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Silk Road Teas (Pu-Erhs)



 
 
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Old 18-09-2004, 10:28 PM
Mike Petro
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I am quite surprised that SRT does not have a web site with pictures, etc. I
would definitely buy more if I had a chance to salivate over some pictures.


I wish I had a tuocha for every time I have heard that, said it myself
even. It appears that David has his hands full with his current
business model and isn't really interested in taking on any more. I
think he does a lot of wholesale too.



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Old 19-09-2004, 02:56 AM
Lewis Perin
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Mike Petro writes:

I am quite surprised that SRT does not have a web site with
pictures, etc. I would definitely buy more if I had a chance to
salivate over some pictures.


I wish I had a tuocha for every time I have heard that, said it
myself even. It appears that David has his hands full with his
current business model and isn't really interested in taking on any
more. I think he does a lot of wholesale too.


I'm sure that wholesale is the vast majority of his business. I
suspect that dealing with tea fanatics is kind of a hobby for him.
How do I feel about being somebody's hobby? In this case, I like it.

/Lew
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Old 19-09-2004, 02:56 AM
Lewis Perin
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Mike Petro writes:

I am quite surprised that SRT does not have a web site with
pictures, etc. I would definitely buy more if I had a chance to
salivate over some pictures.


I wish I had a tuocha for every time I have heard that, said it
myself even. It appears that David has his hands full with his
current business model and isn't really interested in taking on any
more. I think he does a lot of wholesale too.


I'm sure that wholesale is the vast majority of his business. I
suspect that dealing with tea fanatics is kind of a hobby for him.
How do I feel about being somebody's hobby? In this case, I like it.

/Lew
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Old 19-09-2004, 02:56 AM
Lewis Perin
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Mike Petro writes:

I am quite surprised that SRT does not have a web site with
pictures, etc. I would definitely buy more if I had a chance to
salivate over some pictures.


I wish I had a tuocha for every time I have heard that, said it
myself even. It appears that David has his hands full with his
current business model and isn't really interested in taking on any
more. I think he does a lot of wholesale too.


I'm sure that wholesale is the vast majority of his business. I
suspect that dealing with tea fanatics is kind of a hobby for him.
How do I feel about being somebody's hobby? In this case, I like it.

/Lew
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Old 20-09-2004, 09:44 AM
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I will also be very interested in what you think of the Gold Bud.

Doug


I tried "gold bud". It was a good tea but I am not swept off my feet. Why
is it called "gold bud" anyway?
On the wrapper it said (word-bvy-word translation) "Yunnan Arbor tree palace
(imperial) court tribute pressed tea (beencha)".
Where didi the "gold buds": came from?
I am going to ask Dave that question over the phone tomorroow.

Sasha.


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Old 20-09-2004, 09:44 AM
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I will also be very interested in what you think of the Gold Bud.

Doug


I tried "gold bud". It was a good tea but I am not swept off my feet. Why
is it called "gold bud" anyway?
On the wrapper it said (word-bvy-word translation) "Yunnan Arbor tree palace
(imperial) court tribute pressed tea (beencha)".
Where didi the "gold buds": came from?
I am going to ask Dave that question over the phone tomorroow.

Sasha.


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Old 05-10-2004, 09:18 PM
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"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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There's also his cheap loose green Puerh (P-GPE-1), with a bold,
brothy, collard-greens-and-hambone taste.


As strange as it may be to some ,I like collard-greens and hambones.
Although I've had some strange health problems that have made hambones off
limits. So a tea with that warm brothy flavor would be appreciated.

I noticed that Holy Mountain has a loose leaf green puerh with the
designation P-GPE-1, any idea if it's the same tea? They have a reasonably
priced sample.

When I first started drinking good teas many greens and pouchongs had a
salty, brothy, sometimes fishy flavor that took me by surprise at first, but
I learned to really enjoy it. Then it seemed like my taste changed and I no
longer get that from any tea. I had a Taiwan Pouchong from either Upton or
Special Teas that reminded me of my mothers oyster stew with some flowery
notes thrown in. It was amazing. Now it just tastes flowery and perfumey
to me. I love good senchas, and at first they had salmony sea like notes,
but now I don't taste them. I noticed the same thing with beer. My first
tastes of beer was much different than how it tastes to me now.

Drinking the last of my Xiaguan Green Tuo Cha from Teaspring.com and
listening to Luther Allison Live in Chicago.

Blues


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Old 05-10-2004, 09:41 PM
Lewis Perin
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"Blues Lyne" writes:

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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There's also his cheap loose green Puerh (P-GPE-1), with a bold,
brothy, collard-greens-and-hambone taste.


As strange as it may be to some ,I like collard-greens and hambones.
Although I've had some strange health problems that have made hambones off
limits. So a tea with that warm brothy flavor would be appreciated.


I didn't mean to suggest it was a bad tea, and sorry about your
potlikker problem.

