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Kuding and Languiren Tea



 
 
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Old 04-09-2004, 07:40 PM
Emach
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Default Kuding and Languiren Tea

Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.


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Old 06-09-2004, 02:17 AM
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"Emach" none ha scritto nel messaggio
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Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think

Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.



The Chinese sources I have indicate the scientific name of Kuding tea as
Ilex kudingcha Tseng. . The gunus Ilex is the same of Mate (Ilex
paraguaiensis). I personally do not like it, even if it is apreciated for it
medical properties: cooling, purifying and dispelling hangover. I think that
with a few cups of some green Pu'er I can have all this and also something
good to drink!


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Old 06-09-2004, 02:17 AM
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"Emach" none ha scritto nel messaggio
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Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think

Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.



The Chinese sources I have indicate the scientific name of Kuding tea as
Ilex kudingcha Tseng. . The gunus Ilex is the same of Mate (Ilex
paraguaiensis). I personally do not like it, even if it is apreciated for it
medical properties: cooling, purifying and dispelling hangover. I think that
with a few cups of some green Pu'er I can have all this and also something
good to drink!


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Old 06-09-2004, 02:23 AM
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"Emach" none writes:

Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb.


Right. It's a member of the holly family (tea is a camellia.) The
only batch I've tasted was insanely bitter, but I've seen claims that
that isn't always so.

I believe Languiren is a true tea, an oolong from Yunnan province.

/Lew
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Old 06-09-2004, 02:23 AM
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"Emach" none writes:

Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb.


Right. It's a member of the holly family (tea is a camellia.) The
only batch I've tasted was insanely bitter, but I've seen claims that
that isn't always so.

I believe Languiren is a true tea, an oolong from Yunnan province.

/Lew
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Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
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Old 06-09-2004, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the info. It's interesting Kuding is of the genus Ilex, as I do
enjoy a cup of Mate in the morning. I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?


"Emach" none wrote in message ...
Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think

Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.




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Old 06-09-2004, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the info. It's interesting Kuding is of the genus Ilex, as I do
enjoy a cup of Mate in the morning. I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?


"Emach" none wrote in message ...
Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think

Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.




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Old 06-09-2004, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the info. It's interesting Kuding is of the genus Ilex, as I do
enjoy a cup of Mate in the morning. I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?


"Emach" none wrote in message ...
Can anyone provide some information on these two teas. I don't think

Kuding
is actually tea, but some other herb. I cannot find much on the internet,
but have heard these have healthful properties.




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Old 06-09-2004, 09:17 PM
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Yes, prior to 1995 it was illegal to import it into the US. Presumably
because of the microbial nature of the tea. US authorities were afraid
of what they did not understand.



On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:32:30 -0400, "Emach" none cast caution to the
wind and posted:

I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?



Mike Petro
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Old 06-09-2004, 09:17 PM
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Yes, prior to 1995 it was illegal to import it into the US. Presumably
because of the microbial nature of the tea. US authorities were afraid
of what they did not understand.



On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:32:30 -0400, "Emach" none cast caution to the
wind and posted:

I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?



Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net
remove the "filter" in my email address to reply
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Old 06-09-2004, 09:17 PM
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Yes, prior to 1995 it was illegal to import it into the US. Presumably
because of the microbial nature of the tea. US authorities were afraid
of what they did not understand.



On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 14:32:30 -0400, "Emach" none cast caution to the
wind and posted:

I guess I'll stick to the Pu'er I
recently purchased from M&J's - the mushroom shaped green. By the way, is
it true that Pu'er could not be imported into the US at one time?



Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net
remove the "filter" in my email address to reply
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:16 PM
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Mike Petro writes:

Yes, prior to 1995 it was illegal to import it into the US. Presumably
because of the microbial nature of the tea. US authorities were afraid
of what they did not understand.


Cautious of what they didn't know, surely. I doubt the authorities
lacked the ability to comprehend the information once they had it.

Cheers,

- Joel
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Old 08-09-2004, 02:16 PM
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Mike Petro writes:

Yes, prior to 1995 it was illegal to import it into the US. Presumably
because of the microbial nature of the tea. US authorities were afraid
of what they did not understand.


Cautious of what they didn't know, surely. I doubt the authorities
lacked the ability to comprehend the information once they had it.

Cheers,

- Joel
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Old 08-09-2004, 10:14 PM
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I don't want to be polemical, and I want to apologize to everybody for using
this space for this kind of totally tea unrelated remarks, but I couldn't
resist:

Cautious of what they didn't know, surely. I doubt the authorities
lacked the ability to comprehend the information once they had it.


....well, personally, seeing the interpretation of intelligence reports about
the situation of mass destruction weapons in a certain country in the Middle
East, well, if I was American, I will start to have some doubt about the
ability of the authorities to comprehend the information even once they had
it.


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Old 08-09-2004, 10:14 PM
Livio Zanini
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I don't want to be polemical, and I want to apologize to everybody for using
this space for this kind of totally tea unrelated remarks, but I couldn't
resist:

Cautious of what they didn't know, surely. I doubt the authorities
lacked the ability to comprehend the information once they had it.


....well, personally, seeing the interpretation of intelligence reports about
the situation of mass destruction weapons in a certain country in the Middle
East, well, if I was American, I will start to have some doubt about the
ability of the authorities to comprehend the information even once they had
it.


 




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