"Joel Reicher" wrote in message
...
"Dave" writes:

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Decaffeinating the tea yourself may be adequate. Have a look at

http://pages.ripco.net/~c4ha2na9/tea/faq.html#5.6.6.

While there, have a look around the rest of the document. It's
probably the best way to kickstart your research if you haven't done
so already.

Cheers,


THANK YOU! This is nice. Much appreciated.

Dave


- Joel

"fLameDogg" wrote in message
. ..
"Dave" wrote in
:

Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea. Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea)
contain caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine. Therefore, the question.

You might also like rooibos (not truly "tea", but it makes a nice tisane),
which supposedly contains no caffeine. I have enjoyed it with milk as a
pleasant before-bedtime drink. In fact, I'm pleased to have remembered
it.

--
fD

THANK YOU! I will check this out. Should I find it somewhere next to the
tea, in my Chinese grocery? Or elsewhere?

Dave

"fLameDogg" wrote in message
. ..
"Dave" wrote in
:

Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea. Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea)
contain caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine. Therefore, the question.

You might also like rooibos (not truly "tea", but it makes a nice tisane),
which supposedly contains no caffeine. I have enjoyed it with milk as a
pleasant before-bedtime drink. In fact, I'm pleased to have remembered
it.

--
fD

THANK YOU! I will check this out. Should I find it somewhere next to the
tea, in my Chinese grocery? Or elsewhere?

Dave

Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area. There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus, just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day, but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there, and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area. There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus, just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day, but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there, and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me, there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least know
who to ask.

you can drink tea in the morning and the afternoon... it won't disturb
your sleep...

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy. Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is what I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day, but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans, but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there, and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

oh boy... don't start with matcha... it's too difficult for you...
find a japanese store where you live (wherever that may be) and ask your
questions there... if they are ok they will give you good advice...
and most of all they will show you how it's done + + + !!
start with some good sencha... master it (or so) and then check out
matcha...

if I were you, I would ask this NG for names and places that one can
rely on in your area... trust me, if you start in tea this is the best
advice you can get !
: )

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me, there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least know
who to ask.

you can drink tea in the morning and the afternoon... it won't disturb
your sleep...

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy. Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is what I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day, but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans, but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there, and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

oh boy... don't start with matcha... it's too difficult for you...
find a japanese store where you live (wherever that may be) and ask your
questions there... if they are ok they will give you good advice...
and most of all they will show you how it's done + + + !!
start with some good sencha... master it (or so) and then check out
matcha...

if I were you, I would ask this NG for names and places that one can
rely on in your area... trust me, if you start in tea this is the best
advice you can get !
: )

Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here. Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here. Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

A Japanese person that needs tea or anything else but self-discipline to
control his/her temper or mood is either not Japanese or need a doctor ASAP.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write
a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any
one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain
way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are
to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That
would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here.
Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a
manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live
and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good
that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW
ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both
for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of
seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the
forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can
manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not
have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it
was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything
about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

A Japanese person that needs tea or anything else but self-discipline to
control his/her temper or mood is either not Japanese or need a doctor ASAP.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write
a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any
one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain
way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are
to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That
would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here.
Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a
manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live
and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good
that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW
ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both
for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of
seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the
forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can
manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not
have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it
was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything
about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Dave,

Imagine someone who is not at all familiar with Christianity is writing a
book about a boy who misbehaved and went to church and Christian service on
the spot set him straight. Certainly for the purposes of your book you will
have to grossly simplify the subject and probably do that without
understanding that certain tiny points in Christianity were discussed for
centuries and people died for them. Imagine the depth of insults for serious
Christians.
It is entirely up to you, but I would avoid touching subjects of such depth
and ceremonial value for such purposes. Your story suppose to teach children
that everything should be done a certain way, and you yourself take a
shortcut through may be the most ceremonial thing invented by humans short
of Catholic Mess where the whole meaning is that there is no shortcut

I am sorry if I sound as a bore and its entirely your business how and what
you write (nothing, and certainly no tea ceremony should stay in the way of
the First Amendment) but you may want to at least to think of alternatives.
Let Japanese be sloppy about their culture and us - about Euro-American. But
the opposite create resentment.

Sorry if I was unpolite.

Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, Nevada.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write
a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any
one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain
way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are
to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That
would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here.
Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a
manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live
and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good
that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW
ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both
for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of
seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the
forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can
manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not
have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it
was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything
about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Dave,

Imagine someone who is not at all familiar with Christianity is writing a
book about a boy who misbehaved and went to church and Christian service on
the spot set him straight. Certainly for the purposes of your book you will
have to grossly simplify the subject and probably do that without
understanding that certain tiny points in Christianity were discussed for
centuries and people died for them. Imagine the depth of insults for serious
Christians.
It is entirely up to you, but I would avoid touching subjects of such depth
and ceremonial value for such purposes. Your story suppose to teach children
that everything should be done a certain way, and you yourself take a
shortcut through may be the most ceremonial thing invented by humans short
of Catholic Mess where the whole meaning is that there is no shortcut

I am sorry if I sound as a bore and its entirely your business how and what
you write (nothing, and certainly no tea ceremony should stay in the way of
the First Amendment) but you may want to at least to think of alternatives.
Let Japanese be sloppy about their culture and us - about Euro-American. But
the opposite create resentment.

