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Old 06-11-2007, 02:30 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..

I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.

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Old 06-11-2007, 04:18 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:
My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..

I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


Some teas can be slightly cloudy. Do you know how to brew green
tea? What is the name of tea, what did it say on the package? Is
it loose leaf? Did you use lower temp than boiling? Did you use good,
spring water? dr.evil Need the info!

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Old 06-11-2007, 05:53 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 5, 11:18 pm, wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:

My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..


I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


Some teas can be slightly cloudy. Do you know how to brew green
tea? What is the name of tea, what did it say on the package? Is
it loose leaf? Did you use lower temp than boiling? Did you use good,
spring water? dr.evil Need the info!


Yes, I know how to brew green tea. It's called Ahmad Tea - London,
Original Green tea. On the side it says "a selection of the finest
quality green china leaves, including Chun Me."...the rest of it is in
Russian.

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8 oz
water. Depending on how it tastes, I'll increase or decrease the
steep time. Sometimes I'll vary the amount of loose leaf tea, but
very rarely. I use filtered cold water, and use an Ingenuitea to brew
my tea.

Any way I brew it, it's cloudy and odd tasting. It came in a 100g
sealed package.

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Old 06-11-2007, 01:23 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 6, 5:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:18 pm, wrote:

On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:


My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..


I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


Some teas can be slightly cloudy. Do you know how to brew green
tea? What is the name of tea, what did it say on the package? Is
it loose leaf? Did you use lower temp than boiling? Did you use good,
spring water? dr.evil Need the info!


Yes, I know how to brew green tea. It's called Ahmad Tea - London,
Original Green tea. On the side it says "a selection of the finest
quality green china leaves, including Chun Me."...the rest of it is in
Russian.

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8 oz
water. Depending on how it tastes, I'll increase or decrease the
steep time. Sometimes I'll vary the amount of loose leaf tea, but
very rarely. I use filtered cold water, and use an Ingenuitea to brew
my tea.

Any way I brew it, it's cloudy and odd tasting. It came in a 100g
sealed package.


I thought you might be sharing some russian tea ... I am very curious
about it ,...

I don't think there is anything wrong with cloudy per se, but low
transparency does mean low quality. Has it become mouldy? If it tastes
odd after some experimentation, I will leave it alone. After all, we
need to take care of our body.

Anyone knows about Chun Me? It sounds to me it is an eyebrow tea.
Chinese green tea can be classified into 3 broad categories: eyebrow
tea, gunpowder tea and then the specialties such as longjing,
biluochun etc.

Julian
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:54 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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juliantai writes:

On Nov 6, 5:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:18 pm, wrote:

[...dodgy green tea bought in Russia...]


I don't think there is anything wrong with cloudy per se, but low
transparency does mean low quality.


I'm afraid you're forgetting that it can also be a sign of *high*
quality when the opacity comes from the little "hairs" on buds and
young leaves. (Though that isn't too likely in a generic tea, I
suppose.)

[...]

Anyone knows about Chun Me? It sounds to me it is an eyebrow tea.


I would guess it's the eyebrow tea whose usual romanization is Zhen Mei.

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Old 06-11-2007, 04:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:
On Nov 5, 11:18 pm, wrote:

On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:


My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..


I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


Some teas can be slightly cloudy. Do you know how to brew green
tea? What is the name of tea, what did it say on the package? Is
it loose leaf? Did you use lower temp than boiling? Did you use good,
spring water? dr.evil Need the info!


Yes, I know how to brew green tea. It's called Ahmad Tea - London,
Original Green tea. On the side it says "a selection of the finest
quality green china leaves, including Chun Me."...the rest of it is in
Russian.


From what I've heard Ahmad is supposed to be bad. They are the

the cheap brand that you can buy in many groceries. Have you
tried green teas with a very strong vegetal taste like chun me before?
If not, it could be that it's just a cheap green tea, too astringent
to
be tasty. If you only used finer green teas like long jing, a cheap
strong-tasting one will be very different. But it could also be that
the tea is indeed bad. Either way I wouldn't drink a cheap green
tea. Cheap black tea is not so bad sometimes, but for my taste
green tea should be at least medium grade.

Did you try cheap green gunpowder tea? I think it will also normally
be cloudy.


I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8 oz
water. Depending on how it tastes, I'll increase or decrease the
steep time. Sometimes I'll vary the amount of loose leaf tea, but
very rarely. I use filtered cold water, and use an Ingenuitea to brew
my tea.


That sounds right. It's either just a cheap low quality tea or it
turned
bad. Either way if you have better teas available, I'd throw it away.
The tea being in russian packaging doesn't mean anything. They
probably pack it in china using the same leaves for all countries
using appropriate carton boxes.


Any way I brew it, it's cloudy and odd tasting. It came in a 100g
sealed package.





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Old 07-11-2007, 08:10 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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I'm afraid you're forgetting that it can also be a sign of *high*
quality when the opacity comes from the little "hairs" on buds and
young leaves. (Though that isn't too likely in a generic tea, I
suppose.)


