no offence Mr. Ankit but it was bit irritating because I was not
expecting any emails from you, i was interested in your company
because friends like salsero and shen recommended but this is like
getting another spam viagra mail which explodes my inbox. Privacy
policy is a strict policy you should follow and shouldn't send any
mail that is marketing oriented. Don't tell me that you were not
marketing your tea or trying to earn a customer. Even if you would
sent me the tea samples or whatever name you give it, the ultimate
thing for me is to buy your tea if i like it. or is it that you would
feed me the teas throughout your life in order to promote Indian tea.
Why would you spend your own bucks to promote Indian tea and expect
nothing knowing that you are a tea merchant. If you were doing that
then that is sheer stupidity. So what is turns out to be is purely
your marketing strategy which is done in a very wrong way. I don't
intend to hurt you, but think of all unsolicited emails that i
receive. Your company may be huge and diversified but small things
like sending unsolicited mail deprives you of what ever you have got
or whatever height you may have achieved. I have never received such
an email from upton or thunderbolt or any other tea vendor. you too
wouldn't have written to me if it wasn't for this google group
posting. you saw, got the chance and wrote - thats bad. they,
thunderbolt, didn't write to me much but just to the point about my
order and that is what i call professionalism. all i am interested is
in the teas and its not that i didn't go to your site, i didn't buy
from you, because you don't have my choice of teas. this you should
have understood from my earlier post. if i would have bought your
teas, then i would have done right away, but i didn't because
thunderbolt had my choice. when you wrote to me without my consent, i
feared that there would be a breach in submitting my personal details
to you such as cc info etc. if you are not aware of such small privacy
policies, why should i or anyone trust you, afterall, we all know you
just through the internet and internet as you know is an equal playing
field for all.

well, i have been drinking darjeeling tea for a long time and have
never heard any tea gardens owned by lochan tea, can you name your tea
garden in darjeeling? or is it other tea garden of india? sorry for if
i offended you, but being practical and taking note of privacy
concerns of your fellow cutomers is your first hand job. thats my
advice. don't force someone to buy your teas by sending unwanted
emails, if someone likes your teas and has the capacity to buy, he
will definitely buy.

Wow...

Honestly, if you are that frustrated by the time it takes to delete
one more email in your inbox, how did you find the time to write this
long rant? It might just be me, but I don't mind an occasional email
from a vendor. I have had a fair number of vendors contact me through
my blog, and I only respond to the ones I'm interested in. If I like
their product, I might buy more; if I don't, so be it. You wouldn't
walk up to every free sample stand in Costco and shout, "Don't give me
a sample, I might like it and want to buy some!"

Ankit recently offered me a good amount of tea, and I am quite excited
about it. Marketing or not, it's still a gift. It's not like one of
those mass "FREE SAMPLES OF VIAGRA/VALIUM/FAT BURNERS!!!!" scam
emails.

That being said, I understand that sending unsolicited mail to a
usenet poster's email address is a no-no. So, perhaps Ankit should
have posted his offer here first. Still... give him a break, he's a
nice guy.

-Brent

On Sep 2, 10:04 am, wrote:
no offence Mr. Ankit but it was bit irritating because I was not
expecting any emails from you, i was interested in your company
because friends like salsero and shen recommended but this is like
getting another spam viagra mail which explodes my inbox. Privacy
policy is a strict policy you should follow and shouldn't send any
mail that is marketing oriented. Don't tell me that you were not
marketing your tea or trying to earn a customer. Even if you would
sent me the tea samples or whatever name you give it, the ultimate
thing for me is to buy your tea if i like it. or is it that you would
feed me the teas throughout your life in order to promote Indian tea.
Why would you spend your own bucks to promote Indian tea and expect
nothing knowing that you are a tea merchant. If you were doing that
then that is sheer stupidity. So what is turns out to be is purely
your marketing strategy which is done in a very wrong way. I don't
intend to hurt you, but think of all unsolicited emails that i
receive. Your company may be huge and diversified but small things
like sending unsolicited mail deprives you of what ever you have got
or whatever height you may have achieved. I have never received such
an email from upton or thunderbolt or any other tea vendor. you too
wouldn't have written to me if it wasn't for this google group
posting. you saw, got the chance and wrote - thats bad. they,
thunderbolt, didn't write to me much but just to the point about my
order and that is what i call professionalism. all i am interested is
in the teas and its not that i didn't go to your site, i didn't buy
from you, because you don't have my choice of teas. this you should
have understood from my earlier post. if i would have bought your
teas, then i would have done right away, but i didn't because
thunderbolt had my choice. when you wrote to me without my consent, i
feared that there would be a breach in submitting my personal details
to you such as cc info etc. if you are not aware of such small privacy
policies, why should i or anyone trust you, afterall, we all know you
just through the internet and internet as you know is an equal playing
field for all.

