I have bought some used yixing teapots, they have old tea stains in
them. I know I can't used soap to clean them, I doubt washing them
with water will remove the stains. How do I go about cleaning them?
They looked dirty. If I can't used soap to wash them how to i go about
washing them?I am lost. I do not know how the teapot was seasoned last
time, How do i get rid of the old seasonning as well? Can I actually
reused seasonned teapots? Any help in cleaning and reusing the teapot
would be great.

Jazzy

Try washing them using tea liquor.

Julian
http://www.amazing-green-tea.com

On Aug 6, 4:32 am, Jazzy wrote:
I have bought some used yixing teapots, they have old tea stains in
them. I know I can't used soap to clean them, I doubt washing them
with water will remove the stains. How do I go about cleaning them?

I own a single used pot. First I gave it a thorough job with a
toothbrush [no paste], afterwards I cooked it in my pressure cooker
for an hour and I was OK with the result.
Another thing that comes to my mind would be ultrasonic cleaning,
again in H2O, mayyybeee some neutral vinegar as the remaining acid/
smell can be neutralised later.

Just my 2 gr,
Karsten

On Aug 6, 4:56 pm, wrote:
On Aug 6, 4:32 am, Jazzy wrote:

I have bought some used yixing teapots, they have old tea stains in
them. I know I can't used soap to clean them, I doubt washing them
with water will remove the stains. How do I go about cleaning them?

I own a single used pot. First I gave it a thorough job with a
toothbrush [no paste], afterwards I cooked it in my pressure cooker
for an hour and I was OK with the result.
Another thing that comes to my mind would be ultrasonic cleaning,
again in H2O, mayyybeee some neutral vinegar as the remaining acid/
smell can be neutralised later.

Just my 2 gr,
Karsten

The seller told me to wash with water only. i do not have ultrasonic
cleaning machine.
i try to clean it with water and see.

On Aug 6, 11:26 pm, Jazzy wrote:
On Aug 6, 4:56 pm, wrote:

On Aug 6, 4:32 am, Jazzy wrote:

I have bought some used yixing teapots, they have old tea stains in
them. I know I can't used soap to clean them, I doubt washing them
with water will remove the stains. How do I go about cleaning them?

I own a single used pot. First I gave it a thorough job with a
toothbrush [no paste], afterwards I cooked it in my pressure cooker
for an hour and I was OK with the result.
Another thing that comes to my mind would be ultrasonic cleaning,
again in H2O, mayyybeee some neutral vinegar as the remaining acid/
smell can be neutralised later.

Just my 2 gr,
Karsten

The seller told me to wash with water only. i do not have ultrasonic
cleaning machine.
i try to clean it with water and see.

Manage to clean my teapot with a toothbrush and water. then i
cooked the pot for 20 minutes..all done..

btw, anyone bought any teawares from 5000 friends in ebay. i am
thinking of getting some pot. any experience out there dealing with
them?

shipping is pricey!

On Aug 10, 12:48 am, Jazzy wrote:
On Aug 6, 11:26 pm, Jazzy wrote:





On Aug 6, 4:56 pm, wrote:

On Aug 6, 4:32 am, Jazzy wrote:

I have bought some used yixing teapots, they have old tea stains in
them. I know I can't used soap to clean them, I doubt washing them
with water will remove the stains. How do I go about cleaning them?

I own a single used pot. First I gave it a thorough job with a
toothbrush [no paste], afterwards I cooked it in my pressure cooker
for an hour and I was OK with the result.
Another thing that comes to my mind would be ultrasonic cleaning,
again in H2O, mayyybeee some neutral vinegar as the remaining acid/
smell can be neutralised later.

Just my 2 gr,
Karsten

The seller told me to wash with water only. i do not have ultrasonic
cleaning machine.
i try to clean it with water and see.

Manage to clean my teapot with a toothbrush and water. then i
cooked the pot for 20 minutes..all done..

btw, anyone bought any teawares from 5000 friends in ebay. i am
thinking of getting some pot. any experience out there dealing with
them?

shipping is pricey!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

His pots are beautiful and worth the sjhipping.
Shen

On 2007-08-10, Shen wrote:
On Aug 10, 12:48 am, Jazzy wrote:

btw, anyone bought any teawares from 5000 friends in ebay. i am
thinking of getting some pot. any experience out there dealing with
them?

shipping is pricey!

