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Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?



 
 
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Old 26-12-2003, 11:31 PM
crymad
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

"Well look at them...they're cool."

I caught his True Brew II episode on tea last night. This was a repeat
broadcast. A good introductory course in tea, though greens got
somewhat overlooked. I usually find his meticulous analyses on cooking
technique right on the money. His debunking of lofty classicism and
willingness to employ cheaper goods from Home Depot as tools in the
kitchen is also admirable. So his falling head over heels for those
decorative, impractical, gift shop tetsubin comes as a surprise. He
usually shows better sense.

You can read the transcript and see pics of those ugly tetsubin he

http://goodeatsfanpage.com/Season4/T...Transcript.htm

--crymad
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Old 28-12-2003, 03:31 PM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

"crymad" wrote in message
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"Well look at them...they're cool."

I caught his True Brew II episode on tea last night. This was a repeat
broadcast. A good introductory course in tea, though greens got
somewhat overlooked. I usually find his meticulous analyses on cooking
technique right on the money. His debunking of lofty classicism and
willingness to employ cheaper goods from Home Depot as tools in the
kitchen is also admirable. So his falling head over heels for those
decorative, impractical, gift shop tetsubin comes as a surprise. He
usually shows better sense.


Why are they impractical? I don't own one, but I do think they're pretty
cool too. I have a love for cast iron cookware, they have their own beauty
inherent in 'cooking potential' and performance, plus some things are just
cool to look at. So why not?

Is there a better type of pot that you think is more practical? Maybe
ceramic is more efficient and keeping tea hot?

-ben


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Old 29-12-2003, 01:09 AM
crymad
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?



Ben Snyder wrote:

"crymad" wrote in message


So his falling head over heels for those
decorative, impractical, gift shop tetsubin comes as a surprise. He
usually shows better sense.


Why are they impractical? I don't own one, but I do think they're pretty
cool too. I have a love for cast iron cookware, they have their own beauty
inherent in 'cooking potential' and performance, plus some things are just
cool to look at. So why not?


Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea. Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.

Is there a better type of pot that you think is more practical?


The ubiquitous kyuusu, of either clay ware or ceramic. A nation of
Japanese can't be wrong.

--crymad
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Old 29-12-2003, 02:52 AM
Ben Snyder
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea. Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.


thanks for the info, now i definitely won't be buying one :-)

Is there a better type of pot that you think is more practical?


The ubiquitous kyuusu, of either clay ware or ceramic. A nation of
Japanese can't be wrong.


all of my teapots are ceramic or clay, and work great. i guess iron
wouldn't be a step up then :-)

-ben


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Old 29-12-2003, 04:16 AM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?


"Ben Snyder" wrote in message
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Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea. Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.


thanks for the info, now i definitely won't be buying one :-)

Is there a better type of pot that you think is more practical?


The ubiquitous kyuusu, of either clay ware or ceramic. A nation of
Japanese can't be wrong.


all of my teapots are ceramic or clay, and work great. i guess iron
wouldn't be a step up then :-)

-ben



My teapots are just clutter now that I use a thermal carafe exclusively.
I've used glass lined carafes in the past but now I have a huge (2 liter)
Oggi double stainless steel one. It seems very sturdy.


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Old 29-12-2003, 07:42 AM
Agalena
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea. Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.

I actually love my Tetsubin. It's enameled on the inside so there is no
flavor imparted to the tea. It also hasn't rusted in almost 3 years of use.

Agalena


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Old 29-12-2003, 11:00 AM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?



Agalena wrote:

Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea. Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.

I actually love my Tetsubin. It's enameled on the inside so there is no
flavor imparted to the tea. It also hasn't rusted in almost 3 years of use.


What is it that you love about it? What makes it preferable over clay
ware or ceramic?

--crymad
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Old 29-12-2003, 04:37 PM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

The ubiquitous kyuusu, of either clay ware or ceramic. A nation of
Japanese can't be wrong.


Umm. Ever hear of Pearl Harbor?




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Old 29-12-2003, 11:23 PM
crymad
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?



Loiskelly1 wrote:

The ubiquitous kyuusu, of either clay ware or ceramic. A nation of
Japanese can't be wrong.


Umm. Ever hear of Pearl Harbor?