That's a different type of cloudy that is usually associated with teas
that most people can't get their hands on. Longjing, some HuangShan
teas, Biluochun, Zhuyeqing and Qieshe high grades have these small
"hairs"; all greens. The OP describes what sounds to me to be some
bargin bin stuff that can be picked up at any Chinatown.

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Old 07-11-2007, 03:21 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:
My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..

I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


My experience has been that Ahmed tea is generally of secondary if not
tertiary quality. Not a huge experience, but I only see it in the US
in bargain outlets and discount stores.

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Old 07-11-2007, 04:02 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On 2007-11-07, alpinelady wrote:
My experience has been that Ahmed tea is generally of secondary if not
tertiary quality. Not a huge experience, but I only see it in the US
in bargain outlets and discount stores.


Their Ceylon is quite drinkable; nice looking leaves, strong yet
flavorful liquor. Drank a pot of it the day before yesterday.
(Today I'm having Harney & Sons' keemun mao feng; a step up, to be
sure. But I like the Ahmad, too.)


N.
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:22 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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alpinelady wrote:
On Nov 5, 9:30 pm, Tea Sunrise wrote:
My parents got me some green tea from Russia. It was sealed, but when
I made it, it turned out cloudy. It didn't taste that good either.
Does cloudy tea mean that there's something wrong with the tea? I
drink from a glass which is how I can notice these things ..

I just hope they didn't spend a lot on it. It was just a little box
thank goodness.


My experience has been that Ahmed tea is generally of secondary if not
tertiary quality. Not a huge experience, but I only see it in the US
in bargain outlets and discount stores.


Well, it's mostly blended for the middle eastern market... and I see it
in the US in places that sell to middle easterners. I agree that it's
not particularly good tea although their ceylon blacks are drinkable and
cheap.
--scott
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Old 20-11-2007, 06:45 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8 oz
water.


That sounds right.


Assuming that Bernard meant one TEASPOON, right?

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Old 20-11-2007, 07:11 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Bluesea" writes:

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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8 oz
water.


That sounds right.


Assuming that Bernard meant one TEASPOON, right?


Depends on the tea. A teaspoon might be too much with CTC tea, and a
level tablespoon might be too little with Yunnan big-leaf maocha. I
know this has been said before, but rules of thumb for brewing
proportions really make sense only when the leaves are measured by
*weight*.

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Old 21-11-2007, 01:56 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at 180-185F in 8

oz
water.

That sounds right.


Assuming that Bernard meant one TEASPOON, right?


Depends on the tea. A teaspoon might be too much with CTC tea, and a
level tablespoon might be too little with Yunnan big-leaf maocha. I
know this has been said before, but rules of thumb for brewing
proportions really make sense only when the leaves are measured by
*weight*.


Yes, of course, and I use a scale for those that can't fit neatly in my
measure, but for the Ahmad tea under question?

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Old 21-11-2007, 03:50 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Bluesea" writes:

"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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"Bluesea" writes:

wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at
180-185F in 8 oz water.

That sounds right.

Assuming that Bernard meant one TEASPOON, right?


Depends on the tea. A teaspoon might be too much with CTC tea, and a
level tablespoon might be too little with Yunnan big-leaf maocha. I
know this has been said before, but rules of thumb for brewing
proportions really make sense only when the leaves are measured by
*weight*.


Yes, of course, and I use a scale for those that can't fit neatly in my
measure, but for the Ahmad tea under question?


Uh, I don't know, as I haven't seen it, much less weighed it. I hope
I'm not being a pest, but there's probably a wide variation in density
even among teas the fit neatly in your measure. Typically CTC tea is
much denser than, say, BOP, let alone whole leaf.

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Old 21-11-2007, 06:33 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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"Lewis Perin" wrote in message
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"Bluesea" writes:

wrote in message
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On Nov 6, 12:53 am, Tea Sunrise wrote:

I usually start using one tablespoon for 3 minutes at
180-185F in 8 oz water.

That sounds right.

Assuming that Bernard meant one TEASPOON, right?

Depends on the tea. A teaspoon might be too much with CTC tea, and a
level tablespoon might be too little with Yunnan big-leaf maocha. I
know this has been said before, but rules of thumb for brewing
proportions really make sense only when the leaves are measured by
*weight*.


Yes, of course, and I use a scale for those that can't fit neatly in my
measure, but for the Ahmad tea under question?


Uh, I don't know, as I haven't seen it, much less weighed it. I hope
I'm not being a pest, but there's probably a wide variation in density
even among teas the fit neatly in your measure. Typically CTC tea is
much denser than, say, BOP, let alone whole leaf.


Yes, of course. I agree with you 100%.

However, back to the Ahmad - somehow I got the impression that it is a tea
that doesn't have to be weighed for making the best brew, but now that I
think about it, how much does quantity contribute to cloudiness? I have no
idea because I can't recall ever having to use such a large amount as 1
tablespoon per 8 oz. I'm thinking that such a ratio indicates a lot of air
in the measuring spoon in which case, I'd be using a scale as my measuring
instrument if only to keep the tea from falling out of a spoon onto the
counter and maybe even gasp! the floor.

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