Well that's part of the game there.

His pots are beautiful and worth the sjhipping.

I personally don't believe that they are the age he describes them to
be, and the way they are aged seems suspiciously similar. I suspect that
they are mostly forgeries, however they are pretty well executed, with
most of the ones I've seen having a good metallic tone, hand join lines
for pots where they would be appropriate, etc.

But there's no way he's selling actual stuff from those time periods for
that price, expensive shipping or not. If you're just looking for a nice
pot to brew tea, and don't mind spending some time cleaning, check his
stuff out, but don't think you're getting a steal on an antique teapot.

w

On Aug 10, 5:31 pm, Will Yardley
wrote:
I personally don't believe that they are the age he describes them to
be, and the way they are aged seems suspiciously similar. I suspect that
they are mostly forgeries, however they are pretty well executed, with
most of the ones I've seen having a good metallic tone, hand join lines
for pots where they would be appropriate, etc.

But there's no way he's selling actual stuff from those time periods for
that price, expensive shipping or not. If you're just looking for a nice
pot to brew tea, and don't mind spending some time cleaning, check his
stuff out, but don't think you're getting a steal on an antique teapot.

Good points, Will. Exorbitant shipping is, in my opinion, a mild
scam. Claiming false dates and doctoring goods to make them look
older is a real scam, and I personally would take my business to
someone who is not a liar. Additionally, what treatment is he using
to make these things look older? It might very well not be safe.

SN, Jing Tea Shop and the Ebay seller Yunnan Sourcing are both highly
reputable sources of reasonably-priced yixing teapots. I would
recommend going with them.

Alex

On Aug 11, 5:37 am, Alex wrote:
On Aug 10, 5:31 pm, Will Yardley
wrote:

I personally don't believe that they are the age he describes them to
be, and the way they are aged seems suspiciously similar. I suspect that
they are mostly forgeries, however they are pretty well executed, with
most of the ones I've seen having a good metallic tone, hand join lines
for pots where they would be appropriate, etc.

But there's no way he's selling actual stuff from those time periods for
that price, expensive shipping or not. If you're just looking for a nice
pot to brew tea, and don't mind spending some time cleaning, check his
stuff out, but don't think you're getting a steal on an antique teapot.

Good points, Will. Exorbitant shipping is, in my opinion, a mild
scam. Claiming false dates and doctoring goods to make them look
older is a real scam, and I personally would take my business to
someone who is not a liar. Additionally, what treatment is he using
to make these things look older? It might very well not be safe.

SN, Jing Tea Shop and the Ebay seller Yunnan Sourcing are both highly
reputable sources of reasonably-priced yixing teapots. I would
recommend going with them.

Alex

but are the teapot worth for the price eventhough it is not that old
as they claimed? i mean i had my eyes on some zhuni pots.
i have seen yunnan sourcing pots, will be getting some from him. I
also heard that used pot are far much expensive than a new one?

i found it rather weird, why would an used pot is more expensive than
a new one. Used pot looks dirty I wouldn't want to drink for it.
I really need extreme cleaning with the one used pot i had. If not
clean properly, the tea has some kind of taste or aroma. Gross!

I continue cleaning and cleaning till it was perfect.

I do believe, that his pots are faked - they are not genuine old pots,
or at least they are "made used" probably with some colourings,
pigments or maybe worse. I bought 3 pots from him, one was new (no
problem), the other two were "old" but when I looked into one of them
I saw, that "tea stains" ended pretty sharply...

check out this photo - the "tea stains" next to the filter
http://poe.szm.sk/stains.jpg

btw, anyone bought any teawares from 5000 friends in ebay. i am
thinking of getting some pot. any experience out there dealing with
them?

