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Babelcarp enters a third milliverbium



 
 
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Old 28-08-2007, 04:44 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Sorry for the coined word in the Subject line, but it was minted by a
classical scholar who is also a tea fanatic (not me, if anyone is
wondering.)

Speaking of being sorry, I have to apologize for tooting my own horn,
but Babelcarp now has two thousand entries. It's true that one of the
recent ones is the Chinese word for teabag, but I won't force that one
upon the readers of this post.

Seriously, the point of this is that the lexicon continues to grow.
So if you tried to find a particular Chinese tea term there, say, a
month ago and came up empty, you might find it if you tried today.

/Lew
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Old 28-08-2007, 04:59 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
HobbesOxon
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Dear Lew,

I use the site very often - thank you for your continued work on
what has turned out to be a truly invaluable reference site.


Toodlepip,

Hobbes

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Old 28-08-2007, 06:19 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Brent[_4_]
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Thank you Lew! I have needed Babelcarp quite a few times, and I
appreciate the work you have put into it.

-Brent

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Old 28-08-2007, 10:40 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Aug 28, 10:19 am, Brent wrote:
Thank you Lew! I have needed Babelcarp quite a few times, and I
appreciate the work you have put into it.

-Brent


Thank you, Lew!

Phyll

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Old 29-08-2007, 02:56 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
corax
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[lew]
Speaking of being sorry, I have to apologize
for tooting my own horn,


[corax]
no you don't! we are all happy for you, and incredibly proud of you at
this impressive milestone. i echo the gratitude of others here -- what
would we do without the carp?


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Old 29-08-2007, 04:47 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Didn't have an entry in my Rosetta Stone for teabag. Knowing what you
dont have is just as important as knowing what you do. Keep up the
good work because I know sometimes it is more tedious than exciting.
For a perspective at most in my printed asian dictionaries that might
be a 100 entries related to tea in any give one. I'd say about 10% of
my Window Chinese characters won't load(show) on a Mac 10 which is
more or less Linux.

Jim

Lewis Perin wrote:
Sorry for the coined word in the Subject line, but it was minted by a
classical scholar who is also a tea fanatic (not me, if anyone is
wondering.)

Speaking of being sorry, I have to apologize for tooting my own horn,
but Babelcarp now has two thousand entries. It's true that one of the
recent ones is the Chinese word for teabag, but I won't force that one
upon the readers of this post.

Seriously, the point of this is that the lexicon continues to grow.
So if you tried to find a particular Chinese tea term there, say, a
month ago and came up empty, you might find it if you tried today.

/Lew
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http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html


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Old 29-08-2007, 05:06 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Space Cowboy writes:

Didn't have an entry in my Rosetta Stone for teabag. Knowing what you
dont have is just as important as knowing what you do. Keep up the
good work because I know sometimes it is more tedious than exciting.


Thanks, and I agree about the sometimes-tedious part.

For a perspective at most in my printed asian dictionaries that might
be a 100 entries related to tea in any give one.


Speaking of tedious, have you gone through dictionaries word by word
from beginning to end?

/Lew
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Old 29-08-2007, 11:30 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Thank you for your work & time on the Babelcarp
Used it frequently,
SN.

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Old 30-08-2007, 01:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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I have a Chinese-Japanese dictionary with 80 entries for the cha
transliteration. I have a page copy of a Chinese compound dictionary
with 105 entries for the tea character. In those entries it mentioned
Lu Yu was aka the 'tea maniac'. The character for maniac is really
fine print and faded. I can make out the right side and the closest I
can come is the dian1 or for crazy or mad. Does this look correct
for those in the know.

Jim

Lewis Perin wrote:
Space Cowboy writes:

For a perspective at most in my printed asian dictionaries that might
be a 100 entries related to tea in any give one.


Speaking of tedious, have you gone through dictionaries word by word
from beginning to end?

/Lew
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http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html


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Old 30-08-2007, 01:48 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Space Cowboy
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This is the character I tried to show. I can't vouch for Unicode and
Google on this computer.

http://www.unicode.org/cgi-bin/refglyph?24-7672

Jim

Space Cowboy wrote:
I have a Chinese-Japanese dictionary with 80 entries for the cha
transliteration. I have a page copy of a Chinese compound dictionary
with 105 entries for the tea character. In those entries it mentioned
Lu Yu was aka the 'tea maniac'. The character for maniac is really
fine print and faded. I can make out the right side and the closest I
can come is the dian1 or for crazy or mad. Does this look correct
for those in the know.

Jim

Lewis Perin wrote:
Space Cowboy writes:

For a perspective at most in my printed asian dictionaries that might
be a 100 entries related to tea in any give one.


Speaking of tedious, have you gone through dictionaries word by word
from beginning to end?

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html


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Old 31-08-2007, 01:34 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Will Yardley
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On 2007-08-28, Lewis Perin wrote:

Speaking of being sorry, I have to apologize for tooting my own horn,
but Babelcarp now has two thousand entries. It's true that one of the
recent ones is the Chinese word for teabag, but I won't force that one
upon the readers of this post.


Would it be hard to add a visual representation of tones in babelcarp,
either using accents or numbers?

BTW, another great language resource is this one:
http://www.nciku.com/

You can type in a word, paste a character, or even draw the character,
and it will give you possible meanings, along with the tone, and in many
cases, a recording of the pronounciation.

w

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Old 31-08-2007, 03:50 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Will Yardley writes:

On 2007-08-28, Lewis Perin wrote:

Speaking of being sorry, I have to apologize for tooting my own horn,
but Babelcarp now has two thousand entries. It's true that one of the
recent ones is the Chinese word for teabag, but I won't force that one
upon the readers of this post.


Would it be hard to add a visual representation of tones in babelcarp,
either using accents or numbers?


Hard? No, just time-consuming. I've actually been working my way
through the alphabet in Babelcarp doing just that, but I have a
million other things to do, including, of course running down users'
queries that the Carp can't currently answer. At this point, the
alphabetical scan is at the letter M.

BTW, another great language resource is this one:
http://www.nciku.com/

You can type in a word, paste a character, or even draw the character,
and it will give you possible meanings, along with the tone, and in many
cases, a recording of the pronounciation.


Thanks for pointing it out. It's the prettiest site of its kind I've
seen, and the drawing recognition should be nice. But I just tried
it, and it took a long time just to load; worse, when I typed in the
Pinyin for a single character, it froze.

/Lew
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Old 31-08-2007, 04:41 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Keep up the good work Lew!

MarshalN
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