well, i have been drinking darjeeling tea for a long time and have
never heard any tea gardens owned by lochan tea, can you name your tea
garden in darjeeling? or is it other tea garden of india? sorry for if
i offended you, but being practical and taking note of privacy
concerns of your fellow cutomers is your first hand job. thats my
advice. don't force someone to buy your teas by sending unwanted
emails, if someone likes your teas and has the capacity to buy, he
will definitely buy.

On Sep 2, 11:10 am, Brent wrote:
Wow...

Honestly, if you are that frustrated by the time it takes to delete
one more email in your inbox, how did you find the time to write this
long rant? It might just be me, but I don't mind an occasional email
from a vendor. I have had a fair number of vendors contact me through
my blog, and I only respond to the ones I'm interested in. If I like
their product, I might buy more; if I don't, so be it. You wouldn't
walk up to every free sample stand in Costco and shout, "Don't give me
a sample, I might like it and want to buy some!"

Ankit recently offered me a good amount of tea, and I am quite excited
about it. Marketing or not, it's still a gift. It's not like one of
those mass "FREE SAMPLES OF VIAGRA/VALIUM/FAT BURNERS!!!!" scam
emails.

That being said, I understand that sending unsolicited mail to a
usenet poster's email address is a no-no. So, perhaps Ankit should
have posted his offer here first. Still... give him a break, he's a
nice guy.

-Brent
Tekujain,
Agreed, Brent!
Ankit and the Lochan family are really incredibly ethical people. Read
the postings on T'Ching and you'll realize how committed they are not
only to the tea business in regard to purveying a good quality
product; but, also in caring for the well-being of tea workers.
These are not some folks looking to have your business or spamming
you.
Had you read the Lochans' postings in this group alone you would
respect their approach to the stuff and the people of tea.
Just ask Ankit not to email you. He's a very kind and decent fellow
and I'm sure would immediately honour your wishes. There is probably
just a misunderstanding.
If you've got the time to go on the attack where it's really not
justified, why not go after the real culprits who haunt your inbox
drooling for your business. Or devote your energy to more important
matters. I firmly believe the Lochans are not into invading your
privacy! And you may take a minute to thank Ankit for his continuing
generosity.
The world is full up enough with misappropriated animosity. Please
think twice before you misdirect your anger. It's the little nastiness-
es that permit the bigger ones.
Shen

Hi everyone, it seems that there are a lot of lochan fans! thats good
but not all people are the same. Hi! Brent, you are new on this
particular thread or whatever it is, and I respect your words, but you
have directly asked me. Will you welcome any unsolicited mail to your
mailbox? Have you always happily deleted your spam mails without
wishing never to receive one again? The only difference is that you
can hardly comment on those spams because there is nowhere you can
comment, but this is happening right here in front of my eyes and I
know who is spamming. Why wouldn't i get furious, i will, because it
concerns my privacy. If you have read ankits mail properly, he has
directly asked for my mailing address. We have never interacted before
and why should i blind foldedly send my mailing address to him. I will
not do so in want of some free samples. Yes, tasting tea samples is
always better before buying but I should be interested. usually
vendors do send tea samples on request and that is justifiable. You
said Ankit offered you some teas, can't you see that he has been
writing to all - you, me and god knows how many. he must be spamming a
whole lot of people.