I noticed that Holy Mountain has a loose leaf green puerh with the
designation P-GPE-1, any idea if it's the same tea? They have a reasonably
priced sample.

When I first started drinking good teas many greens and pouchongs had a
salty, brothy, sometimes fishy flavor that took me by surprise at first, but
I learned to really enjoy it. Then it seemed like my taste changed and I no
longer get that from any tea. I had a Taiwan Pouchong from either Upton or
Special Teas that reminded me of my mothers oyster stew with some flowery
notes thrown in. It was amazing. Now it just tastes flowery and perfumey
to me. I love good senchas, and at first they had salmony sea like notes,
but now I don't taste them. I noticed the same thing with beer. My first
tastes of beer was much different than how it tastes to me now.


You're onto something there, to be sure. I haven't had Silk Road
P-GPE-1 in quite a while now, and I *think* I'm hoping it would still
taste the same to me.

Drinking the last of my Xiaguan Green Tuo Cha from Teaspring.com


What's it taste like?

and listening to Luther Allison Live in Chicago.


Listening to the muffled sounds of the foundation of a new office
building being dug 14 floors below me in Manhattan.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
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Old 06-10-2004, 12:11 AM
Blues Lyne
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"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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"Blues Lyne" writes:

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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There's also his cheap loose green Puerh (P-GPE-1), with a bold,
brothy, collard-greens-and-hambone taste.


As strange as it may be to some ,I like collard-greens and hambones.
Although I've had some strange health problems that have made hambones
off
limits. So a tea with that warm brothy flavor would be appreciated.


I didn't mean to suggest it was a bad tea, and sorry about your
potlikker problem.


Oh, I didn't take it as bad, just the opposite. I just didn't think that
description would appeal to the majority of tea drinkers. However, it
caught my attention

I noticed that Holy Mountain has a loose leaf green puerh with the
designation P-GPE-1, any idea if it's the same tea? They have a
reasonably
priced sample.

When I first started drinking good teas many greens and pouchongs had a
salty, brothy, sometimes fishy flavor that took me by surprise at first,
but
I learned to really enjoy it. Then it seemed like my taste changed and I
no
longer get that from any tea. I had a Taiwan Pouchong from either Upton
or
Special Teas that reminded me of my mothers oyster stew with some flowery
notes thrown in. It was amazing. Now it just tastes flowery and
perfumey
to me. I love good senchas, and at first they had salmony sea like
notes,
but now I don't taste them. I noticed the same thing with beer. My
first
tastes of beer was much different than how it tastes to me now.


You're onto something there, to be sure. I haven't had Silk Road
P-GPE-1 in quite a while now, and I *think* I'm hoping it would still
taste the same to me.


I think I'll try a sample from Holy Mountain. I also called and asked for
Silk Road's catalog, but it seems like I read somewhere that there was a
500g minimum order. That might be more than my budget can take in one hit.
But then again Christmas is coming soon.


Drinking the last of my Xiaguan Green Tuo Cha from Teaspring.com


What's it taste like?


It took me a while to get this one right. I don't have a scale, so I've
been eyeballing the amount of tea. Once it expands in the water it looks
like what I would expect from a couple of teaspoons of leaves. At first I
was using fairly hot water and experimented with steeping for around 2-4
minutes. That produced a horribly astringent, tarry tea with a really
intense long lasting, sweet, fruity after taste. I loved the after taste,
but the tea was another story.

After reading some of the recent discussions here, I've been brewing it with
160-170 degree water for one minute for the first steep. The tea is nice
and smooth, a little smokey, some fruitiness, mildly astringent with a
sweetness that gets stronger through progressive steeps. I usually have the
water in a thermos here at work, so I don't increase the temperature for
each steep, but do increase the time after the 3rd or 4th steep. The sweet
aftertaste is still there, but more subtle and haunting. It's a very
reasonable tea at $5.90/100g

The only other Puerhs I've had are some samples that Teaspring was kind
enough to send with one of my orders. The Xiaguan isn't as smooth and
doesn't have the musty, earthy flavors that the 10 year old green Puerh
sample had, but has a nicer aftertaste I also had a sample of their 2 year
old Menghai Tuo Cha. I think it was maybe smoother and had more clean horse
barn in it than the Xiaguan, but had a similar sweet fuity aftertase. I
had it about six months ago, so I'm going on memory.

The black puerh samples I've tried give me a mild headache and quesey
feeling. I think I'll stick to greens. They also sent some green puerh tea
bags. Those were actually quite nice also. I was kind of surprised by
that.

and listening to Luther Allison Live in Chicago.


Listening to the muffled sounds of the foundation of a new office
building being dug 14 floors below me in Manhattan.


I think I'll stick with Luther. ; )

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html



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Old 06-10-2004, 01:13 AM
Joanne Rosen
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yes, silk road tea has a $50 minimum
"Blues Lyne" wrote in message
...

