Bluesea wrote:
He drinks it for the flavor and because it's inexpensive. He nukes it
because he's lazy and doesn't believe that there's a good reason for
preparing tea properly; he claims that there isn't such a thing as properly
prepared tea. He's well-aware of the directions on the box, but says since
his method works for him and so many other microwave-brewers, it's the
proper method. He doesn't want to try another tea or fresh, loose leaf tea
because he's happy with what he has. He said that boiling water on the stove
uses more electricity and dirties a pan unnecessarily (yes, I asked how bad
is his water, anyway, if boiling water dirties the pan).

He says that he's tried many teas in the past, many of which were exotic
teas from friends, and he doesn't like anything that isn't a regular tea.
"Exotic" is anything that doesn't taste like Lipton. "Regular" tea is what
restaurants serve, like Lipton. Tea made for him by friends in their homes
tasted like limp cardboard - I told him that's what stale tea tastes like -
he wasn't moved.

Comparing loose leaf and teabags to fresh vegetables and canned, he said
that canned vegetables taste good, too.

You can lead a horse to water, but if he don't wanna, he won't.

Just out of curiousity, if he's happy with what he has, why try to
change him? I'm not trying to be difficult, just wondering. He sounds
like my father, whom I could never convince to try one of my many
recommendations, he is set in his ways.

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"War" wrote in message
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Bluesea wrote:
He drinks it for the flavor and because it's inexpensive. He nukes it
because he's lazy and doesn't believe that there's a good reason for
preparing tea properly; he claims that there isn't such a thing as
properly
prepared tea. He's well-aware of the directions on the box, but says
since
his method works for him and so many other microwave-brewers, it's the
proper method. He doesn't want to try another tea or fresh, loose leaf
tea
because he's happy with what he has. He said that boiling water on the
stove
uses more electricity and dirties a pan unnecessarily (yes, I asked how
bad
is his water, anyway, if boiling water dirties the pan).

He says that he's tried many teas in the past, many of which were exotic
teas from friends, and he doesn't like anything that isn't a regular
tea.
"Exotic" is anything that doesn't taste like Lipton. "Regular" tea is
what
restaurants serve, like Lipton. Tea made for him by friends in their
homes
tasted like limp cardboard - I told him that's what stale tea tastes
like -
he wasn't moved.

Comparing loose leaf and teabags to fresh vegetables and canned, he said
that canned vegetables taste good, too.

You can lead a horse to water, but if he don't wanna, he won't.

Just out of curiousity, if he's happy with what he has, why try to
change him? I'm not trying to be difficult, just wondering. He sounds
like my father, whom I could never convince to try one of my many
recommendations, he is set in his ways.

Well, I'm not trying anymore - that's over and done with because you can't
make a horse drink the water to which you've led him.

It started because he's interested in buying a filtering water pitcher and
mentioned he's curious about how it will affect the taste of his tea. Along
with my positive attitude about the pitcher, I asked if he's ever had fresh,
loose tea. When I posted my OP, I thought I needed only to find a comparable
loose tea for him. At that point, I had been told only what kind of tea he
liked and how he prepared it; it was the same that others I had converted to
loose tea had told me.

Over this past weekend, I learned the rest. In his favor, he boiled water on
the stove, complaining about dirtying the pan he used to boil the water and
the saucer used to cover his mug during steeping. He steeped the teabag for
only 3 minutes because of a communication glitch instead of continuing to
taste-test the brew at 30 second intervals until he liked the strength or 5
minutes whichever came first as I had instructed. After steeping, he added
his usual amount of sugar and tasted it, complaining that it was too weak.
He said that his experiment proved that the proper method of brewing tea
wasn't any good because the tea came out weak, therefore his method is the
proper one because his tea comes out better. I LOL'd and said it proved only
that he couldn't follow directions, but it's his choice and he's free to
continue brewing as he wants.

Now that I know more about his history with tea, I wish he had told me all
that up front so I could have saved myself and the members of this ng the
time. I kind of feel like he was stringing me along because he was also
trying to get me to try his tea although I told him from the get-go that I
never did like Lipton.

My reply to MarshalN was the outcome report that some had requested and this
post adds more. There's a lot more that went on that doesn't need to get
posted, but I drilled into him that good tea + good water + temperature +
time yield the best beverage and compromising on all points = less than the
best he could get. With a filtering pitcher, he should get better tea even
if he doesn't change anything else.