If you read my post properly before you could write, i have just
suggested or adviced ankit to take care of customer privacy policy.

To tell you the truth, i had already forgotten about the incident
after i had posted the advice message above and after hearing ankit's
apologies, but brent, i had to answer to you because you were not even
discussing here. Shen, you have beautifully written and you can say
that you stole my heart away and melted the frustration. but people
think it with your hearts crossed, should ankit carry on the practice
of writing to anyone whom he finds is interested in tea no matter what
he sends for free? I leave the answer to you.

Ankit, i advice you once again, please for god sake stop the practice
even if you want to promote indian tea or any poor tea worker. Shen, I
am aware of the tea people in Darjeeling, because I have been to
Darjeeling in 2002 and visited quite a few tea gardens. The scene is
pathetic and that is why, Darjeeling being my favorite, I make a point
to buy it.

anyway, first thread posts and a fight, great experience and i like it
because all tea people seem to be into it. oh yes, i will update you
on the teas i receive.

On Sep 2, 10:04 pm, wrote:
no offence Mr. Ankit but it was bit irritating because I was not
expecting any emails from you, i was interested in your company
because friends like salsero and shen recommended but this is like
getting another spam viagra mail which explodes my inbox. Privacy
policy is a strict policy you should follow and shouldn't send any
mail that is marketing oriented. Don't tell me that you were not
marketing your tea or trying to earn a customer. Even if you would
sent me the tea samples or whatever name you give it, the ultimate
thing for me is to buy your tea if i like it. or is it that you would
feed me the teas throughout your life in order to promote Indian tea.
Why would you spend your own bucks to promote Indian tea and expect
nothing knowing that you are a tea merchant. If you were doing that
then that is sheer stupidity. So what is turns out to be is purely
your marketing strategy which is done in a very wrong way. I don't
intend to hurt you, but think of all unsolicited emails that i
receive. Your company may be huge and diversified but small things
like sending unsolicited mail deprives you of what ever you have got
or whatever height you may have achieved. I have never received such
an email from upton or thunderbolt or any other tea vendor. you too
wouldn't have written to me if it wasn't for this google group
posting. you saw, got the chance and wrote - thats bad. they,
thunderbolt, didn't write to me much but just to the point about my
order and that is what i call professionalism. all i am interested is
in the teas and its not that i didn't go to your site, i didn't buy
from you, because you don't have my choice of teas. this you should
have understood from my earlier post. if i would have bought your
teas, then i would have done right away, but i didn't because
thunderbolt had my choice. when you wrote to me without my consent, i
feared that there would be a breach in submitting my personal details
to you such as cc info etc. if you are not aware of such small privacy
policies, why should i or anyone trust you, afterall, we all know you
just through the internet and internet as you know is an equal playing
field for all.

well, i have been drinking darjeeling tea for a long time and have
never heard any tea gardens owned by lochan tea, can you name your tea
garden in darjeeling? or is it other tea garden of india? sorry for if
i offended you, but being practical and taking note of privacy
concerns of your fellow cutomers is your first hand job. thats my
advice. don't force someone to buy your teas by sending unwanted
emails, if someone likes your teas and has the capacity to buy, he
will definitely buy.


hello tekujain,

please understand that i have accepted my mistake of sending you one
mail which was unwanted - i have also apologised for doing that and am
really really sorry for intruding your privacy. i do not wish to argue
with you on any of the points that you have written earlier - we
accept that we have made a mistake and apologise again for the same.

i have a small request to make - please do not give our exchanges and
way of sharing things the name of '' stupidity" - makes it sound a bit
out of place - we all have our own ways of doing things - lets just be
a bit soft and calm and respect each other - i hope you will
understand my point.

please feel free to visit our garden site - www.doketea.com , mr tim
grover of cargo and james tea compay is our partner in this -- it is
run by a foundation called www.indusfoundation.com , in nepal the name
of the estate is nakhalbandha - 300 hectares - my brother in law runs
the property - its a CTC based garden. there are also several tie ups
and investments we have in several estates - if you wish i can e mail
the details of ur tie ups as i have to take permission from my
superiors before doing that.

you are most welcome to visit us if you plan to travel to this part of
the country - we would love to host you and show you around the
place.

thank you for your advise - i will always keep it in mind - it is a
lesson learnt.

have a nice day and before ending once again no hard feelings and
sorry again.

regards
ankit

I don't mean to fuel any flames, since Ankit has apologized twice now,
but I wanted to respond to your previous post.

