Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

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Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

wrote in message
s.com...
On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous
CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the
Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something
about Puer it hasn't been said before.

Jim

On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
wrote in message

s.com...



On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous
CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the
Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something
about Puer it hasn't been said before.

Jim

On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
wrote in message

s.com...



On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Don't hold me too it. I'm a little gun shy about not being correct
about everything I say. Since we're talking about CNNP it might just
be the red Zhong green Cha seal which simply means a tea from China.
I also think those two colors are recent years so from the nineties I
would expect them to be different. If there are characters it should
say the factory. I seem to remember I bought some CNNP by the QiZi
tong and one of the bings had a slip saying Xiaguan. I think the rest
were the ZhongCha red\green seal. Or I'm thinking about bings in
general which indicate the factory information on the embedded slip.

Jim

PS Everytime I drink tea and do taxes I always wonder what would make
us throw a tea party today.

On Apr 5, 8:15 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
....puer pigeon hole...

Hey, no law suit pending I can assure you ;-))

Anyway I might be able to de-cypher the nei fei myself using a few
notes/book I have. Its not THAT important to find out precisely where the
cake was made. Just curious mainly.

I keep records of what I buy, when I buy it and from whom etc, any other
info I can glean is simply a bonus. I scan the cake and print the image
and some details on an A5 card and keep them all in a folder. Also helps me
remember which tea is what !

Most of the vendors I buy tea from specify who made the tea or where it came
from. Just with this one I lucked out - so far.

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Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Don't hold me too it. I'm a little gun shy about not being correct
about everything I say. Since we're talking about CNNP it might just
be the red Zhong green Cha seal which simply means a tea from China.
I also think those two colors are recent years so from the nineties I
would expect them to be different. If there are characters it should
say the factory. I seem to remember I bought some CNNP by the QiZi
tong and one of the bings had a slip saying Xiaguan. I think the rest
were the ZhongCha red\green seal. Or I'm thinking about bings in
general which indicate the factory information on the embedded slip.

Jim

PS Everytime I drink tea and do taxes I always wonder what would make
us throw a tea party today.

On Apr 5, 8:15 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do"Space Cowboy"
wrote in message
...puer pigeon hole...

Here the URL to the neifei image....
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/data/4/2...06171 158.jpg

Does this provide any more clues as to it's origin ?

TIA

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Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Mal from Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous
CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the
Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something
about Puer it hasn't been said before.

Jim

On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
wrote in message

s.com...



On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code
'1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

See, I'm learning !

http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Mal from Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous
CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the
Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something
about Puer it hasn't been said before.

Jim

On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
wrote in message

s.com...



On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code
'1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory.

Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Anybody famliar with a factory called 'Lin Pao Cha' or something similarly
sounding ?

Possibly makes or made Tou Cha ?

--
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Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Mal from Oz" wrote in message
...
See, I'm learning !

http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew

--
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Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Mal from Oz" wrote in message
...
Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of
this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog.

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous
CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the
Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something
about Puer it hasn't been said before.

Jim

On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
wrote in message

s.com...



On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read
this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code
'1').

However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea
Import &
Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to
2004

Can someone please clarify?

--
Cheers
Mal
Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do

Which part of the 90s?

"...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming
Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan.
These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own
production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was
not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea
Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small
factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea
Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory
was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and
its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses.
The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do
with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea
Regions & the factories, Chapter 7.

The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an
idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory.

I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more
associated
with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure
that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory
Danny

Danny,
The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So
does
that help anybody identify where this tea originated ?

--
Chee

The first line:
China National Native Produce Animal By-Products Import Export
Corporation

The second line:
Yunnan Tea Branch

That's what it says on one of my CNNP neifei. So it looks like you
don't get the factory name in this case. I do get the Xiaguan factory
name on my CNNP neifei with the same info above on the wrapper. I
also remember the golden cha character as being representative of 90's
puer from what I remember being sold on TaoBao.

Jim


On Apr 6, 1:24 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
See, I'm learning !

http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew

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Mal

Thanks for the xlation, looks like this one needs to go down as 'somewhere
in Yunnan' ;-))

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Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
The first line:
China National Native Produce Animal By-Products Import Export
Corporation

The second line:
Yunnan Tea Branch

That's what it says on one of my CNNP neifei. So it looks like you
don't get the factory name in this case. I do get the Xiaguan factory
name on my CNNP neifei with the same info above on the wrapper. I
also remember the golden cha character as being representative of 90's
puer from what I remember being sold on TaoBao.

Jim


On Apr 6, 1:24 am, "Mal from Oz" wrote:
See, I'm learning !

http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew

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Mal