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Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!



 
 
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:24 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
SN
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...

this is a little 2mm long brown little flying bug, obviously not small
enough to escape the container and eat all my tea

yup, organic... great...

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Old 11-08-2007, 07:03 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 11, 9:24 am, SN wrote:
well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...

this is a little 2mm long brown little flying bug, obviously not small
enough to escape the container and eat all my tea

yup, organic... great...


i think is pretty common to see those brown bugs in flower teas... i
ussually take them out under the sun.

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Old 13-08-2007, 07:52 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 10, 6:24 pm, SN wrote:
well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...

this is a little 2mm long brown little flying bug, obviously not small
enough to escape the container and eat all my tea

yup, organic... great...


Those little critters sound a lot like "grain moths" which are common
this time of year. They are also common in stores that sell "bulk".
From the research I've done on our own invasion (courtesy of Whole

Foods) they are apparently harmless , although creepy. In ridding
ourselves of them we dumped most everything and taped bay laurel
leaves to the top of each container (outside) which has inhibited any
re-infestation.
Also, organic gardening stores online sell sticky traps which can go
into your cabinets and they work very, very well.
Hope this helps.
Shen

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Old 13-08-2007, 08:09 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Scott Dorsey
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

SN wrote:
well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...


Even if they _are_ airtight, it doesn't take a lot of air inside the
can to allow the critters to survive and breed.

This is a very popular thing with Hungarian paprika, also. Keep it in
the freezer or the seeds will hatch and you will have a can full of bugs
very quickly.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Old 14-08-2007, 02:26 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Alan
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 12, 11:52 pm, Shen wrote:
On Aug 10, 6:24 pm, SN wrote:

well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...


this is a little 2mm long brown little flying bug, obviously not small
enough to escape the container and eat all my tea


yup, organic... great...


Those little critters sound a lot like "grain moths" which are common
this time of year. They are also common in stores that sell "bulk".From the research I've done on our own invasion (courtesy of Whole

Foods) they are apparently harmless , although creepy. In ridding
ourselves of them we dumped most everything and taped bay laurel
leaves to the top of each container (outside) which has inhibited any
re-infestation.
Also, organic gardening stores online sell sticky traps which can go
into your cabinets and they work very, very well.
Hope this helps.
Shen


These sound too small to be grain moths: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_meal_moth.
Also, grain moths eat starch, and AFAIK, there's not much starch in
flowers (or tea). Sorry I can't tell you what it is; just what it
isn't. ;-)

I dealt with grain moth infestation several times when I lived in
Texas (haven't yet in Arizona, fingers crossed) and found that the
sticky traps with the pheromone lure worked very well. I also learned
that these guys can chew through plastic, so even foods in thick zip-
loc bags were infested.

Alan

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Old 17-08-2007, 01:21 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
MarshalN[_1_]
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 14, 3:09 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
SN wrote:
well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...


Even if they _are_ airtight, it doesn't take a lot of air inside the
can to allow the critters to survive and breed.

This is a very popular thing with Hungarian paprika, also. Keep it in
the freezer or the seeds will hatch and you will have a can full of bugs
very quickly.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


Yes, I've had a little container that was difficult to use -- they
were all stuck together and wouldn't come out. When I investigated
closer... I noticed that it's full of bugs!

Needless to say, it was rather disgusting and I threw it away....

MarshalN
http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN

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Old 18-08-2007, 12:51 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 17, 5:21 am, MarshalN wrote:
On Aug 14, 3:09 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

SN wrote:
well it seems these teavana containers are not so air tight...
probably that allowed any larva to grow and multiply (5months) into a
whole colony occupying the container, reducing the plant and flowers
to a mulch...


Even if they _are_ airtight, it doesn't take a lot of air inside the
can to allow the critters to survive and breed.


This is a very popular thing with Hungarian paprika, also. Keep it in
the freezer or the seeds will hatch and you will have a can full of bugs
very quickly.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


Yes, I've had a little container that was difficult to use -- they
were all stuck together and wouldn't come out. When I investigated
closer... I noticed that it's full of bugs!

Needless to say, it was rather disgusting and I threw it away....

MarshalNhttp://www.xanga.com/MarshalN


Wait a second...if they are grain moths, then you CAN collect the poo
poo and drink it (or sell it for a high sum), no? Isn't that what
"long zhu" (aka: poo pu-erh) is made from?

Phyll

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Old 18-08-2007, 06:45 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
MarshalN[_1_]
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Default Chamomile & Chrysanthemum bug infestation in containers!

On Aug 18, 7:51 am, Phyll wrote:

Wait a second...if they are grain moths, then you CAN collect the poo
poo and drink it (or sell it for a high sum), no? Isn't that what
"long zhu" (aka: poo pu-erh) is made from?

Phyll


Since I know where I can buy such things..... no point in trying to
make my own

Besides, those drinks are really only good for one or two sittings
before they get boring.

MarshalN
http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN

 




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