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
news
"Blues Lyne" writes:

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
news
There's also his cheap loose green Puerh (P-GPE-1), with a bold,
brothy, collard-greens-and-hambone taste.

As strange as it may be to some ,I like collard-greens and hambones.
Although I've had some strange health problems that have made hambones
off
limits. So a tea with that warm brothy flavor would be appreciated.


I didn't mean to suggest it was a bad tea, and sorry about your
potlikker problem.


Oh, I didn't take it as bad, just the opposite. I just didn't think that
description would appeal to the majority of tea drinkers. However, it
caught my attention

I noticed that Holy Mountain has a loose leaf green puerh with the
designation P-GPE-1, any idea if it's the same tea? They have a
reasonably
priced sample.

When I first started drinking good teas many greens and pouchongs had a
salty, brothy, sometimes fishy flavor that took me by surprise at first,
but
I learned to really enjoy it. Then it seemed like my taste changed and
I no
longer get that from any tea. I had a Taiwan Pouchong from either Upton
or
Special Teas that reminded me of my mothers oyster stew with some
flowery
notes thrown in. It was amazing. Now it just tastes flowery and
perfumey
to me. I love good senchas, and at first they had salmony sea like
notes,
but now I don't taste them. I noticed the same thing with beer. My
first
tastes of beer was much different than how it tastes to me now.


You're onto something there, to be sure. I haven't had Silk Road
P-GPE-1 in quite a while now, and I *think* I'm hoping it would still
taste the same to me.


I think I'll try a sample from Holy Mountain. I also called and asked for
Silk Road's catalog, but it seems like I read somewhere that there was a
500g minimum order. That might be more than my budget can take in one
hit. But then again Christmas is coming soon.


Drinking the last of my Xiaguan Green Tuo Cha from Teaspring.com


What's it taste like?


It took me a while to get this one right. I don't have a scale, so I've
been eyeballing the amount of tea. Once it expands in the water it looks
like what I would expect from a couple of teaspoons of leaves. At first I
was using fairly hot water and experimented with steeping for around 2-4
minutes. That produced a horribly astringent, tarry tea with a really
intense long lasting, sweet, fruity after taste. I loved the after taste,
but the tea was another story.

After reading some of the recent discussions here, I've been brewing it
with 160-170 degree water for one minute for the first steep. The tea is
nice and smooth, a little smokey, some fruitiness, mildly astringent with
a sweetness that gets stronger through progressive steeps. I usually have
the water in a thermos here at work, so I don't increase the temperature
for each steep, but do increase the time after the 3rd or 4th steep. The
sweet aftertaste is still there, but more subtle and haunting. It's a
very reasonable tea at $5.90/100g

The only other Puerhs I've had are some samples that Teaspring was kind
enough to send with one of my orders. The Xiaguan isn't as smooth and
doesn't have the musty, earthy flavors that the 10 year old green Puerh
sample had, but has a nicer aftertaste I also had a sample of their 2
year old Menghai Tuo Cha. I think it was maybe smoother and had more
clean horse barn in it than the Xiaguan, but had a similar sweet fuity
aftertase. I had it about six months ago, so I'm going on memory.

The black puerh samples I've tried give me a mild headache and quesey
feeling. I think I'll stick to greens. They also sent some green puerh
tea bags. Those were actually quite nice also. I was kind of surprised
by that.

and listening to Luther Allison Live in Chicago.


Listening to the muffled sounds of the foundation of a new office
building being dug 14 floors below me in Manhattan.


I think I'll stick with Luther. ; )

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html





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Old 06-10-2004, 01:13 AM
Joanne Rosen
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silk road tea has a $50 minimum
"Blues Lyne" wrote in message
...

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
news

There's also his cheap loose green Puerh (P-GPE-1), with a bold,
brothy, collard-greens-and-hambone taste.


As strange as it may be to some ,I like collard-greens and hambones.
Although I've had some strange health problems that have made hambones off
limits. So a tea with that warm brothy flavor would be appreciated.

I noticed that Holy Mountain has a loose leaf green puerh with the
designation P-GPE-1, any idea if it's the same tea? They have a
reasonably priced sample.

When I first started drinking good teas many greens and pouchongs had a
salty, brothy, sometimes fishy flavor that took me by surprise at first,
but I learned to really enjoy it. Then it seemed like my taste changed
and I no longer get that from any tea. I had a Taiwan Pouchong from
either Upton or Special Teas that reminded me of my mothers oyster stew
with some flowery notes thrown in. It was amazing. Now it just tastes
flowery and perfumey to me. I love good senchas, and at first they had
salmony sea like notes, but now I don't taste them. I noticed the same
thing with beer. My first tastes of beer was much different than how it
tastes to me now.

Drinking the last of my Xiaguan Green Tuo Cha from Teaspring.com and
listening to Luther Allison Live in Chicago.

Blues



 




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