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Interesting to me that he's so curious about how filtering the water
will change the taste of the tea, but isn't open to the idea of
letting the tea itself or his method of brewing change the taste.
Maybe he's worried that the filtered water will make it taste worse?

Anyway, if he's happy with it, then it's the right way for him.

Alan

Bluesea wrote:
"War" wrote in message
...
Bluesea wrote:
He drinks it for the flavor and because it's inexpensive. He nukes it
because he's lazy and doesn't believe that there's a good reason for
preparing tea properly; he claims that there isn't such a thing as
properly
prepared tea. He's well-aware of the directions on the box, but says
since
his method works for him and so many other microwave-brewers, it's the
proper method. He doesn't want to try another tea or fresh, loose leaf
tea
because he's happy with what he has. He said that boiling water on the
stove
uses more electricity and dirties a pan unnecessarily (yes, I asked how
bad
is his water, anyway, if boiling water dirties the pan).

He says that he's tried many teas in the past, many of which were exotic
teas from friends, and he doesn't like anything that isn't a regular
tea.
"Exotic" is anything that doesn't taste like Lipton. "Regular" tea is
what
restaurants serve, like Lipton. Tea made for him by friends in their
homes
tasted like limp cardboard - I told him that's what stale tea tastes
like -
he wasn't moved.

Comparing loose leaf and teabags to fresh vegetables and canned, he said
that canned vegetables taste good, too.

You can lead a horse to water, but if he don't wanna, he won't.

Just out of curiousity, if he's happy with what he has, why try to
change him? I'm not trying to be difficult, just wondering. He sounds
like my father, whom I could never convince to try one of my many
recommendations, he is set in his ways.

Well, I'm not trying anymore - that's over and done with because you can't
make a horse drink the water to which you've led him.

It started because he's interested in buying a filtering water pitcher and
mentioned he's curious about how it will affect the taste of his tea. Along
with my positive attitude about the pitcher, I asked if he's ever had fresh,
loose tea. When I posted my OP, I thought I needed only to find a comparable
loose tea for him. At that point, I had been told only what kind of tea he
liked and how he prepared it; it was the same that others I had converted to
loose tea had told me.

Over this past weekend, I learned the rest. In his favor, he boiled water on
the stove, complaining about dirtying the pan he used to boil the water and
the saucer used to cover his mug during steeping. He steeped the teabag for
only 3 minutes because of a communication glitch instead of continuing to
taste-test the brew at 30 second intervals until he liked the strength or 5
minutes whichever came first as I had instructed. After steeping, he added
his usual amount of sugar and tasted it, complaining that it was too weak.
He said that his experiment proved that the proper method of brewing tea
wasn't any good because the tea came out weak, therefore his method is the
proper one because his tea comes out better. I LOL'd and said it proved only
that he couldn't follow directions, but it's his choice and he's free to
continue brewing as he wants.

Now that I know more about his history with tea, I wish he had told me all
that up front so I could have saved myself and the members of this ng the
time. I kind of feel like he was stringing me along because he was also
trying to get me to try his tea although I told him from the get-go that I
never did like Lipton.

My reply to MarshalN was the outcome report that some had requested and this
post adds more. There's a lot more that went on that doesn't need to get
posted, but I drilled into him that good tea + good water + temperature +
time yield the best beverage and compromising on all points = less than the
best he could get. With a filtering pitcher, he should get better tea even
if he doesn't change anything else.


Well, plenty of folks are happy with Bud and Pabst Blue Ribbon, but
personally, I don't consider that stuff beer, so it carries over to all
foods I guess

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"Alan" wrote in message
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Interesting to me that he's so curious about how filtering the water
will change the taste of the tea, but isn't open to the idea of
letting the tea itself or his method of brewing change the taste.
Maybe he's worried that the filtered water will make it taste worse?

That didn't occur to me because he's hoping the pitcher will get him to
drink more plain water. When I told him nobody I know prefers plain tap
water to filtered, he didn't comment. He has to try the water himself,
anyway.

Anyway, if he's happy with it, then it's the right way for him.

I told him at the beginning that if he didn't want to try, it was his choice
and I meant it. I'm just surprised we went as far as we did only to hit the
wall. Usually, when I encounter microwave-brewers who don't want to try
anything else, I know from the beginning to leave them alone.

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"War" wrote in message
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Well, plenty of folks are happy with Bud and Pabst Blue Ribbon, but
personally, I don't consider that stuff beer, so it carries over to all
foods I guess

LOL.

Thanks, everyone, for your responses.


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