Yes, war is wrong. Now, back to tea...

--crymad
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Old 29-12-2003, 11:50 PM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?


"crymad" wrote in message
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Agalena wrote:

Cast iron cookware has many merits. But not for brewing tea.

Tetsubin
were originally intended for just boiling water. I'm not certain when
the tetsubin-as-teapot idea got started, but any vessel that imparts a
flavor on tea and easily rusts unless quickly dried is not a good
choice.

I actually love my Tetsubin. It's enameled on the inside so there is no
flavor imparted to the tea. It also hasn't rusted in almost 3 years of

use.

What is it that you love about it? What makes it preferable over clay
ware or ceramic?


I wouldn't necessarily say it's preferable, but it's just as good. It also
holds heat well so the tea stays hot.

Agalena


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Old 30-12-2003, 02:41 AM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

(Loiskelly1) wrote in message ...
Umm. Ever hear of Pearl Harbor?


Ever hear of Executive Order 9066?
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Old 30-12-2003, 07:03 PM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

Ever hear of Executive Order 9066?

The original post said a nation of Japanese can't be wrong. My response
offered evidence to the contrary, while your post offers nothing.



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Old 30-12-2003, 11:25 PM
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

(Yuriy Pragin) wrote in message . com...
(Loiskelly1) wrote in message ...
Umm. Ever hear of Pearl Harbor?


Ever hear of Executive Order 9066?


Yuri:

You are talking about-

EXECUTIVE ORDER AUTHORIZING THE SECRETARY OF WAR TO PRESCRIBE MILlTARY
AREAS

WHEREAS the successful prosecution of the war requires every possible
protection against espionage and against sabotage to
nationaldefense material, nationaldefense premises, and
nationaldefense utilities as defined in Section 4, Act of April 20,
1918,
40 Stat. 533, as amended by the Act of November 30, 1940, 54 Stat.
1220, and the Act of August 21, 1941, 55 Stat. 655
(U.S.C., Title 50, Sec. 104);....................................

This order shall not be construed as modifying or limiting in any way
the authority heretofore granted under Executive Order
No. 8972 dated December 12, 1941, nor shall it be construed as
limiting or modifying the duty and responsibility of the Federal
Bureau of Investigatidn, with respect to the investigation of alleged
acts of sabotage or the duty and responsibility of the
Attorney General and the Department of Justice under the Proclamations
of December 7 and 8, 1941, prescribing regulations
for the conduct and control of alien enemies, except as such duty and
responsibility is superseded by the designation of military
areas hereunder.

FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
THE WHITE HOUSE

Right?

Ripon
(From Bangladesh)
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Old 31-12-2003, 06:54 PM
Ripon
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Default Alton Brown loves tetsubin. Why?

(Yuriy Pragin) wrote in message . com...
(Ripon) wrote in message . com...
Yuri:

You are talking about-

EXECUTIVE ORDER AUTHORIZING THE SECRETARY OF WAR TO PRESCRIBE MILlTARY
AREAS

The days following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor unable to
strike back effectively against the Japanese Empire, Americans in the
Western states lashed out at fellow citizens and resident aliens of
Japanese ancestry.

Executive Order 9066, signed by President Roosevelt on February 19,
1942, was the instrument that allowed military commanders to designate
areas "from which any or all persons may be excluded." Under this
order all Japanese and Americans of Japanese ancestry were removed
from Western coastal regions to guarded camps in the interior.
Approximately 118,000 citizens were routed under military guard to
assembly centers and then ten internment camps with no more than what
they could carry in two suitcases.

@Loiskelly1 -- You think my post offers nothing? On the contrary...


Yuri:

Yes, Executive Order 9066 is true and very humiliating and pathetic. I
understand your feeling. But recently US government is filing all
those victims family name and has a plan to compensate then. We all
agree-War is always wrong. That's why we all are here from different
nations and enjoy to talk about tea. This way we build more
cross-cultural understanding. We are in one world- "Tea World"

Japanese produce very good green tea and tea pot. We all love
Japanese green tea. Let's come back to the point- "tea talk." Happy
New Year to all. Thanks.

Enjoy your cup of tea.

Ripon
(From Bangladesh)
 




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