My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

On Apr 2, 4:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:
My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

The claims are unfounded. (Wu lung and oolong are just variants on the
transliteration of the same Chinese ideogram.)

As for weight loss, there is zero reliable scientific evidence to
support the claim. That said, anyone who switches from coffee with
cream or tea with sugar and milk to any whole leaf tea will be making
a small and positive contribution to weight control. A cup of tea is
maybe 1-2 carbs, 0 fats and 0 sodium. There are several hundred oolong
available on line; it's a wonderful type of tea with many variants in
style and flavor.

On Apr 2, 1:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:
My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

Here goes: Wu-long IS oolong (for all intents and purposes. The stuff
being marketted as "Wu-long for Weight Loss" tends to be really poor
quality oolong sprayed with artificial flavours to appeal (or
hoodwink) the American market that tends to jump on a "quick-fix"
bandwagon and loves artificially flavoured anything.
ALL tea supports metabolic balance. Pu-erh studies have held up
favorably to all the cholesterol and fat metabolism questions. Green
tea is full of polyphenols (all tea has polyphenols) and tea, in
general, has an amino acid (L-theanine)that helps with emotional well-
being.
A cup of tea at the end of a meal does have positive metabolic
qualities.
Tell her to buy a decent quality oolong or pu-erh (discover a type she
really enjoys), brew it properly, and have a cup or a small pot. Tea,
like anything, needs to be appreciated in moderation. There are a few
drawbacks to having too much of a good thing. (see the archives).
Happy sipping!
Shen, N.D.

On Apr 2, 1:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:
My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

BTW, just checked out the link: there is no real description of the
quality of the tea and this vendor hass yet to mentioned on this list.
That would be a sign for me since vendors are really grilled by the
pros here as to ethics, fairness and quality.
Shen

On Apr 2, 2:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:
My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

For fun, I went and talked to the online help folks that represent the
company. As predicted, they weren't able to supply any information on
the tea, when I asked what sort of Oolong it was, they took about 10
minutes, got another representative on the line, and the sum total of
the info they had was 'it's from China'. According to the website
there's nothing added, but according to their customer service they do
add cinnamon at least. So, the company itself verifies in part what
other posters here have said.

I like making people who represent something semi-bogus squirm a bit,
so I enjoyed my conversation quite a lot.

On Apr 2, 8:04 pm, "TeaDave" wrote:
On Apr 2, 2:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:

My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

For fun, I went and talked to the online help folks that represent the
company. As predicted, they weren't able to supply any information on
the tea, when I asked what sort of Oolong it was, they took about 10
minutes, got another representative on the line, and the sum total of
the info they had was 'it's from China'. According to the website
there's nothing added, but according to their customer service they do
add cinnamon at least. So, the company itself verifies in part what
other posters here have said.

I like making people who represent something semi-bogus squirm a bit,
so I enjoyed my conversation quite a lot.

This is really a shame. All over the web and all over eBay, people are
selling this stuff and often for outrageous prices.
I'm glad you questioned this vendor.
God knows what's in all that stuff! I've seen it advertised with
innumerable flavours.
Cinnamon, btw, is often used in Chinese medicine as a warming spice
and tends to stimulate the bowels. Maybe that's the "fast loss"
component.
Shen

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On Apr 2, 8:04 pm, "TeaDave" wrote:
On Apr 2, 2:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:

My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

For fun, I went and talked to the online help folks that represent the
company. As predicted, they weren't able to supply any information on
the tea, when I asked what sort of Oolong it was, they took about 10
minutes, got another representative on the line, and the sum total of
the info they had was 'it's from China'. According to the website
there's nothing added, but according to their customer service they do
add cinnamon at least. So, the company itself verifies in part what
other posters here have said.

I like making people who represent something semi-bogus squirm a bit,
so I enjoyed my conversation quite a lot.

This is really a shame. All over the web and all over eBay, people are
selling this stuff and often for outrageous prices.
I'm glad you questioned this vendor.
God knows what's in all that stuff! I've seen it advertised with
innumerable flavours.
Cinnamon, btw, is often used in Chinese medicine as a warming spice
and tends to stimulate the bowels. Maybe that's the "fast loss"
component.
Shen


I don't care what they put in it, nothing's going to make a person lose
almost 5 pounds a week in any kind of healthy manner.

I drink more than three cups of da hong pao oolong tea a day these
days...heh, it's not really making a difference for me. Other than tasting
good. Which is all I ask of it.

