"Debbie Deutsch" wrote in message
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| An accurate, [snip] the basics of IP networking I think I am very firm
ground.

More importantly, what is the price of Rose Tea in China? ;-)

Debbie Deutsch wrote in message .97.132...
crymad wrote in
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So the first two octets designate the actual ISP? I would have
thought the last two do, with the first two designating a broader,
geographic region. Much like, say, the way country codes and area
codes are for telephone numbers. With IP addresses, it's the other
way around?

--crymad


No, actually it's not that simple... or simple at all.

IP addresses are divided into two parts. The first part identifies a
network. The second part identifies a host system (like a PC or a server
or a switch interface) inside the network. It has nothing to do with
geography. It's just a way for the people who run a network to obtain a
number for their network, and for them to assign numbers to things
attached to the network.

It used to be there were some rules for how big the first part of the
address was (which dictated how much was left for the second part). But
the Internet grew to be much bigger than its designers ever expected. It
began to run out of usable addresses, because the rules worked in such a
way that there just were not enough addresses that could be used for very
large networks. So some new, backwards-compatible rules were created to
get around that. I would probably bore most folks on this list if I
tried to explain here. The long and the short of it is that how an
address is interpretted is by matching against a table. You can't just
look at an address in isolation and tell. Also, the first part of an
address (the part that identifies a network) doesn't have to be an even
number of octets long. You really have to compare the binary numbers.
However, if you do see two addresses that match up past the first octet,
it is reasonable to wonder if they belong to the same network.

Oh, and just to make things more interesting, an ISP can own multiple
networks (of course). So, if two addresses start the same way, they
might belong to the same ISP, but if two addresses look completely
different, they might belong to the same ISP anyway.

It is best, of course, to drink a cup of tea while contemplating these
mysteries. :-)

Debbie

Debbie & Crymad:

Thanks guys for your explanation but the problem is I have been lost
in space. Sorry, I don't understant this kind of IT language that
much. I think we can close down this issue. if I have any problem I
will personally contact you. Reminds me some another Topic where
everything became little indecent at the end , though the topic was a
simple quistion. I withdrawl my question. Lets have a good cup of tea
and relax. Thanks again.

Ripon
(From Bangladesh)

Michael Plant wrote in
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Debbie
6.97.13212/2/03


[Read Debbie's entire post elsewhere.]

Debbie, I think you're doing a splendid job of exposing the spammers
and hopefully discouraging them -- a service to god, man, and
technology.

I'm downing a few delightful cups of SpecialTea's Lin Yun White Down
at the moment and listening to Mahler songs, procrastinating and
worrying over some lost papers due in the central office immediately
if not sooner, which they ain't gonna be. Help.

This calls for another cup of tea.

Michael






Well, gee, thank you! How is the Lin Yun White Down? And a fellow
Mahler devotee! (tho' I tend towards the symphonies over the leider).

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"Debbie Deutsch" wrote in message
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| An accurate, [snip] the basics of IP networking I think I am very firm
ground.

More importantly, what is the price of Rose Tea in China? ;-)




Beats me, it looks like it is being sold in Canada. Having said that,
SpecialTeas does offer a rose-scented/flavored Chinese black tea (quite
traditional, actually) that I rather enjoy on occasion. I don't know if
it has any health benefits, but it sure is pleasant sipping on a quiet
evening.

Debbie

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It was open stage night in rec.food.drink.tea, when Debbie Deutsch
stepped up to the microphone and muttered:

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"Debbie Deutsch" wrote in message
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| An accurate, [snip] the basics of IP networking I think I am
| very firm
ground.

More importantly, what is the price of Rose Tea in China? ;-)


Beats me, it looks like it is being sold in Canada. Having said
that, SpecialTeas does offer a rose-scented/flavored Chinese
black tea (quite traditional, actually) that I rather enjoy on
occasion. I don't know if it has any health benefits, but it
sure is pleasant sipping on a quiet evening.

More importantly, it *is* being sold by my LTS - and I did have
some on hand. But the other half swiped it and took it to work with
her.

--
Derek

If you can't learn to do something well, learn to enjoy doing it
poorly.

i usually drink tentea's green rose tea
and rishi teas rose melange which includes white tea, rose and yellow rose
teabuds, peppermint and lavendar-
both are great tasting
joanne


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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:31:21 -0600, Debbie Deutsch
wrote:

"Dave" wrote in news:sb2zb.29965$_h.15208
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More importantly, what is the price of Rose Tea in China? ;-)




Beats me, it looks like it is being sold in Canada. Having said that,
SpecialTeas does offer a rose-scented/flavored Chinese black tea (quite
traditional, actually) that I rather enjoy on occasion. I don't know if
it has any health benefits, but it sure is pleasant sipping on a quiet
evening.

I got some rose tuo chas from the Holy Mountain Trading Company that I
liked pretty well--they tasted more like lychee than rose, though.

--Rebecca