Firstly, aren't you blindly sending your mailing address *and* payment
info each time you purchase something from an online vendor? Yes, I
know Ankit sends a lot of people samples of tea, and some of them are
friends of mine. If you didn't know, he has also provided several
teas for community online tea tastings at TChing.com. Why should that
make him any less trustworthy? If anything, doesn't it put him even
more in the public eye?

Also, I just can't see how privacy is an issue here. You were not
required to send any personal information whatsoever, and nobody is
hacking into your bank accounts. The only things he knows about you
are your name, which you posted; and your email address, which over
usenet, is not private at all. What private information of yours did
he compromise? Honestly, what damages have you suffered due to his
offer, other than the time lost in deleting one email? I'm no more a
fan of unsolicited email than the next guy when it is truly junk mail,
but that's what junk filters are for.

Lastly, I fail to see how my lack of previous participation, despite
the fact that I have been reading this thread since its beginning,
prevents me from voicing my opinion on the matter. If you would like
me to post about the original topic, I can say that I did enjoy the
two teas I ordered from Thunderbolt last year. I haven't tried their
first flush offerings, since I tend to prefer second flushes from
Darjeeling, but what I had was good.

-Brent

im not a fan of words, i got no manners & my iq=56, so heres my reply:

actually he doesn't 'spam' everybody (he forgot me)

and i feel sad that i don't get spammed more often with truly free
samples of what i like - tea ...not viagra.

and, its the internet
- there is no 'privacy' if you post somewhere, actually nowadays they
guess email address from word lists.
- there are many free email providers, you can have unlimited email
addresses. use them.
- dont reply to spam, (unless its your greatgrandfather in Nigeria, he
needs to send you 2.5 million dollars).


I AM WAITING FOR SOME FREE TEA SAMPLES.
my email is:
thank you. spam me..
please. ....somebody ....anybody? ...hello ...?. . . .

Ok, this is getting ridiculous so here's my two bob's worth..... if some
vendor, known to the group or myself offers me free samples (because I
appear to be interested in tea, and, why would I be subscribed to this group
if I wasn't !?) and asks for a mailing address then I have a choice:

a) say no thanks, I prefer to keep my address private
b) I can take up his/her gracious offer
or c) ignore him/her.

If you choose a) then I am certain that any reputable vendor would respect
your wishes and accede to your request.

So, would I welcome any unsolicited mail from a known and reputable vendor
offering me free samples of his/her product?? Yes I would.

Jumping up and down and making a fuss doesn't serve any purpose at all.

So come on folks, lets all count to 10 and move on.

Cheers
Mal
Oz


wrote in message
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Hi everyone, it seems that there are a lot of lochan fans! thats good
but not all people are the same. Hi! Brent, you are new on this
particular thread or whatever it is, and I respect your words, but you
have directly asked me. Will you welcome any unsolicited mail to your
mailbox? Have you always happily deleted your spam mails without
wishing never to receive one again? The only difference is that you
can hardly comment on those spams because there is nowhere you can
comment, but this is happening right here in front of my eyes and I
know who is spamming. Why wouldn't i get furious, i will, because it
concerns my privacy. If you have read ankits mail properly, he has
directly asked for my mailing address. We have never interacted before
and why should i blind foldedly send my mailing address to him. I will
not do so in want of some free samples. Yes, tasting tea samples is
always better before buying but I should be interested. usually
vendors do send tea samples on request and that is justifiable. You
said Ankit offered you some teas, can't you see that he has been
writing to all - you, me and god knows how many. he must be spamming a
whole lot of people.