Sorry if I was unpolite.

Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, Nevada.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to write
a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any
one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain
way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?) is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are
to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That
would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here.
Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besides The Book Of Tea? TIA


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
Dave,

I am an opponent of the Japanese tea ceremony and prefer Chinese one.
It will take me hours to explain why. But believe me - writing about
Japanese Tea Ceremony
without spending years studying and practicing it is like writing a
manual
on an extremely old and complex religious practice and even ell-known
masters usually do not feel worthy of such writings.
Chinese one has no (or almost no) ritualistic side whatsoever.
Anyway, if I were you I would read, read, read. Tell us where you live
and
may be we will be able to direct you to a good teahouse in your area.
There
you can try what you learn and get some fun out of it too.
Yes, it is good that you understand how ignorant you are and its good
that
you are honest about it. The problem is that you have no idea HOW
ignorant
you are. Nothing wrong about it, there is so much to know about tea that
anyone (including myself, naturally) who does not feel as an ignoramus,
just
have no idea of the scope of the subject.

The Web is a wonderful tool and you can learn a lot by using Google. That
is
why I leave your question about Matcha without an answer. It is one thing
to
answer a quick question for someone who just needs a quick answer, as we
already did. If you are seriously interested in tea you have to start
digging yourself.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Hey Alex, thanks for the reply.

Okay, well, I didn't know what plant the green tea came from. To me,
there
are a lot of things called "tea," including herbals which I understand
have
no caffeine. Like I said, I am ignorant but honest. Now I at least
know
who to ask.

I am seeking to become familiar with the Japanese Tea Ceremony, both
for
my
own pleasure and for the ability to write about it with some accuracy.
Can
you tell me what Macha (Matcha?) is? And how will I know if that is
what
I
am buying? I *think* I saw some at the Chinese grocery the other day,
but
want to know for certain. I really would like to do this right.

Speaking of the Japanese Tea Ceremony, I have the small kit sold under
that
name in some bookstores, as well as another called "About Tea" or
something
like that. The second one contains only a book of meditative thoughts
and
two ceramic cups. The first contains other paraphernailia for the
purpose
of actually trying to replicate the ceremony with some feeling of
seeing
the
genuine thing. I am sure it is the abbreviated version, for Americans,
but
it's a start. Any ideas on where to go next? I hope to someday fly to
Florida for the purpose of having tea with the guy who wrote the
forward
to
the copy of The Book Of Tea that came in the first kit. If not there,
and
him, then somewhere else appropriately genuine. Like I said, I would
really
like to experience something as close to The Real Thing as I can
manage.

Caffeine in the tea. Sigh. Someone else suggested decaffeinating it
myself, and I may try that. Will definetly check out the link they
posted.
In the meantime, I will only have a cup when I am trying to stay awake
(like
right now.) So very gratifying. Plain and unsweetened, with a slight
bitter edge (which makes me think "Like life itself.). I am hooked.

Thanks again.

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
m...
Dave, you have answered your question yourself.
Jasmin tea is TEA, i.e. leaves of C. sinensis, so how could it not
have
caffeine?
All tea that is made of C. sinensis leaves have caffeine. Unless it
was
decaffeinated.
If you have sleep disorder stay clear of tea.
Try mate (made of Yerba) the alcaloid tyere is not caffeine but
mateine,
it
is said to actually help sleep.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Please forgive the ignorance, but I really do not know anything
about
Tea.
Does Jasmine tea (made with Jasmine blossoms and green tea) contain
caffeine?

Am currently doing research, and getting sucked into the world of
Tea.
I
also have a sleep disorder, and am supposed to stay away from
caffeine.
Therefore, the question.

Any help is appreciated. Very happy to have found this group, and
look
forward to many happy cups together.

Dave

Oh, he is definetly NOT Japanese. He is an arrogant Texan (the kind I grew
up around.)

Dave


"Alex Chaihorsky" wrote in message
om...
A Japanese person that needs tea or anything else but self-discipline to
control his/her temper or mood is either not Japanese or need a doctor
ASAP.

Alex.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
Matcha: Gotcha. Thanks. And thank you for putting my ignorance in
perspective. I really need to write about the Japanese ceremony, as it
is
the ritualistic side that matters to the story. I am not trying to
write
a
book that covers the complete breadth and depth of the ceremony (if any
one
book could do that) but just give an idea as to the meaning. It's for a
kids book, and the main focus is on how everything has to be a certain
way,
and any faux pas is absolutely taboo. It's about how ettiquette (sp?)
is
EVERYTHING. Main idea in the story: a kid who enjoys misbehaving is
being
taught to behave, and the Japanese Tea Ceremony is his final exam. It's
a
kid's book, so only the fundamentals of the philosophy behind it all are
to
be examined.

Thanks again for your input. I probably still have no idea just how
ignorant I am, but I am working on it.

PS: Does the tea made and drunk in the JTC have calming effects on the
drinker? Seems I read this somewhere, but can't remember where. That
would
help my story, so if it doesn't, what effects does it have? Is it
highly
caffeinated? (I hope not.)

Dave


PPS: I am in Houston, and would LOVE to find a decent teahouse here.
Also,
what books would you recommend I read, besi