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I've updated my blog with my notes from the last of the greens from my
last order from teaspring, and as I promised, I'm posting them here as well. I realized I left out a couple things from my writings on this tea, so I'll add them in here. I forgot to say that I get 2-3 really solid brewings from the leaf, and also that while I did touch on the wild variation in brewing I failed to state that it never becomes bitter no matter what is done to it. OK, so on to my thoughts: The final green from my most recent order is Tai Ping Hou Kui. TPHK is a very long flat-pressed leaf that is very different from many teas of any type. The initial hit from the smell of the dry leaf is strange, it's hard to really put a finger on. My best single description is vegetal. But there is much more in there, almost too much to properly separate the smells out for accurate description. My first brewing followed suit and I was actually unsure of anything. It didn't help that I used my little glass teapot that I bought for artistic teas, which doesn't get much use by me. I used it so I could get the long leaves into the post without disturbing them. The teapot has a thin rim of plastic and a plastic lid with a huge stainless- steel mesh basket that would allow you to fill the entire teapot with leaf if you wanted to. Anyone who knows me, knows I don't allow two materials near my tea brewing: Metal and Plastic. I only went with this teapot because the "plastic" is actually nylon and it was highly recommended by a close friend. The reason for that aside about the teapot was that I thought I could taste plastic in the first and second brewing, and it put me off. I switched over to a larger gaiwan of mine and the flavor persisted even with new leaf. I realized that the flavor was not that of plastic but some sort of roasted flavor from the tea. Now, I'm not sure if just the thought of the plastic taste tainted my view right off the bat, but it took me about 7 or 8 brewings to get past it... and that is why it took me this long to cover it. I'm still on the fence with this one. Again, yes, it is a highly prized and unique tea, but is it a favorite or an amazing standout? Not quite. I'd take my Huo Mountain Yellow or Teaspring's Bi Lo Chun in a heartbeat over it. I do get the nutty and slightly sweet flavors but I do not ever experience the flowery notes they describe on their site. It is a complex flavor though and varies wildly based on the brewing so I'm not ruling out that I may get it to appear yet. I've found that a medium amount of leaf with a bit hotter water than normal for greens is my personal sweet spot. Just as in the initial smell, there is a lot going on with this tea, and that may appeal to many but for me it is just too much to really enjoy. It's kind of like a treasure hunt where you could almost taste anything you can think of during each sip; charcoal, plastic, nut, sweet, sour, citrus, and what may be the strangest notion I've ever had with tea: Roast Beef. Yep. Roast beef. I have had this thought on more than one occasion while drinking this tea and while it may seem farcical I promise you it is there. This tea has been an enigma from the first opening, it has taken me from plastic to roast beef and all points in between (of which there are quite a few). I'd say I got my money's worth just in the adventure with this one. Would I place it in my personal 10 famous teas? No. Would I ever crave it? No. Can I understand the allure? No. But it is interesting, unique, very different, and a great singular experience? Yep. |
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I've given up on trying to rank teas. These days I am into sexy leaf
since I drink off the top in a double walled thermo glass. This one sounds like it fits the bill. I rather have one sitting on my shelf that I rarely drink than not. I wished I had put this one on my look for list on my recent trip to SF Chinatown. My only reget I never tried a hot pot. Jim PS Those self cleaning toilets downtown are a technological wonder. The bums don't even have to use the toilet. Nasty if the next cleaning cycle is after you. I was always hopping a trolly to the Ferry building. Dominic T. wrote: This tea has been an enigma from the first opening, it has taken me from plastic to roast beef and all points in between (of which there are quite a few). I'd say I got my money's worth just in the adventure with this one. Would I place it in my personal 10 famous teas? No. Would I ever crave it? No. Can I understand the allure? No. But it is interesting, unique, very different, and a great singular experience? Yep. |
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Space Cowboy writes:
I've given up on trying to rank teas. These days I am into sexy leaf since I drink off the top in a double walled thermo glass. If you've used yours for a while and it still doesn't leak, please tell where you got it from! /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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9oz Bodum Pavina double wall thermo glass. Religiously for the past
couple of months, knock, knock. They come as a pair with a retail of $15. I got mine at a discount. Jim Lewis Perin wrote: Space Cowboy writes: I've given up on trying to rank teas. These days I am into sexy leaf since I drink off the top in a double walled thermo glass. If you've used yours for a while and it still doesn't leak, please tell where you got it from! /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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On Sep 26, 9:43 am, Space Cowboy wrote:
I've given up on trying to rank teas. These days I am into sexy leaf since I drink off the top in a double walled thermo glass. This one sounds like it fits the bill. I rather have one sitting on my shelf that I rarely drink than not. I wished I had put this one on my look for list on my recent trip to SF Chinatown. My only reget I never tried a hot pot. Jim PS Those self cleaning toilets downtown are a technological wonder. The bums don't even have to use the toilet. Nasty if the next cleaning cycle is after you. I was always hopping a trolly to the Ferry building. I agree, my aim isn't to really "rank" teas but to cover some of the different teas from the different vendors we talk about often here so that people have some sort of reference or starting point if they are new to tea. I'll never assign points or a rating scale, and it is always just my personal taste and opinions... I'd happily welcome others to either reply in the comments of my site or even in response to the simulpost here of their thoughts, notes, and experiences with any of the teas/vendors. And, you missed out if you didn't try hot pot... it's a great thing. I've yet to find a place in Da 'Burgh that offers it. I have had a great Sichuan hot oil thing though that was amazing, and if you're ever in town there's a great place called Sushi Kim with true Korean food that brings tears of joy to my eyes each time I go. - Dominic /as for the TPHK, I still can't really get into it and I almost have to force myself to continue drinking it until it is gone. It is certainly a sexy leaf though. |
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Space Cowboy writes:
Lewis Perin wrote: Space Cowboy writes: I've given up on trying to rank teas. These days I am into sexy leaf since I drink off the top in a double walled thermo glass. If you've used yours for a while and it still doesn't leak, please tell where you got it from! 9oz Bodum Pavina double wall thermo glass. Religiously for the past couple of months, knock, knock. They come as a pair with a retail of $15. I got mine at a discount. Oh, I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about those Chinese tea jars that you can carry around with you on the subway or wherever. The one I bought at a bricks-and-mortar in New York's Chinatown leaked after a few weeks. Bodum Pavina sure is nice in its place, though. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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On 2007-09-26, Space Cowboy wrote:
9oz Bodum Pavina double wall thermo glass. Religiously for the past couple of months, knock, knock. They come as a pair with a retail of $15. I got mine at a discount. They do rock; I got a pair that eventually broke; so I bought another. Beautiful cups. N. |
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Lew,
What should I be looking for in Chinatown. The vacuum jars could be right in front of me. Jim Lewis Perin wrote: Space Cowboy writes: 9oz Bodum Pavina double wall thermo glass Oh, I misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about those Chinese tea jars that you can carry around with you on the subway or wherever. The one I bought at a bricks-and-mortar in New York's Chinatown leaked after a few weeks. Bodum Pavina sure is nice in its place, though. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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Space Cowboy writes:
Lew, What should I be looking for in Chinatown. The vacuum jars could be right in front of me. Cylindrical double-walled glass with screw top (that's what'll probably leak) and a grate to keep the leaves out of your mouth. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |