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I have about 200g of Gunpowder Temple of Heaven. I generally like this
tea and I think I have the brewing parameters about right (~1.5-2.0 g/cup for 4:00 at 160°F). But I've noticed that after several cups, I get a mild sensation in the back of my throat that feels more or less like heartburn. I say "more or less" because I'm on very strong prescription medication to control stomach acid, so I'm pretty sure it isn't really heartburn. I haven't had that for 20 years or so. Tea contains caffeine, which can cause a relaxation of the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) allowing stomach acid to squirt up into the esophagus. This sounds like it might be the problem. On the other hand, several web sites recommend tea to aid in digestion, especially green tea. ;-) Others claim that herbal teas with even trace amounts of peppermint, chamomile, ginger, licorice root, or catnip help the stomach lining repair itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies? |
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On Oct 3, 4:54*pm, Prof Wonmug wrote:
I have about 200g of Gunpowder Temple of Heaven. I generally like this tea and I think I have the brewing parameters about right (~1.5-2.0 g/cup for 4:00 at 160°F). But I've noticed that after several cups, I get a mild sensation in the back of my throat that feels more or less like heartburn. I say "more or less" because I'm on very strong prescription medication to control stomach acid, so I'm pretty sure it isn't really heartburn. I haven't had that for 20 years or so. Tea contains caffeine, which can cause a relaxation of the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) allowing stomach acid to squirt up into the esophagus. This sounds like it might be the problem. On the other hand, several web sites recommend tea to aid in digestion, especially green tea. ;-) Others claim that herbal teas with even trace amounts of peppermint, chamomile, ginger, licorice root, or catnip help the stomach lining repair itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies? Gunpowder isn't really known for being a higher-end tea. It can be rough in a number of ways. It is often acidic and can be smoky/harsh. Unless blended for Moroccan mint, and even then it is not always pleasant. I think we all have a Temple of Heaven gunpowder box that we've purchased at some point in our early tea journey's... i think that's how they stay in business It sure isn't for the tea.Most of us stay away from the overly positive health claims made about tea, it isn't a wonderdrug, it's just like any other plant in that it may have some small trace properties that can be beneficial but it won't fix your heart, tile your bathroom, and mow the lawn as so many make such wild claims. Herbs and tea do have some subtle properties though and the ones you have mentioned are all good ones for a number of things. A great book is called "Back to Eden" and is an old book in it's umpteenth reprinting which is filled with natural cures and herbs and info. I'd say that you probably want to stick to some of the milder teas at first and get some bearing. Assam and gunpowder are like being punched in the face as far as subtlety. Try some lighter greens and oolongs, stay away from the whites and blacks right off the bat especially with these issues. Then work around and branch out. Yellow tea (light and slightly nutty), Bi Lo Chun (light and refreshing), Dragonwell (mild and chestnutty), TGY (light-to-mild and floral), Shui Xian (mild but basic), even some of the more generic "Chinese Restaurant Teas" which are Shui Xian or a similar mild oolong. There are others, in this range too, of light to mild teas that will be much better reference points. - Dominic |
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It all depends on which TOH you are talking about.
There is TOH from Shanghai Export Company brand found in stores. http://www.shanghaitiantan.com/en/products_lucha.aspx About the only thing this TOH has going for it is because it won an international taste award. It will make the hairs on your neck standup and reaching for the antacid. It is heavier and will ping a cup when dropped. It is larger cut leaf. There is nothing wrong with that perse but that kind of tea I think more medicinal. I drink this during flu season. In due respect from this group the taste varies in harshness. The Arabic version in the lower right is tolerable. There is a minty note in the aroma. There is TOH also called pearl tea from Zhejiang Province which adjourns Shanghai Province that is a milder and more aromatic green tea. It is smaller cut leaf with some whole. Look for the version where the pearl is very light in density. It is so light it is affected by static and some will cling to your finger when touched. I got this one from a jar in SF Chinatown simply labeled with the Zhu character. In both cases the dry semi irregular pellet is smooth and dark grey. The original gunpowder came from one town in Zhejiang. Now it includes the whole province. So taste isnt a given. When I taste tea perse I always note the esophagus and stomach. Jim On Oct 3, 2:54 pm, Prof Wonmug wrote: I have about 200g of Gunpowder Temple of Heaven. I generally like this tea and I think I have the brewing parameters about right (~1.5-2.0 g/cup for 4:00 at 160°F). But I've noticed that after several cups, I get a mild sensation in the back of my throat that feels more or less like heartburn. I say "more or less" because I'm on very strong prescription medication to control stomach acid, so I'm pretty sure it isn't really heartburn. I haven't had that for 20 years or so. Tea contains caffeine, which can cause a relaxation of the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) allowing stomach acid to squirt up into the esophagus. This sounds like it might be the problem. On the other hand, several web sites recommend tea to aid in digestion, especially green tea. ;-) Others claim that herbal teas with even trace amounts of peppermint, chamomile, ginger, licorice root, or catnip help the stomach lining repair itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies? |
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 05:09:05 -0700 (PDT), "Dominic T."
wrote: On Oct 3, 4:54*pm, Prof Wonmug wrote: I have about 200g of Gunpowder Temple of Heaven. I generally like this tea and I think I have the brewing parameters about right (~1.5-2.0 g/cup for 4:00 at 160°F). But I've noticed that after several cups, I get a mild sensation in the back of my throat that feels more or less like heartburn. I say "more or less" because I'm on very strong prescription medication to control stomach acid, so I'm pretty sure it isn't really heartburn. I haven't had that for 20 years or so. Tea contains caffeine, which can cause a relaxation of the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) allowing stomach acid to squirt up into the esophagus. This sounds like it might be the problem. On the other hand, several web sites recommend tea to aid in digestion, especially green tea. ;-) Others claim that herbal teas with even trace amounts of peppermint, chamomile, ginger, licorice root, or catnip help the stomach lining repair itself. Is anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies? Gunpowder isn't really known for being a higher-end tea. It can be rough in a number of ways. It is often acidic and can be smoky/harsh. Unless blended for Moroccan mint, and even then it is not always pleasant. I think we all have a Temple of Heaven gunpowder box that we've purchased at some point in our early tea journey's... i think that's how they stay in business It sure isn't for the tea.Most of us stay away from the overly positive health claims made about tea, it isn't a wonderdrug, it's just like any other plant in that it may have some small trace properties that can be beneficial but it won't fix your heart, tile your bathroom, and mow the lawn as so many make such wild claims. Herbs and tea do have some subtle properties though and the ones you have mentioned are all good ones for a number of things. A great book is called "Back to Eden" and is an old book in it's umpteenth reprinting which is filled with natural cures and herbs and info. I'd say that you probably want to stick to some of the milder teas at first and get some bearing. Assam and gunpowder are like being punched in the face as far as subtlety. Try some lighter greens and oolongs, stay away from the whites and blacks right off the bat especially with these issues. Then work around and branch out. Yellow tea (light and slightly nutty), Bi Lo Chun (light and refreshing), Dragonwell (mild and chestnutty), TGY (light-to-mild and floral), Shui Xian (mild but basic), even some of the more generic "Chinese Restaurant Teas" which are Shui Xian or a similar mild oolong. There are others, in this range too, of light to mild teas that will be much better reference points. I do have several milder greens and oolongs. I haven't asked about them because I'm not having problems. ;-) I bought a couple stronger teas just for comparison. I'll add your suggestions to my list for my next order. |