Melinda

Ditto - all is does for me is make me run to the lav a few times more than
normal ;-)) - but I feel great !

--
Cheers
Mal
Oz
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do
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On Apr 2, 8:04 pm, "TeaDave" wrote:
On Apr 2, 2:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:

My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

For fun, I went and talked to the online help folks that represent the
company. As predicted, they weren't able to supply any information on
the tea, when I asked what sort of Oolong it was, they took about 10
minutes, got another representative on the line, and the sum total of
the info they had was 'it's from China'. According to the website
there's nothing added, but according to their customer service they do
add cinnamon at least. So, the company itself verifies in part what
other posters here have said.

I like making people who represent something semi-bogus squirm a bit,
so I enjoyed my conversation quite a lot.

This is really a shame. All over the web and all over eBay, people are
selling this stuff and often for outrageous prices.
I'm glad you questioned this vendor.
God knows what's in all that stuff! I've seen it advertised with
innumerable flavours.
Cinnamon, btw, is often used in Chinese medicine as a warming spice
and tends to stimulate the bowels. Maybe that's the "fast loss"
component.
Shen


I don't care what they put in it, nothing's going to make a person lose
almost 5 pounds a week in any kind of healthy manner.

I drink more than three cups of da hong pao oolong tea a day these
days...heh, it's not really making a difference for me. Other than tasting
good. Which is all I ask of it.

Melinda

Rob wrote:
My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.

It's the same thing, yes.

Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

This page basically tells nothing about the tea. Most "slimming teas"
have something added to them to make them into a mild laxative, and are
not pure tea. I can't see anything on this site saying that this is
anything other than pure tea, though.

That said, tea CAN be an effective weight loss aid. Caffeine perks you
up and gives you energy. The tea keeps you feeling full when you have
not eaten. Tea is quiet and contemplative and gives you something to
keep in your hand that isn't a doughnut.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

On Apr 2, 4:39 pm, "Shen" wrote:
On Apr 2, 1:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:

My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

Here goes: Wu-long IS oolong (for all intents and purposes. The stuff
being marketted as "Wu-long for Weight Loss" tends to be really poor
quality oolong sprayed with artificial flavours to appeal (or
hoodwink) the American market that tends to jump on a "quick-fix"
bandwagon and loves artificially flavoured anything.
ALL tea supports metabolic balance. Pu-erh studies have held up
favorably to all the cholesterol and fat metabolism questions. Green
tea is full of polyphenols (all tea has polyphenols) and tea, in
general, has an amino acid (L-theanine)that helps with emotional well-
being.
A cup of tea at the end of a meal does have positive metabolic
qualities.
Tell her to buy a decent quality oolong or pu-erh (discover a type she
really enjoys), brew it properly, and have a cup or a small pot. Tea,
like anything, needs to be appreciated in moderation. There are a few
drawbacks to having too much of a good thing. (see the archives).
Happy sipping!
Shen, N.D.

Thanks! We have Oolong tea. It isnt loose leaf though. It comes in
bags. I suppose to be a purist we should go loos leaf, right? What
about stevia being used as a sweetner?
Rob

The only scientific evidence I've seen supporting the weight loss
claim from tea is the mild diuretic effect. Just in the couple past
of years have I come to appreciate the fact that there is a tea for
every food which helps the moderation. Probably the water volume
curbs appetite more than the tea. I think in general people don't
appreciate a glass of water and how much better it tastes with tea. I
consume about three liters a day which means I don't have time for
gongfu. As I always say if it keeps me alive another day longer for
another 3 liters it didn't cost me anything extra except what I would
have spent anyway. I think the pollution argument is the same for any
food supply. I don't understand why Joe Camel is less cool than Coke
teaching the world to sing.

Jim

On Apr 2, 3:39 pm, "Shen" wrote:
Here goes: Wu-long IS oolong (for all intents and purposes. The stuff
being marketted as "Wu-long for Weight Loss" tends to be really poor
quality oolong sprayed with artificial flavours to appeal (or
hoodwink) the American market that tends to jump on a "quick-fix"
bandwagon and loves artificially flavoured anything.
ALL tea supports metabolic balance. Pu-erh studies have held up
favorably to all the cholesterol and fat metabolism questions. Green
tea is full of polyphenols (all tea has polyphenols) and tea, in
general, has an amino acid (L-theanine)that helps with emotional well-
being.
A cup of tea at the end of a meal does have positive metabolic
qualities.
Tell her to buy a decent quality oolong or pu-erh (discover a type she
really enjoys), brew it properly, and have a cup or a small pot. Tea,
like anything, needs to be appreciated in moderation. There are a few
drawbacks to having too much of a good thing. (see the archives).
Happy sipping!
Shen, N.D.