If you read my post properly before you could write, i have just
suggested or adviced ankit to take care of customer privacy policy.

To tell you the truth, i had already forgotten about the incident
after i had posted the advice message above and after hearing ankit's
apologies, but brent, i had to answer to you because you were not even
discussing here. Shen, you have beautifully written and you can say
that you stole my heart away and melted the frustration. but people
think it with your hearts crossed, should ankit carry on the practice
of writing to anyone whom he finds is interested in tea no matter what
he sends for free? I leave the answer to you.

Ankit, i advice you once again, please for god sake stop the practice
even if you want to promote indian tea or any poor tea worker. Shen, I
am aware of the tea people in Darjeeling, because I have been to
Darjeeling in 2002 and visited quite a few tea gardens. The scene is
pathetic and that is why, Darjeeling being my favorite, I make a point
to buy it.

anyway, first thread posts and a fight, great experience and i like it
because all tea people seem to be into it. oh yes, i will update you
on the teas i receive.

was away for sometime and i logged in and now i can see a fire
burning. i came here looking for tea experts or tea people who had
experience with the thunderbolts and this is because i wanted to know
how trust worthy they were. if i wanted to buy ankit's tea, i would
have done the same. so you see brent, i came here because i just
didn't want to provide my cc details etc. blind foldedly and the other
reason was the quality of teas they carried. its because i have
exprienced in the past, one tea on the site and you receive a tea
which is quite disappointing. I had never tried thunderbolts and i
still don't know about their teas, because it hasn't arrived yet. the
bottom line is i do a small research before submitting my cc details
to any online vendor and i believe its a good practice to safe guard
yourself. that is why review sites are very important. now you ask me
where my privacy has been at stake, its not at stake but see what he
asked for, my personal address as to where i live. It was ok, if he
had exchanged some friendly mails before like "i am a tea lover too,
what are your favorite teas etc" but directly asking my mail address
is what offended me.

Ankit, if you have read my post properly, i had forgotten about the
matter, the first time you apologized and i could see you do the
second time as brent mentioned. if you feel you are not so guilty,
don't apologize time and again. it has already been understood and its
you who haven't. read the post properly.

and folks, to tell you frankly logged in with a different vision and
you give me nothing that is tea but bla bla. YOU WIN AND THERE IS NO
NEED TO ANSWER. There are so many questions and i don't think it
necessary to answer all, though i can, because its just going to get
prolonged. And Ankit, no matter how big or small you showcase
yourself, its the interaction that matters and your approach of
course.

So folks lets forget it, there are too many ankit fans here and i
alone can't do anything. just forget it, i don't have time to answer
each and everyone. Though thanks to salsero and shen, they helped me.
and don't worry, i will update about the tea got from thunderbolts. i
really don't know how the teas turn out to be, hope its worth the
money i spent on it.

by the way ankit, i am also an indian now based in some other country.

On Sep 3, 3:21 am, wrote:
was away for sometime and i logged in and now i can see a fire
burning. i came here looking for tea experts or tea people who had
experience with the thunderbolts and this is because i wanted to know
how trust worthy they were. if i wanted to buy ankit's tea, i would
have done the same. so you see brent, i came here because i just
didn't want to provide my cc details etc. blind foldedly and the other
reason was the quality of teas they carried. its because i have
exprienced in the past, one tea on the site and you receive a tea
which is quite disappointing. I had never tried thunderbolts and i
still don't know about their teas, because it hasn't arrived yet. the
bottom line is i do a small research before submitting my cc details
to any online vendor and i believe its a good practice to safe guard
yourself. that is why review sites are very important. now you ask me
where my privacy has been at stake, its not at stake but see what he
asked for, my personal address as to where i live. It was ok, if he
had exchanged some friendly mails before like "i am a tea lover too,
what are your favorite teas etc" but directly asking my mail address
is what offended me.

