13 PM
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Yes, I saw it long time before - I have read that site page by page about
two weeks ago.
I think Mike and Michael were just in a playful mood - really that tea does
not deserve such an outpour of emotion.
I like the other Roys Aged green puerh tablets better: But certainly these
are no match for better cakes.
http://www.imperialtea.com/AB1002000...Category_ID=23

I think it would be nice if we can get 10-20 people here and buy a good
sampler of ITC, SRT etc. puerhs and get a better feeling of them using the
pieces of the same cakes. Say each put $100 and ten we ask Roy what can he
do for us for $2,000.
Three-4 months later - same question for Roy, etc. This we all can not only
taste more tea, but also share the brewing recipies amd hold on to some
pictures and even small samples for time to come. I promise that I will
translate all the wrappers for free.

Whatadayathink?

Sasha.



"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
news
Michael Plant writes:

[...ITC green bamboo Puerh...]

I feel it incumbent upon me to suggest you read my review of this tea at
http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...&param1=5&para
m2=Green+Puerh+Bamboo+Tea&param3=Michael&param4=20 02-05-23.


Well, OK, but if you see that, you should also look at my
diametrically opposed review:


http://www.normbrero.com/cgi-bin/vie...am4=2002-08-14

/Lew
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Old 05-10-2004, 08:04 PM
Melinda
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Sasha wrote:

"I like the other Roys Aged green puerh tablets better: But
certainly these
are no match for better cakes.
http://www.imperialtea.com/AB1002000Store/product.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=413&Category_ID=23"


When I looked at that link I noticed that the outside green and white
patterned box is identical in style to the one that the tuocha I
picked up recently at my local Korean market is in. FWIW. Having a cup
of it (the tuocha, not the ITC puer) now as a matter of fact, it's the
only puer I have at the moment..

Melinda
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Old 06-10-2004, 02:36 PM
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You peaked my curiosity by your description. I just don't go
fluttering around on the Internet by any ole url mentioned here. I
have a 15+ year old similar colored box that is round with single
large cone. It still has a strong smell. Mine uses THE with accent
over e. It had a large seal with 'THE yunnan Tuocha.' It is from
China National Native Produce and Animal By-Products Yunnan Tea
Branch. Back then it was $1.99. I remember when I first saw puerh in
the stores in the mid eighties. I thought it cheap, subpar,
substandard, medicinal for loose leaf variety. I never cracked my
compressed tuocha. I still have puerh tins from then. I have a 20
year old cake somewhere. Am I stitting on a gold mine?

Jim

(Melinda) wrote in message . com...
Sasha wrote:

"I like the other Roys Aged green puerh tablets better: But
certainly these
are no match for better cakes.
http://www.imperialtea.com/AB1002000Store/product.asp?SID=2&Product_ID=413&Category_ID=23"


When I looked at that link I noticed that the outside green and white
patterned box is identical in style to the one that the tuocha I
picked up recently at my local Korean market is in. FWIW. Having a cup
of it (the tuocha, not the ITC puer) now as a matter of fact, it's the
only puer I have at the moment..

Melinda

 




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