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HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)



 
 
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Old 28-07-2007, 05:44 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

Google Groups has added "Options" to the posts when you open them. One
is to "Report The Poster".
They then offer various descriptions of the offensive post and follow-
up with a confirmation email.
We have a friend in Google hierarchy who assures me that they are
taking this seriously.
Well, we'll see...................howver, I do encourage everyone who
comes into the group through Google Groups to report the obviously
offensive SPAM/ADULT CONTENT using the options available.
Maybe, if we all go after them using the available tools, we will be
taken seriously.
Hopefully,
Shen

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Old 28-07-2007, 06:57 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

finally, thanks
reported a couple

On Jul 28, 12:44 am, Shen wrote:
Google Groups has added "Options" to the posts when you open them. One
is to "Report The Poster".
They then offer various descriptions of the offensive post and follow-
up with a confirmation email.
We have a friend in Google hierarchy who assures me that they are
taking this seriously.
Well, we'll see...................howver, I do encourage everyone who
comes into the group through Google Groups to report the obviously
offensive SPAM/ADULT CONTENT using the options available.
Maybe, if we all go after them using the available tools, we will be
taken seriously.
Hopefully,
Shen



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Old 28-07-2007, 10:00 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
psyflake@yahoo.com
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

Maybe, if we all go after them using the available tools, we will be
taken seriously.
Hopefully,
Shen


Just wondering if something like a trans-group anti-spam coalition
would wake Google up to the problem.
In the upper right corner of my screen [google] there´s a link "About
this group". Clicking this link leads to the group statistics also
showing the top posters of that group.
Now lets assume that some of those guys enjoy spam as much as we do.
So to those of you interested in fighting this crap how about starting
something like a snowball system by sending mails to the top posters
of other groups, asking them to ask their group members to report spam
and to involve top posters of other groups ...
With a little luck this could produce a little anti-spam avalanche and
who knows ...

Karsten [Earl Grey in tazza grande]

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Old 28-07-2007, 10:13 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Magicleaf
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

I am behind the operation , just let us know what we have to do and as
a group we may have a better chance
Maurice

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Old 29-07-2007, 05:43 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Default Adult? (was: HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?))

Not that this is screamingly important, but: why would anyone outside
the porn industry want to use "adult" as a eumphemism? Isn't "adult"
a perfectly good word? I mean, I try to be adult a lot of the time...

Please understand, I mean no disrespect to the poster who introduced
the A word.

/Lew
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Old 29-07-2007, 05:46 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

Stefan Goetzinger writes:

[...]
Keep in mind that:

1. Most spam here is posted through Google Groups and
2. most Usenet servers run decent spam filters.

So you're dealing with a problem that's caused by Google and for the most
part can only be seen by those who read this group via Google Groups.


Oh, #2 is news to me, as I read Usenet from my ISP's Usenet server.
Could someone please estimate how many spam messages appear on GG RFDT
on a typical day?

/Lew
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Old 29-07-2007, 11:27 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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Default Adult? (was: HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?))

On Jul 29, 9:43 am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Not that this is screamingly important, but: why would anyone outside
the porn industry want to use "adult" as a eumphemism? Isn't "adult"
a perfectly good word? I mean, I try to be adult a lot of the time...

Please understand, I mean no disrespect to the poster who introduced
the A word.

/Lew
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Lew Perin /


It's not me - they (Google) call it "adult'. After all, I have no
personal gripe with porn. I know some folks do. I just don't like it
with my tea.
I didn't intro duce the "A" word. Good enough for Hawthorne! Google
seems to find it less offensive than "porn".
Lew, I realize I just defended Google and myself
childishly......................
Shen

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Old 30-07-2007, 01:52 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Lewis Perin
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Default Adult? (was: HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?))

Shen writes:

On Jul 29, 9:43 am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Not that this is screamingly important, but: why would anyone outside
the porn industry want to use "adult" as a eumphemism? Isn't "adult"
a perfectly good word? I mean, I try to be adult a lot of the time...

Please understand, I mean no disrespect to the poster who introduced
the A word.


It's not me - they (Google) call it "adult'. After all, I have no
personal gripe with porn. I know some folks do. I just don't like it
with my tea.


My sentiments exactly.

I didn't intro duce the "A" word. Good enough for Hawthorne! Google
seems to find it less offensive than "porn".


Probably because they don't want to offend their clients among the
porn suppliers.