On Aug 12, 3:15 pm, Balt wrote:
I do believe, that his pots are faked - they are not genuine old pots,
or at least they are "made used" probably with some colourings,
pigments or maybe worse. I bought 3 pots from him, one was new (no
problem), the other two were "old" but when I looked into one of them
I saw, that "tea stains" ended pretty sharply...

check out this photo - the "tea stains" next to the filterhttp://poe.szm.sk/stains.jpg



btw, anyone bought any teawares from 5000 friends in ebay. i am
thinking of getting some pot. any experience out there dealing with
them?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

the picture looked rather weird with the tea stains...
i wonder why one would like to fakely make a used pot..

wouldn't it be easier to sell them as new.

On Aug 12, 12:11 pm, Jazzy wrote:

i wonder why one would like to fakely make a used pot..

I wonder if this belongs here but I spent some time hanging around
with antique forgers in Kathmandu, Kunming and elsewhere. We had
exciting talks about the trade, their tricks and tools, ..... tourists
and so forth. Quite a few of them see their business as selling
"illusions" and they seemed to be OK with that.
Reminds me of Dzogchen master Tenzing Wangyal´s ritual to start his
teachings, waving his hands across the seminar room, exclaiming: "This
ALL dream !"

Karsten [Eastfrisean blend in tazza]

On 2007-08-12, Jazzy wrote:
On Aug 12, 3:15 pm, Balt wrote:

I do believe, that his pots are faked - they are not genuine old pots,
or at least they are "made used" probably with some colourings,
pigments or maybe worse. I bought 3 pots from him, one was new (no
problem), the other two were "old" but when I looked into one of them
I saw, that "tea stains" ended pretty sharply...

the picture looked rather weird with the tea stains...
i wonder why one would like to fakely make a used pot..

wouldn't it be easier to sell them as new.

No - because of the mystique of old pots, and the fact that old, well
seasoned pots are worth more. Now granted, an old, well seasoned, but
properly cared for pot probably wouldn't look as dirty as the 5000
friend ones, but the fact that they're dirty maybe makes people believe
they /could/ be as old as he's saying.

Plus, it would probably be easier to tell that the pot is not antique if
it's not tea-stained.

And going back to what you were saying in another post about preferring
clean pots... a well cared for, seasoned teapot can be worth more than
an equivalent new or used "clean" teapot. Also, many types of clay that
are prized (e.g., zhuni) are now extinct or hard to obtain, and the
processing of yixing clay has changed, so older pots (most of which are
used) are prized over "new" pots.

I could be wrong, but from what I've heard, teapots of this type and age
(if genuine) are worth a good amount of money, regardless of condition;
I don't see why this guy would spend his time selling them to foreigners
on ebay when he could sell them in China for more money with less
hassle. Given that the Chinese have been experts at forgery for years, I
find it hard to believe that the 5000friend pots are not forgeries, even
if they are good ones.

Anyway, the only way to really resolve this is to have someone who is
expert with this stuff evaluate a few of the guy's pots.

Danica has posted about her experiences with him on here in the past;
she has been happy with some of the pots she's gotten from him. I wasn't
super happy with the one I got, but I haven't really used it in a while.

Anyway, if the pots brew good tea, I don't see any reason not to use
them... just don't think you're getting a steal on some priceless
treasure.

w

On Aug 13, 9:43 am, Will Yardley
wrote:
On 2007-08-12, Jazzy wrote:

On Aug 12, 3:15 pm, Balt wrote:
I do believe, that his pots are faked - they are not genuine old pots,
or at least they are "made used" probably with some colourings,
pigments or maybe worse. I bought 3 pots from him, one was new (no
problem), the other two were "old" but when I looked into one of them
I saw, that "tea stains" ended pretty sharply...

the picture looked rather weird with the tea stains...
i wonder why one would like to fakely make a used pot..

wouldn't it be easier to sell them as new.

No - because of the mystique of old pots, and the fact that old, well
seasoned pots are worth more. Now granted, an old, well seasoned, but
properly cared for pot probably wouldn't look as dirty as the 5000
friend ones, but the fact that they're dirty maybe makes people believe
they /could/ be as old as he's saying.

Plus, it would probably be easier to tell that the pot is not antique if
it's not tea-stained.

And going back to what you were saying in another post about preferring
clean pots... a well cared for, seasoned teapot can be worth more than
an equivalent new or used "clean" teapot. Also, many types of clay that
are prized (e.g., zhuni) are now extinct or hard to obtain, and the
processing of yixing clay has changed, so older pots (most of which are
used) are prized over "new" pots.

