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| Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water. |
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Dear Tea lovers,
Organic Teas are a sensitive matter. While the well to do estates convert to Organic even at the cost of losing harvest, and subsequently get premium prices, sometimes even for the Teas which are poor on the palate; there are some estates which are automatically Organic as they do not have money even to pay the wages of their workers ... let alone use fertilizers and pesticides / weedicides. Its a pity and its a paradox. At http://teaunlimited.blogspot.com/ an article has been posted - which may I request the lovers to read and comment upon. Regards, Jayesh S Pandya. |
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On Jan 28, 7:56*am, teapandya wrote:
Dear Tea lovers, Organic Teas are a sensitive matter. While the well to do estates convert to Organic even at the cost of losing harvest, and subsequently get premium prices, sometimes even for the Teas which are poor on the palate; there are some estates which are automatically Organic as they do not have money even to pay the wages of their workers ... let alone use fertilizers and pesticides / weedicides. Its a pity and its a paradox. Athttp://teaunlimited.blogspot.com/an article has been posted - which may I request the lovers to read and comment upon. Regards, Jayesh S Pandya. Blended teas are safer? Toci |
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On Jan 28, 9:52*pm, toci wrote:
On Jan 28, 7:56*am, teapandya wrote: Dear Tea lovers, Organic Teas are a sensitive matter. While the well to do estates convert to Organic even at the cost of losing harvest, and subsequently get premium prices, sometimes even for the Teas which are poor on the palate; there are some estates which are automatically Organic as they do not have money even to pay the wages of their workers ... let alone use fertilizers and pesticides / weedicides. Its a pity and its a paradox. Athttp://teaunlimited.blogspot.com/anarticle has been posted - which may I request the lovers to read and comment upon. Regards, Jayesh S Pandya. Blended teas are safer? * * Toci Dear Toci, Yes, blended Teas are indeed far more safer than Single estate teas, unless procured from a very reliable source. The more the number of estates / lots / invoices ... the safer they tend to get, by the law of averages. Residue levels of pesticides can sway wildly in case of Single estate harvests, but would remain fairly constant, and usually within limits, in case of (properly) Blended Teas. In fact a master blender would take care to mix as many teas as possible, while invariably attaining his standards. This will not only ensure safety, but also provide uniqueness which cannot easily be replicated. The organoleptic proof is in the increased roundness of the liqours of blended teas. Regards, Jayesh S Pandya. |
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As do many organic protagonists Jayesh overstates his case. He
maintains "Avoid First Flush Teas. During the months of dormancy, the bushes go through a lot of stress ... Frost, Drought, Aphids et al. So to sustain the plants, a lot of Pesticides +Muriate of Potash + Di Ammonium Phosphate + Sulphur is sprayed. There being no harvest, the plant can not digest / metabolise these chemicals. It all builds up ....." While agreeing on minimizing pesticides, I can see no harm in Muriate of Potash - this is KCl (potassium chloride) the second most abundant salt in human blood and without which you die. It is the principle ingredient in the life saving salt replacement packs given out in their millions by WHO to mother whose sick kids would otherwise die from diarrhoea. Nor can I fault Di Ammonium Phosphate - a pretty innocuous compound whose essential ions are found in all fertile soils be they 'organic' or not. And (last time I checked) elemental Sulfur is accepted as 'organic' by IFOAM the HQ agency that certifies all the organic certifiers. Nigel at Teacraft On Jan 28, 1:56*pm, teapandya wrote: At http://teaunlimited.blogspot.com/an article has been posted - which may I request the lovers to read and comment upon. |
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On Feb 4, 3:57 pm, Nigel wrote:
As do many organic protagonists Jayesh overstates his case. He maintains "Avoid First Flush Teas. During the months of dormancy, the bushes go through a lot of stress ... Frost, Drought, Aphids et al. So to sustain the plants, a lot of Pesticides +Muriate of Potash + Di Ammonium Phosphate + Sulphur is sprayed. There being no harvest, the plant can not digest / metabolise these chemicals. It all builds up ....." While agreeing on minimizing pesticides, I can see no harm in Muriate of Potash - this is KCl (potassium chloride) the second most abundant salt in human blood and without which you die. It is the principle ingredient in the life saving salt replacement packs given out in their millions by WHO to mother whose sick kids would otherwise die from diarrhoea. Nor can I fault Di Ammonium Phosphate - a pretty innocuous compound whose essential ions are found in all fertile soils be they 'organic' or not. And (last time I checked) elemental Sulfur is accepted as 'organic' by IFOAM the HQ agency that certifies all the organic certifiers. Nigel at Teacraft On Jan 28, 1:56 pm, teapandya wrote: Athttp://teaunlimited.blogspot.com/anarticle has been posted - which may I request the lovers to read and comment upon. The article does run counter to intuition as anyone with experience of tasting single estate tea would know that the First Flush are of the highest quality. Contaminants do not tend to matter in "tippy" tea such as the green, white, yellow and even some of the red, black and pu-erh (those made of tea shoots) simply because the leaves harvested are so damned young. Environmental chemicals increase exponentially with leaf age, so different plant parts would have different levels of environmental chemicals. The problem of organic certification is that (A) it doesn't mean it is the highest quality and (B) it can be easily manipulated, not just in China and India, but all over the third world countries. There are good and bad organic teas. The issue lies with the trustworthiness of your home country tea vendors - who do they prefer to deal with? Julian http://www.amazing-green-tea.com |