Lew, I realize I just defended Google and myself
childishly......................


Well, Google's so ubiquitous these days, it's hard to defend yourself
without defending Google, I suppose. And it's mandatory to be
"childish" around "adult" content.

/Lew
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Old 31-07-2007, 12:49 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default Adult? (was: HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?))

It's not me - they (Google) call it "adult'. After all, I have no
personal gripe with porn. I know some folks do. I just don't like it
with my tea.


My sentiments exactly.


It's not so safe, is it, unless it's iced tea?

Phyll


On Jul 29, 5:52 pm, Lewis Perin wrote:
Shen writes:
On Jul 29, 9:43 am, Lewis Perin wrote:
Not that this is screamingly important, but: why would anyone outside
the porn industry want to use "adult" as a eumphemism? Isn't "adult"
a perfectly good word? I mean, I try to be adult a lot of the time...


Please understand, I mean no disrespect to the poster who introduced
the A word.


It's not me - they (Google) call it "adult'. After all, I have no
personal gripe with porn. I know some folks do. I just don't like it
with my tea.


My sentiments exactly.

I didn't intro duce the "A" word. Good enough for Hawthorne! Google
seems to find it less offensive than "porn".


Probably because they don't want to offend their clients among the
porn suppliers.

Lew, I realize I just defended Google and myself
childishly......................


Well, Google's so ubiquitous these days, it's hard to defend yourself
without defending Google, I suppose. And it's mandatory to be
"childish" around "adult" content.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /



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Old 31-07-2007, 02:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

wrote:

Just wondering if something like a trans-group anti-spam coalition
would wake Google up to the problem.


You're a decade too late for that. Google doesn't care about Usenet any
longer. It was a big deal for them a few years after they bought Altavista
but now they have bigger fish to fry. You talk to guys over there and most
of them won't even know what Usenet is.

In the upper right corner of my screen [google] there=B4s a link "About
this group". Clicking this link leads to the group statistics also
showing the top posters of that group.
Now lets assume that some of those guys enjoy spam as much as we do.
So to those of you interested in fighting this crap how about starting
something like a snowball system by sending mails to the top posters
of other groups, asking them to ask their group members to report spam
and to involve top posters of other groups ...


The problem is that _reporting_ the spam doesn't do any good when the
reports are ignored. And if you look at the headers, most of the spam
is coming from Google. And they ignore complaints about their major
spam problem.

You are much better off just getting an account on a Usenet server that
runs cleanfeed, and you won't see any of the junk at all.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:29 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
psyflake@yahoo.com
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On Jul 31, 3:31 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
wrote:

Just wondering if something like a trans-group anti-spam coalition
would wake Google up to the problem.


You're a decade too late for that. Google doesn't care about Usenet any
longer. It was a big deal for them a few years after they bought Altavista
but now they have bigger fish to fry. You talk to guys over there and most
of them won't even know what Usenet is.


Never mind, once in a while something odd reanimates the old mutineer
in me.

You are much better off just getting an account on a Usenet server that
runs cleanfeed, and you won't see any of the junk at all.
--scott


Thanks for pointing that out as I have no idea of any coexistent
services in that regard.
Any suggestions ? Sorry if that has been discussed before, but as I´m
constantly on the move I wonder if there´s a web based service with
download/synchronization options.
Anyone ?

TIA, Karsten [Twinings Earl Grey in tazza grande]

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Old 03-08-2007, 07:52 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Scott Dorsey
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Default HOW TO HELP ELIMINATE SPAM AND ADULT CONTENT (MAYBE?)

wrote:

You are much better off just getting an account on a Usenet server that
runs cleanfeed, and you won't see any of the junk at all.


Thanks for pointing that out as I have no idea of any coexistent
services in that regard.
Any suggestions ? Sorry if that has been discussed before, but as I=B4m
constantly on the move I wonder if there=B4s a web based service with
download/synchronization options.


You probably don't want a web based service. As long as you are carrying
around your own computer with your own .newsrc file, it should not matter
where you are if you are using a big NNTP provider like Supernews or
Giganews.

Anyone ?


There is some info on http://www.exit109.com/~jeremy/news/.../shopping.html
Another alternative is to take the luddite approach and use a remote shell
service like I am doing. This means you can log in from anywhere in the
world and all your files and data are right there on the server. No GUI,
though.
--scott

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