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Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Old 08-09-2004, 05:10 AM
Dave
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Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea. I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave



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Old 08-09-2004, 07:59 AM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine, it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea. I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave





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Old 08-09-2004, 07:59 AM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine, it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea. I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave





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Old 08-09-2004, 08:03 AM
Falky foo
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keeping in mind, of course, that not everything calling itself 'tea' is of
the real tea plant. There are many 'teas' out there that have nothing to do
with the tea plant and are therefore naturally caffeine free (aka tisanes)



"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,

it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about

Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.

I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave







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Old 08-09-2004, 08:03 AM
Falky foo
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keeping in mind, of course, that not everything calling itself 'tea' is of
the real tea plant. There are many 'teas' out there that have nothing to do
with the tea plant and are therefore naturally caffeine free (aka tisanes)



"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,

it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about

Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.

I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave







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Old 08-09-2004, 01:32 PM
Joel Reicher
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"Dave" writes:

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea. I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.


Decaffeinating the tea yourself may be adequate. Have a look at

http://pages.ripco.net/~c4ha2na9/tea/faq.html#5.6.6.

While there, have a look around the rest of the document. It's
probably the best way to kickstart your research if you haven't done
so already.

Cheers,

- Joel
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Old 08-09-2004, 01:32 PM
Joel Reicher
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"Dave" writes:

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea. I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.


Decaffeinating the tea yourself may be adequate. Have a look at

http://pages.ripco.net/~c4ha2na9/tea/faq.html#5.6.6.

While there, have a look around the rest of the document. It's
probably the best way to kickstart your research if you haven't done
so already.

Cheers,

- Joel
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:16 PM
Natarajan Krishnaswami
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In article , Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine, it
is said to actually help sleep.


Actually, I'd suggest avoiding yerba mate, too, because (from
experience) yerba mate can get you more wired than a piano.

N.
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:16 PM
Natarajan Krishnaswami
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In article , Alex Chaihorsky wrote:
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine, it
is said to actually help sleep.


Actually, I'd suggest avoiding yerba mate, too, because (from
experience) yerba mate can get you more wired than a piano.

N.
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Old 08-09-2004, 03:10 PM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Interesting. My experience and many that of my friends are different. Over
time (about a month of a daily usage) mate appears to clam me down and
deepen my sleep. As someone who spends much of my time in deep thoughts
(mathematical modeling in genetics and immunology) I also noticed that its
is easier for me now to "deepen" my thoughts and keep myself in that state
for longer.
My good friend who does similar things for Oracle told me that he noticed
the same effect. However, these effects appear to come in a slow and mild
fashion.

Alex.

"Natarajan Krishnaswami" wrote in message
...
In article , Alex
Chaihorsky wrote:
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.


Actually, I'd suggest avoiding yerba mate, too, because (from
experience) yerba mate can get you more wired than a piano.

N.



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Old 08-09-2004, 03:10 PM
Alex Chaihorsky
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Interesting. My experience and many that of my friends are different. Over
time (about a month of a daily usage) mate appears to clam me down and
deepen my sleep. As someone who spends much of my time in deep thoughts
(mathematical modeling in genetics and immunology) I also noticed that its
is easier for me now to "deepen" my thoughts and keep myself in that state
for longer.
My good friend who does similar things for Oracle told me that he noticed
the same effect. However, these effects appear to come in a slow and mild
fashion.

Alex.

"Natarajan Krishnaswami" wrote in message
...
In article , Alex
Chaihorsky wrote:
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.


Actually, I'd suggest avoiding yerba mate, too, because (from
experience) yerba mate can get you more wired than a piano.

N.



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Old 08-09-2004, 03:38 PM
fLameDogg
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"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in
om:

Interesting. My experience and many that of my friends are different.
Over time (about a month of a daily usage) mate appears to clam me
down and deepen my sleep.


It is the same for me, but I have heard otherwise from others.
Also, some have written it makes them sick to the stomach. Like
so many things, I suppose it varies by individual. Perhaps some
people are sensitive to certain compounds or combinations in the
plant.

I would suggest anyone try anything new carefully, at first. As
someone with a couple of food allergies, I've learned this the hard
way.

--
fD
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Old 08-09-2004, 04:32 PM
fLameDogg
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"Dave" wrote in
:

Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea. Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea)
contain caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine. Therefore, the question.


You might also like rooibos (not truly "tea", but it makes a nice tisane),
which supposedly contains no caffeine. I have enjoyed it with milk as a
pleasant before-bedtime drink. In fact, I'm pleased to have remembered it.

--
fD
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Old 08-09-2004, 06:00 PM
Dave
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Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me, there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy. Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is what I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day, but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans, but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there, and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake (like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,

it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about

Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.

I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave







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Old 08-09-2004, 06:01 PM
Dave
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"Joel Reicher" wrote in message
...
"Dave" writes:

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.

I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.


Decaffeinating the tea yourself may be adequate. Have a look at

http://pages.ripco.net/~c4ha2na9/tea/faq.html#5.6.6.

While there, have a look around the rest of the document. It's
probably the best way to kickstart your research if you haven't done
so already.

Cheers,


THANK YOU! This is nice. Much appreciated.

Dave


- Joel



 




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