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Ancestor worship, Bushido savagery, and tea



 
 
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Old 15-09-2004, 12:35 AM
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Default Ancestor worship, Bushido savagery, and tea


Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad
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Old 15-09-2004, 12:38 AM
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Thank you.

Sasha.


"crymad" wrote in message
...

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement
that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad



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Old 15-09-2004, 12:38 AM
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Thank you.

Sasha.


"crymad" wrote in message
...

Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement
that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad



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Old 15-09-2004, 02:34 PM
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Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?

Jim

crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 15-09-2004, 02:34 PM
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Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?

Jim

crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 15-09-2004, 11:06 PM
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Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 15-09-2004, 11:06 PM
crymad
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Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 15-09-2004, 11:06 PM
crymad
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Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.


I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 16-09-2004, 02:47 PM
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If there was a video I missed it. There was a gallery of still shots
and at the dinner table the boy's face was blocked by a bowl which you
could assume was a handleless tea cup but if you noticed the
chopsticks it was obviously a rice bowl. I didn't notice any tea
apperati in the shots. It's not important in any case. I don't blame
anyone for never forgetting about brutalities. My father in law
fought in the Pacific and will only travel as far as Hawaii. He
associates tea with the Japanese and when I visit I keep my proclivity
low profile.

Jim

crymad wrote in message ...
Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.

I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 16-09-2004, 02:47 PM
Space Cowboy
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If there was a video I missed it. There was a gallery of still shots
and at the dinner table the boy's face was blocked by a bowl which you
could assume was a handleless tea cup but if you noticed the
chopsticks it was obviously a rice bowl. I didn't notice any tea
apperati in the shots. It's not important in any case. I don't blame
anyone for never forgetting about brutalities. My father in law
fought in the Pacific and will only travel as far as Hawaii. He
associates tea with the Japanese and when I visit I keep my proclivity
low profile.

Jim

crymad wrote in message ...
Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.

I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 17-09-2004, 12:10 AM
crymad
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Space Cowboy wrote:

If there was a video I missed it.


Not only video, but videos -- about 7 various download formats are
available as well as streaming options in Quicktime and Real, all under
the title screen shot. If you have broadband, just download the MPEG4
or MPEG1 file and see this thing in moving glory. It really is a
fascinating film.

There was a gallery of still shots
and at the dinner table the boy's face was blocked by a bowl which you
could assume was a handleless tea cup but if you noticed the
chopsticks it was obviously a rice bowl.


I see the still in question now. Yes, it is a rice bowl.

I didn't notice any tea
apperati in the shots.


Tea makes its appearance throughout the film. In fact, it opens with
shots of schoolchildren walking through tea fields. All in all, the
film is an effective tool for taking a pot shot at Alex's comments
below.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.

I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 17-09-2004, 12:10 AM
crymad
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Space Cowboy wrote:

If there was a video I missed it.


Not only video, but videos -- about 7 various download formats are
available as well as streaming options in Quicktime and Real, all under
the title screen shot. If you have broadband, just download the MPEG4
or MPEG1 file and see this thing in moving glory. It really is a
fascinating film.

There was a gallery of still shots
and at the dinner table the boy's face was blocked by a bowl which you
could assume was a handleless tea cup but if you noticed the
chopsticks it was obviously a rice bowl.


I see the still in question now. Yes, it is a rice bowl.

I didn't notice any tea
apperati in the shots.


Tea makes its appearance throughout the film. In fact, it opens with
shots of schoolchildren walking through tea fields. All in all, the
film is an effective tool for taking a pot shot at Alex's comments
below.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.

I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 17-09-2004, 12:10 AM
crymad
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Space Cowboy wrote:

If there was a video I missed it.


Not only video, but videos -- about 7 various download formats are
available as well as streaming options in Quicktime and Real, all under
the title screen shot. If you have broadband, just download the MPEG4
or MPEG1 file and see this thing in moving glory. It really is a
fascinating film.

There was a gallery of still shots
and at the dinner table the boy's face was blocked by a bowl which you
could assume was a handleless tea cup but if you noticed the
chopsticks it was obviously a rice bowl.


I see the still in question now. Yes, it is a rice bowl.

I didn't notice any tea
apperati in the shots.


Tea makes its appearance throughout the film. In fact, it opens with
shots of schoolchildren walking through tea fields. All in all, the
film is an effective tool for taking a pot shot at Alex's comments
below.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Space Cowboy wrote:

Why is he using chopsticks with his tea cup?


Is this during the dinner scene? I watched again, but didn't see what
you're referring to. If you can tell me at what time point this occurs,
I might be able to spot it.

--crymad


crymad wrote in message ...
Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Japanese Tea Ceremony is
very deeply connected to the issues of Japanese national character,
self-conscience, traditions and traditional values. I made a statement that
I believe that the old Japanese traditional systems of values of which
Bushido is as central as imperial rule are coming.

I too was skeptical of this farfetched claim. But shocking evidence
recently unearthed proves shows that tea is indeed irrevocably linked
with the murderous and fanatical Japanese psyche. Filmed in 1941, just
shortly before the attacks on Pearl Harbor, this documentary provides a
glimpse into the secret world of Japanese militaristic indoctrination.
See the young boys of the day being shaped into the barbaric Kamikaze of
tomorrow. And it all begins...WITH A SIP OF TEA!

http://tinyurl.com/45alc

--crymad

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Old 17-09-2004, 12:41 AM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Tea makes its appearance throughout the film. In fact, it opens with
shots of schoolchildren walking through tea fields. All in all, the
film is an effective tool for taking a pot shot at Alex's comments
below.

--crymad



You are not taking any shots, just avoiding the serious argument. That is
why I thanked you for honorable exit - which is obvious, if this is the best
you can do.

Sasha.


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Old 17-09-2004, 01:38 AM
crymad
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Alex Chaihorsky wrote:

Tea makes its appearance throughout the film. In fact, it opens with
shots of schoolchildren walking through tea fields. All in all, the
film is an effective tool for taking a pot shot at Alex's comments
below.

--crymad


You are not taking any shots, just avoiding the serious argument. That is
why I thanked you for honorable exit - which is obvious, if this is the best
you can do.


In all seriousness, you really should watch this film, Alex. Having
never been to Japan, you'll certainly find it instructive. Goodness,
even I -- who lived there almost 10 years -- and my native Japanese wife
learned something. Did you know that roving tofu sellers used to
actually cut the tofu blocks into small, ready-for-soup pieces?

--crymad
 




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