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Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Old 03-02-2008, 04:29 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Claudio Telmon
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Hi,
I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai
some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that
looks like this one.
It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a
cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a
spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green
tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was
told that this tea is usually reused at least two times.
Any idea?

Thanks in advance

- Claudio
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Old 03-02-2008, 06:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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On Feb 3, 8:29*am, Claudio Telmon wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai
some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that
looks like this one.
It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a
cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a
spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green
tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was
told that this tea is usually reused at least two times.
Any idea?

Thanks in advance

- Claudio


It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin
Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan.
You can usually infuse a good green several times.
Shen
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:26 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Claudio Telmon
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Shen wrote:

It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin
Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan.
You can usually infuse a good green several times.
Shen


Thank You!
I've seen this picture http://www.teaspring.com/Jin-Si-Luo.asp and
it almost looks like that one.

- Claudio
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:44 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Feb 3, 12:31*pm, Shen wrote:
On Feb 3, 8:29*am, Claudio Telmon wrote:

Hi,
I'm looking for the name of a "strange" tea I purchased in Shanghai
some years ago. I've searched the Internet but can't find a tea that
looks like this one.
It seems to be a single big leaf of green tea, rolled to make a
cilinder of 0,5 cm of diameter, which is then bended to form a
spiral approx. 5 cm long and 1,5 cm thick. I think it was a green
tea, although the two leaves I still own have turned brownish. I was
told that this tea is usually reused at least two times.
Any idea?


Thanks in advance


- Claudio


It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin
Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan.
You can usually infuse a good green several times.
Shen


You can also usually infuse a bad green several times, though you're
less likely to want to. Toci
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Old 04-02-2008, 10:44 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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On Feb 4, 2:26*am, Claudio Telmon wrote:
Shen wrote:
It's most likely Bi Luo Chun. If it is a longer leaf, it could be Jin
Si Luo or rolled into a ring, Nu Er Huan.
You can usually infuse a good green several times.
Shen


Thank You!
I've seen this picturehttp://www.teaspring.com/Jin-Si-Luo.aspand
it almost looks like that one.

- Claudio


If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea")
- bitter.
Shen
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Old 05-02-2008, 08:37 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Claudio Telmon
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Shen wrote:

If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea")
- bitter.


Don't know, I've put a picture he
http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG
Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001.

Thanks,

- Claudio
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Claudio Telmon writes:

Shen wrote:

If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea")
- bitter.


Don't know, I've put a picture he
http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG
Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001.


I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't
resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true
tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter.
Does that characterize your tea?

/Lew
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Old 05-02-2008, 02:41 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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that looks like it is knotted like in a braid,

maybe its a sort of display tea...
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:15 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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On Feb 5, 6:31*am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Claudio Telmon writes:
Shen wrote:


If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea")
- bitter.


Don't know, I've put a picture he
http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG
Remember it's an old leaf, I purchased it in 2001.


I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't
resemble it. *Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true
tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter.
Does that characterize your tea?

/Lew
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Lew Perin /


Oh, yes. Lew, I suggested that before seeing a picture.
Not Kuding.
(I am surprised to hear it's of the holly family. I had always thought
holly toxic.)
Shen
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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On Feb 5, 6:41*am, SN wrote:
that looks like it is knotted like in a braid,

maybe its a sort of displaytea...


Found this: http://en.restoran.ru/msk/detailed/r...nu/?half=72044

A few of these teas are described as "braided".
Is this tea from China, by way of somewhere else??

"
ShenCurious and curiouser."
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Old 05-02-2008, 05:56 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Shen writes:

On Feb 5, 6:31*am, Lewis Perin wrote:
[...]
I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't
resemble it. *Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true
tea but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter.
Does that characterize your tea?


Oh, yes. Lew, I suggested that before seeing a picture.
Not Kuding.
(I am surprised to hear it's of the holly family. I had always thought
holly toxic.)


Holly (Ilex) is a big family. It includes maté, by the way.

/Lew
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Old 06-02-2008, 12:25 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Michael Plant
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On 02/05/2008 09:31:32 Lewis Perin wrote:

Shen wrote:


If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") -
bitter.


Don't know, I've put a picture he
http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I
purchased it in 2001.


I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't
resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea
but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does
that characterize your tea?



Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect, but in a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly bitter. Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or a different plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly identical. Having said that, I'll go look at the picture as science requires.
Michael
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:24 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Michael Plant writes:

On 02/05/2008 09:31:32 Lewis Perin wrote:

Shen wrote:


If it's darker (nearly black), it could be Kudding ( a healing "tea") -
bitter.


Don't know, I've put a picture he
http://www.telmon.org/tea/IMG_1520.JPG Remember it's an old leaf, I
purchased it in 2001.


I understand why Shen suggested Kudingcha, but this picture doesn't
resemble it. Besides, Kudingcha (which isn't a Camellia sinensis true tea
but rather a member of the holly family) tastes extremely bitter. Does
that characterize your tea?



Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect,
but in a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly
bitter. Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or
a different plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly
identical. Having said that, I'll go look at the picture as science
requires. Michael


Right, I've had it in this form too. I find it puzzling that
kudingcha exists in two such radically different configurations. But
real tea has lots of puzzlements too, and I suppose I prefer to spend
my attention on good old C. sinensis.

/Lew
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Old 06-02-2008, 05:36 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Claudio Telmon
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Shen wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:41 am, SN wrote:
that looks like it is knotted like in a braid,

maybe its a sort of displaytea...


Found this: http://en.restoran.ru/msk/detailed/r...nu/?half=72044

A few of these teas are described as "braided".
Is this tea from China, by way of somewhere else??


I've added some more picturese he
http://www.telmon.org/tea

As you can see, it's not a braid, the small piece is hollow. It is
as if the rolled leaf had been bended around a stick to form a
spiral, and then the stem is put in the hole that is left when the
stick is removed. No, the tea was not bitter at all, it tastes
like... well, like a good green tea, but I'm not an expert

I purchased the tea in Shanghai in 2001. I asked to my guide for a
place where I could see the "tea ceremony" (I knew about the
japanese tea ceremony, but I was told there was something "similar"
in China too), so we went to a tea shop, were I was shown how to
taste tea... you know better than me. There, I purchased this
strange tea and another one. I think I've found the original box,
I've put a picture of it too (the number on the box is 010-64295788).

Thanks again,

- Claudio
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:45 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Michael Plant
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Lew, I have drunk kundingcha not rolled leaf as you would expect, but in
a very Bi Lo Chun like small snaily twist. It was properly bitter.
Whether this is another form of processing the same plant or a different
plant entirely I know not, but the taste was nearly identical. Having
said that, I'll go look at the picture as science requires. Michael


Right, I've had it in this form too. I find it puzzling that kudingcha
exists in two such radically different configurations. But real tea has
lots of puzzlements too, and I suppose I prefer to spend my attention on
good old C. sinensis.


Likwise. Agreed. I got it in a neighborhood teashop that didn't quite hit the mark, but deserved support nonetheless. Unfortunately, they quickly went out of business. Such is life in Brooklyn.
Michael
 




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