Ankit, if you have read my post properly, i had forgotten about the
matter, the first time you apologized and i could see you do the
second time as brent mentioned. if you feel you are not so guilty,
don't apologize time and again. it has already been understood and its
you who haven't. read the post properly.

and folks, to tell you frankly logged in with a different vision and
you give me nothing that is tea but bla bla. YOU WIN AND THERE IS NO
NEED TO ANSWER. There are so many questions and i don't think it
necessary to answer all, though i can, because its just going to get
prolonged. And Ankit, no matter how big or small you showcase
yourself, its the interaction that matters and your approach of
course.

So folks lets forget it, there are too many ankit fans here and i
alone can't do anything. just forget it, i don't have time to answer
each and everyone. Though thanks to salsero and shen, they helped me.
and don't worry, i will update about the tea got from thunderbolts. i
really don't know how the teas turn out to be, hope its worth the
money i spent on it.

by the way ankit, i am also an indian now based in some other country.

Hey, hey, fellows...............
Enough. Hopefully, all of us will be more considerate of one another,
handle spam accordingly and get to the loveliness of tea.
Maybe we all need to settle down, create or do a familiar tea ritual
(for me, gong fu this morning), and breathe. Maybe we all need to take
a ,moment to realize how fortunate we are to have an opportunity to
disagree and listen to one another and then breathe deeply and
consider the bigger picture. Whether we get an email from someone with
good intentions whom we may not know can seem absolutely
inconsequential in the scope of things.
Let's try to remember to be kinder to one another when communicating
our displeasure and put the whole thing into some sort of perspective.
We, on this board, come from different experiences, different
cultures, different languages. Being aware of that, let's all try to
be more patient and understanding.
Okay?
Enough of my soapbox. It's "Labor Day" here in America and I'm off to
have some well-earning leisure time with friends, enjoy some tea
together and mull over (over some very nice Dian Hong) what I can do,
personally, to contribute to the well-being of laborers (especially in
the tea business) who are suffering.
Shen

Shen, didn't I mention you melted my heart. How can you write so
beautifully. you must have had that inborn people convincing power.
Well i guess its all settled now and guys can we move on to more of T-
E-A. To introduce myself, I am born Indian now settled in UK. I have
just started a travel company and will be taking people to India for
tours. For the moment, I am focussing on India only because its the
only country with which I am familiar with.

Pardon my travel discussion, I never got a chance to introduce myself
before, you all know the reason why fight fight fight! Right now, I am
drinking my last left over 100 grams of Darjeeling.

My previous post disappeared for no reason, is it the google thing? i
am new to this usenet and even don't know if there are administrators
alloted. Well hope this doesn't disappear. Shen, did i mention that
you are a life saver and a person who knows how to melt someone's
heart. Is it an inborn talent? how can you write so beautifully? Take
it to the lighter side, just pulling your leg.

Guess, the fire has now settled and everything is fine now. Or is it
that some more bullets are left in the magazine? If you read from my
first post then you all will know why i came to this group discussion,
simply for the reason TEA. Yes as shen mentioned "the bigger picture"
is tea and tea.

To introduce myself, I am teku, an Indian now settled in the UK. I
have just started a new travel company which is niche to India tours.
u know never got a chance to introduce myself, you know the reason
why.

well right now, i am using my last 100 grams of darjeeling with utmost
care and in a very very miserly fashion. thats my stock before
thunderbolts arrive.

this is the 27 post and if you see, the 26th once disappeared
mysteriously

Stop the marketing disguised as elucidation. You sound like the guy
who showed up years ago giving away free samples of darejeeling white
tea. He was the greatest living authority about anything from India
till the samples dried up. You'll learn a lot more about tea noting
what you should look for from the experience of others than one
vendor's claim of taste mine. At least I can claim my local tea
shoppe doesn't sell the best Indian estate teas contrary to probably
what the owner would say. Don't believe anybody who says they do.

Jim

PS For the rest of you, you're a fool if you think samples mean
anything. The lot order won't even come close to the same quality.
That's the way it works. I don't have to kiss this guy's ass to know
what he offers is anything different unless you think the smudge left
on your lips adds to the taste. This guy is using this group to sell
tea and if you're waiting for your samples then you're the one who
doesn't give a damn about this group and stop acting like a cheap
mark. To the new poster your right this guy's behavior is contrary to
the spirit of this group.