Rob wrote:

Thanks! We have Oolong tea. It isnt loose leaf though. It comes in
bags. I suppose to be a purist we should go loos leaf, right?

I dunno. Try it in bags and see. If you don't like it, try loose leaf.

What
about stevia being used as a sweetner?

Sweeteners are bad, and hide the taste of the tea. If you think you need
a sweetener, something is wrong (most often the tea is too tannic).
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Space Cowboy wrote:
The only scientific evidence I've seen supporting the weight loss
claim from tea is the mild diuretic effect.

Try it. Take a control group drinking sugary sodas, and a test group
drinking oolong tea, and I bet a dollar that you see a difference between
the two groups.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Try it. Take a control group drinking sugary sodas, and a test group
drinking oolong tea, and I bet a dollar that you see a difference between
the two groups.
--scott

Sure, I'd bet there would be a difference too, but you're either
masking or leaving out quite a few variables in such an experiment.
First of all, sodas have hundreds of calories, tea doesn't (or has
very few, anyway). Also, tea and sodas have dramatically different
amounts of other ingredients, which could also effect weight loss/
gain.

A better experiment would be to have one group drink tea and one group
drink water. This way, only one variable is changed: the ingredients
(besides water) that one drinks in tea. I seriously doubt you will
see much difference in weight loss between the groups, assuming they
have similar lifestyles, exercise routines, diets, etc.

On Apr 3, 8:43 am, "Rob" wrote:
On Apr 2, 4:39 pm, "Shen" wrote:





On Apr 2, 1:12 pm, "Rob" wrote:

My wife is all excited about "Wu Long" tea. She said she heard about
it on Oprah. I am familiar with Oolong tea.
Here is the website she was ordering from.( I stopped her from
ordering until I found out more about it.) Any truth to the calims of
weight loss?

http://tinyurl.com/2hj8fn

Here goes: Wu-long IS oolong (for all intents and purposes. The stuff
being marketted as "Wu-long for Weight Loss" tends to be really poor
quality oolong sprayed with artificial flavours to appeal (or
hoodwink) the American market that tends to jump on a "quick-fix"
bandwagon and loves artificially flavoured anything.
ALL tea supports metabolic balance. Pu-erh studies have held up
favorably to all the cholesterol and fat metabolism questions. Green
tea is full of polyphenols (all tea has polyphenols) and tea, in
general, has an amino acid (L-theanine)that helps with emotional well-
being.
A cup of tea at the end of a meal does have positive metabolic
qualities.
Tell her to buy a decent quality oolong or pu-erh (discover a type she
really enjoys), brew it properly, and have a cup or a small pot. Tea,
like anything, needs to be appreciated in moderation. There are a few
drawbacks to having too much of a good thing. (see the archives).
Happy sipping!
Shen, N.D.

Thanks! We have Oolong tea. It isnt loose leaf though. It comes in
bags. I suppose to be a purist we should go loos leaf, right? What
about stevia being used as a sweetner?
Rob- Hide quoted text -

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Geez.....................oolong in bags! Uck!
Buy some good oolong. It goes very far and is not a major investment.
You can get several infusions from a good tea that will hold flavour.
Don't use stevia unless you absolutely have to - it's a very powerful
taste that will overwhelm the delicacy and complexities of a good
oolong. Look at it as an investment in your well-being, emotionally
and physically.
And, yes - there are innumerable studies of tea as a health benefit.
Do an NIH search or Medline or JAMA or Lancet.........
it is full of bioflavanoids and lingams. 2% of a tea leaf is embodied
with L-theanine. There are benefits alone from the fact that it is
alkaline. Soda pop is not. Pop is full of phosphates that destroy bone
stability and waste minerals.
Personally, I have lost weight since tea became the primary beverage
in my life. One thing I do know for sure is that I slow down. I relish
the entire ritual of tea-making, sipping, and actually being aware of
what's in my mouth. That awareness alone enhances the experience of
eating and drinking and supports a more conscious attitude toward your
body's well-being.
I would also check out all the pu-erh studies done in China that show
real effects of pu-erh on cholesterol and saturated fats.
Be well.
Shen