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| Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water. |
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Hi,
I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that looks like this one. It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was told that this tea is usually reused at least two times. Any idea? Thanks in advance - Claudio |
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On Feb 3, 8:29*am, Claudio Telmon wrote:
Hi, I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that looks like this one. It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was told that this tea is usually reused at least two times. Any idea? Thanks in advance - Claudio It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan. You can usually infuse a good green several times. Shen |
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Shen wrote:
It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan. You can usually infuse a good green several times. Shen Thank You! I've seen this picture http://www.teaspring.com/Jin-Si-Luo.asp and it almost looks like that one. - Claudio |
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On Feb 3, 12:31*pm, Shen wrote:
On Feb 3, 8:29*am, Claudio Telmon wrote: Hi, I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that looks like this one. It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was told that this tea is usually reused at least two times. Any idea? Thanks in advance - Claudio It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan. You can usually infuse a good green several times. Shen You can also usually infuse a bad green several times, though you're less likely to want to. Toci |
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On Feb 4, 2:26*am, Claudio Telmon wrote:
Shen wrote: It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan. You can usually infuse a good green several times. Shen Thank You! I've seen this picturehttp://www.teaspring.com/Jin-Si-Luo.aspand it almost looks like that one. - Claudio If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Shen |
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Shen wrote:
If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Don't know, I've put a picture he http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001. Thanks, - Claudio |
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Claudio Telmon writes:
Shen wrote: If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Don't know, I've put a picture he http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001. I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does that characterize your tea? /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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On Feb 5, 6:31*am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Claudio Telmon writes: Shen wrote: If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Don't know, I've put a picture he http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001. I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't resemble it. *Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does that characterize your tea? /Lew --- Lew Perin / Oh, yes. Lew, I suggested that before seeing a picture. Not Kuding. (I am surprised to hear it's of the holly family. I had always thought holly toxic.) Shen |
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On Feb 5, 6:41*am, SN wrote:
that looks like it is knotted like in a braid, maybe its a sort of displaytea... Found this: http://en.restoran.ru/msk/detailed/r...nu/?half=72044 A few of these teas are described as "braided". Is this tea from China, by way of somewhere else?? " ShenCurious and curiouser." |
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Shen writes:
On Feb 5, 6:31*am, Lewis Perin wrote: [...] I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't resemble it. *Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does that characterize your tea? Oh, yes. Lew, I suggested that before seeing a picture. Not Kuding. (I am surprised to hear it's of the holly family. I had always thought holly toxic.) Holly (Ilex) is a big family. It includes maté, by the way. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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On 02/05/2008 09:31:32 Lewis Perin wrote: Shen wrote: If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Don't know, I've put a picture he http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001. I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does that characterize your tea? Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect, but in a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly bitter. Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or a different plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly identical. Having said that, I'll go look at the picture as science requires. Michael |
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Michael Plant writes:
On 02/05/2008 09:31:32 Lewis Perin wrote: Shen wrote: If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") - bitter. Don't know, I've put a picture he http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001. I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does that characterize your tea? Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect, but in a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly bitter. Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or a different plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly identical. Having said that, I'll go look at the picture as science requires. Michael Right, I've had it in this form too. I find it puzzling that kudingcha exists in two such radically different configurations. But real tea has lots of puzzlements too, and I suppose I prefer to spend my attention on good old C. sinensis. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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Shen wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:41 am, SN wrote: that looks like it is knotted like in a braid, maybe its a sort of displaytea... Found this: http://en.restoran.ru/msk/detailed/r...nu/?half=72044 A few of these teas are described as "braided". Is this tea from China, by way of somewhere else?? I've added some more picturese he http://www.telmon.org/tea As you can see, it's not a braid, the small piece is hollow. It is as if the rolled leaf had been bended around a stick to form a spiral, and then the stem is put in the hole that is left when the stick is removed. No, the tea was not bitter at all, it tastes like... well, like a good green tea, but I'm not an expert ![]() I purchased the tea in Shanghai in 2001. I asked to my guide for a place where I could see the "tea ceremony" (I knew about the japanese tea ceremony, but I was told there was something "similar" in China too), so we went to a tea shop, were I was shown how to taste tea... you know better than me. There, I purchased this strange tea and another one. I think I've found the original box, I've put a picture of it too (the number on the box is 010-64295788). Thanks again, - Claudio |
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Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect, but in a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly bitter. Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or a different plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly identical. Having said that, I'll go look at the picture as science requires. Michael Right, I've had it in this form too. I find it puzzling that kudingcha exists in two such radically different configurations. But real tea has lots of puzzlements too, and I suppose I prefer to spend my attention on good old C. sinensis. Likwise. Agreed. I got it in a neighborhood teashop that didn't quite hit the mark, but deserved support nonetheless. Unfortunately, they quickly went out of business. Such is life in Brooklyn. Michael |