Ankit Lochan wrote:
....I censor in the name of the Patriot Act...
hi!

i am sorry for intruding into your privacy- all i was doing was
offering you some samples to try. if that is an offence - i take back
my words - i apologise for trying to promote indian teas. you shall
never again hear from me if this is the issue.

just a small note - we are a producer company having estates in india,
china and nepal, our online shop sales do not even contribute to 1% of
our total sales - our only motive for writing in these blogs is to
promote indian tea and let consumers get value for money.

sorry again for writing directly to you - i will be more careful in
the near future.

as a tea lover i was only trying to sample some good teas to you - my
intention was never to get publicity or create some marketing gimmick.

frankly i am a bit hurt by this issue - anyways life is like this - we
have to move on.

i hope you will accept my sincere apologies as all humans make
mistakes.

have a nice day!

ankit

I would normally be wary of samples, but considering the glowing
reviews of some of the Lochan Tea products mentioned earlier in this
thread, I'm not too worried about the quality of the rest of the
lots. By the way, I didn't get my samples due to any participation in
this group, it was a totally unrelated matter, so he didn't use the
group to sell me tea.

Anyway, Teku, I'm all out of bullets too. Only 100g left? o_O I
hope, for your sake, that your order comes in soon! Also, don't
forget to let us know how they are when you get them.

-Brent

On Sep 4, 6:57 am, Space Cowboy wrote:
Stop the marketing disguised as elucidation. You sound like the guy
who showed up years ago giving away free samples of darejeeling white
tea. He was the greatest living authority about anything from India
till the samples dried up. You'll learn a lot more about tea noting
what you should look for from the experience of others than one
vendor's claim of taste mine. At least I can claim my local tea
shoppe doesn't sell the best Indian estate teas contrary to probably
what the owner would say. Don't believe anybody who says they do.

Jim

PS For the rest of you, you're a fool if you think samples mean
anything. The lot order won't even come close to the same quality.
That's the way it works. I don't have to kiss this guy's ass to know
what he offers is anything different unless you think the smudge left
on your lips adds to the taste. This guy is using this group to sell
tea and if you're waiting for your samples then you're the one who
doesn't give a damn about this group and stop acting like a cheap
mark. To the new poster your right this guy's behavior is contrary to
the spirit of this group.

Ankit Lochan wrote:

...I censor in the name of the Patriot Act...



hi!

i am sorry for intruding into your privacy- all i was doing was
offering you some samples to try. if that is an offence - i take back
my words - i apologise for trying to promote Indian teas. you shall
never again hear from me if this is the issue.

just a small note - we are a producer company having estates in india,
china and nepal, our online shop sales do not even contribute to 1% of
our total sales - our only motive for writing in these blogs is to
promote indian tea and let consumers get value for money.

sorry again for writing directly to you - i will be more careful in
the near future.

as a tea lover i was only trying to sample some good teas to you - my
intention was never to get publicity or create some marketing gimmick.

frankly i am a bit hurt by this issue - anyways life is like this - we
have to move on.

i hope you will accept my sincere apologies as all humans make
mistakes.

have a nice day!

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Jim, Jim,
There you go again with unwarranted cynicism. The Lochan Tea Company
is well-regarded, with a long history. If Ankit says he will post
samples, he will.
If you had taken a bit of time to understand why the family, their
efforts and their teas are so well-respected (vouched for innumerable
times on this list and others by respectable tea people) you would
trust Ankit's word.
I feel sorry for you in that you seem to mistrust a great deal. Life
is too short to be so suspicious.
The whole world is not out to get you.
By the way, if you considered giving it a shot, you might even enjoy
the tea, without cross-examining the donor or doubtfully scrutinizing
his intentions. Some people actually do business honorably. It's a
shame you haven't come across them. Perhaps, you redundant negativity
warns them away.
Lighten up. Have a cup of good Darjeeling.
Shen