I could be wrong, but from what I've heard, teapots of this type and age
(if genuine) are worth a good amount of money, regardless of condition;
I don't see why this guy would spend his time selling them to foreigners
on ebay when he could sell them in China for more money with less
hassle. Given that the Chinese have been experts at forgery for years, I
find it hard to believe that the 5000friend pots are not forgeries, even
if they are good ones.

Anyway, the only way to really resolve this is to have someone who is
expert with this stuff evaluate a few of the guy's pots.

Danica has posted about her experiences with him on here in the past;
she has been happy with some of the pots she's gotten from him. I wasn't
super happy with the one I got, but I haven't really used it in a while.

Anyway, if the pots brew good tea, I don't see any reason not to use
them... just don't think you're getting a steal on some priceless
treasure.

w

i had eyes on his zhuni pots as well. i have heard that yixing teapots
are cheap in yixing and expensive elsewhere in China.
so seller in yixing can offer a low price for old teapots. Anyone has
any thoughts on that?

I wouldn't buy just any pot labeled zhuni from him. I have one pot
that an expert looked at said was 50s clay and a good pot, I paid $109
plus shipping for it, and also a really nice zini pot, larger, that
was $125. Both were good pots. I've also got some cheap pots from him
that make really great tea--one in particular makes killer high
altitude taiwan oolong. But the little cheapies he sells aren't great
quality--he has even dissuaded me from getting them and made
recommendations for better ones. He does claim that they are all
authentic yixing clay. Keep in mind zhu ni means red clay and it's
just that--not necessarily good quality.

He claims they are not forgeries and I have no real idea whether they
are or not, maybe it's the custom to lie there. But I can say with
proof that he has some nice pots; they just cost more.

On Aug 13, 11:18 pm, Jazzy wrote:
On Aug 13, 9:43 am, Will Yardley
wrote:



On 2007-08-12, Jazzy wrote:

On Aug 12, 3:15 pm, Balt wrote:
I do believe, that his pots are faked - they are not genuine old pots,
or at least they are "made used" probably with some colourings,
pigments or maybe worse. I bought 3 pots from him, one was new (no
problem), the other two were "old" but when I looked into one of them
I saw, that "tea stains" ended pretty sharply...

the picture looked rather weird with the tea stains...
i wonder why one would like to fakely make a used pot..

wouldn't it be easier to sell them as new.

No - because of the mystique of old pots, and the fact that old, well
seasoned pots are worth more. Now granted, an old, well seasoned, but
properly cared for pot probably wouldn't look as dirty as the 5000
friend ones, but the fact that they're dirty maybe makes people believe
they /could/ be as old as he's saying.

Plus, it would probably be easier to tell that the pot is not antique if
it's not tea-stained.

And going back to what you were saying in another post about preferring
clean pots... a well cared for, seasoned teapot can be worth more than
an equivalent new or used "clean" teapot. Also, many types of clay that
are prized (e.g., zhuni) are now extinct or hard to obtain, and the
processing of yixing clay has changed, so older pots (most of which are
used) are prized over "new" pots.

I could be wrong, but from what I've heard, teapots of this type and age
(if genuine) are worth a good amount of money, regardless of condition;
I don't see why this guy would spend his time selling them to foreigners
on ebay when he could sell them in China for more money with less
hassle. Given that the Chinese have been experts at forgery for years, I
find it hard to believe that the 5000friend pots are not forgeries, even
if they are good ones.

Anyway, the only way to really resolve this is to have someone who is
expert with this stuff evaluate a few of the guy's pots.

Danica has posted about her experiences with him on here in the past;
she has been happy with some of the pots she's gotten from him. I wasn't
super happy with the one I got, but I haven't really used it in a while.

Anyway, if the pots brew good tea, I don't see any reason not to use
them... just don't think you're getting a steal on some priceless
treasure.

w

i had eyes on his zhuni pots as well. i have heard that yixing teapots
are cheap in yixing and expensive elsewhere in China.
so seller in yixing can offer a low price for old teapots. Anyone has
any thoughts on that?