Fannings are a natural grade that occurs even in the best regulated
orthodox production - the skill with this process is to reduce these
secondary grades and to maximize the leaf grades. Makaibari will make
some - around 5-8% perhaps but will rather sell them at auction where
they will bought for blending and packing into tea bags than supply
them to specialty tea customers.

Nigel at Teacraft


On Apr 2, 4:03 pm, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

I'd bet if you call Makaibari and ask for fannings they might even have
some. There's not much of a demand.
--scott

Lipton Green label is definitely not CTC. It is leaf and very
consistently blended for those who want decent DJ without too much
effort. It is close to 2nd and 3rd flush DJ's. Connoisseur is good to
(they are almost the same to me).

Isn't Connoisseur made by Brooke Bond? It has been a while since I used
these products..

Space Cowboy wrote:
I think Lipton's Green Label is CTC. I drink their Connoisseur
version which is BOP. Assam is often CTC because it is the base tea
for Chai. I don't remember any Kenya tea being CTC. Ceylon
commercial teas are often CTC. I see someone else shouting Darjeeling
is Orthodox. Okay it doesn't do any good to crush fines.

Jim

On Mar 31, 2:29 pm, "Melinda" wrote:
"Space Cowboy" wrote in message

oups.com...

Commercial Darjeelings are much stronger and more robust than estate
Darjeeling flushes. The CTC grade are lumps of coal. They meet the
definition of fully oxidized black Darjeeling. Estate flushes are
oolong in oxidation making them more mild. If you want a stronger
estate Darjeeling you add more tea. Crushing won't help. My
suggestion brew the flush longer.
Jim
I thought CTC only existed in Assam and some Kenyan teas?

Melinda

On Apr 2, 11:21 pm, "Phyll" wrote:
On Apr 1, 10:35 pm, "Ankit Lochan" wrote:

Do not crush your fine tea - its utter wastage of fine tea through
incompetent manipulation!

Matcha producers must be nuts! :-D

Phyll

On Apr 1, 10:35 pm, "Ankit Lochan" wrote:



Darjeeling produces 11.5 million kilos of tea - Approx. - 1.2% of the
total tea production of India.

89 gardens in total produce darjeeling tea.

Darjeeling " DOES NOT PRODUCE ANY CTC TEAS"

If you want a stronger darjeeling instead of crushing the nice Whole
Leaf grade buy the broken or fanings grade - these are available at
1/3 the price of the whole leaf tea and will give you a nice strong
cup.

Do not crush your fine tea - its utter wastage of fine tea through
incompetent manipulation!

If you really wanna get the best darjeeling from any vendor ask him if
he is selling a certified darjeeling.

The tea board of India issue a licence alongwith a number and inspects
all teas that the vendor buys from the country. These Darjeelings are
orignal - of the best quality called Certified Darjeelings.

www.lotusteahouse.com----- is one of the vendors who has this
license in the USA.

Have a nice day!

Ankit Lochanwww.lochantea.comwww.doketea.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

dear phyll,

i thought we were talking about 1st flush darjeelings and i had
replied in that context.

ankit lochan

In the future I'll make a note of which commercial DJ are CTC and stop
guessing. Lipton makes Connoisseur which is my favorite commercial
DJ. BB has a good version but hard to find. My local tea shoppe
carries the major estates which my wife likes. My local tea shoppe
opened in it's new digs. The cafe is more prominent with expanded
menu. I bought some Snow Buds from Zheijiang. It's the first green I
thought had a creamy finish. Also recently I bought some White Monkey
King Green. The owner is starting to sell the less known Chinese teas
that are available through retail.

Jim

On Apr 3, 5:15 pm, Aloke Prasad
wrote:
Lipton Green label is definitely not CTC. It is leaf and very
consistently blended for those who want decent DJ without too much
effort. It is close to 2nd and 3rd flush DJ's. Connoisseur is good to
(they are almost the same to me).

Isn't Connoisseur made by Brooke Bond? It has been a while since I used
these products..



Space Cowboy wrote:
I think Lipton's Green Label is CTC. I drink their Connoisseur
version which is BOP. Assam is often CTC because it is the base tea
for Chai. I don't remember any Kenya tea being CTC. Ceylon
commercial teas are often CTC. I see someone else shouting Darjeeling
is Orthodox. Okay it doesn't do any good to crush fines.

Jim

Hi Ankit,

I know. I was merely joking with my matcha comment (sorry, maybe not
funny). I personally agree and prefer letting whole leaves stay
whole, but also encourage experimentation to suit one's likings. I
was merely pointing out to the original poster that there are very
experienced tea connoisseurs who crush some of their tea leaves
(specific tea ony) to achieve a certain taste effect.

With tea (and wine), it's always exciting to learn other people's way
of brewing and drinking (pairing Champagne with potato chips,
anyone?)...and who's to say what's right and wrong.

I guess I always challenge anybody who says "don't do that," and more
accepting to comments like "try it and see if you like it." After
all, we are only talking about a beverage we call tea.

Phyll



On Apr 4, 12:49 am, "Ankit Lochan" wrote:
On Apr 2, 11:21 pm, "Phyll" wrote:





On Apr 1, 10:35 pm, "Ankit Lochan" wrote:

Do not crush your fine tea - its utter wastage of fine tea through
incompetent manipulation!

Matcha producers must be nuts! :-D

Phyll

On Apr 1, 10:35 pm, "Ankit Lochan" wrote:

Darjeeling produces 11.5 million kilos of tea - Approx. - 1.2% of the
total tea production of India.

89 gardens in total produce darjeeling tea.

Darjeeling " DOES NOT PRODUCE ANY CTC TEAS"

If you want a stronger darjeeling instead of crushing the nice Whole
Leaf grade buy the broken or fanings grade - these are available at
1/3 the price of the whole leaf tea and will give you a nice strong
cup.

Do not crush your fine tea - its utter wastage of fine tea through
incompetent manipulation!

If you really wanna get the best darjeeling from any vendor ask him if
he is selling a certified darjeeling.

The tea board of India issue a licence alongwith a number and inspects
all teas that the vendor buys from the country. These Darjeelings are
orignal - of the best quality called Certified Darjeelings.

www.lotusteahouse.com-----is one of the vendors who has this
license in the USA.

Have a nice day!

Ankit Lochanwww.lochantea.comwww.doketea.com-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

dear phyll,

i thought we were talking about 1st flush darjeelings and i had
replied in that context.

ankit lochan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm going to do a taste test with Makaibari 1st flush and report back.
I'll try to keep everything the same except crushing the tea leaves (by
hand+fingers, not in a pestle or something) for one of the cups.

Hooray for science.

Phyll wrote:
Hi Ankit,

I know. I was merely joking with my matcha comment (sorry, maybe not
funny). I personally agree and prefer letting whole leaves stay
whole, but also encourage experimentation to suit one's likings. I
was merely pointing out to the original poster that there are very
experienced tea connoisseurs who crush some of their tea leaves
(specific tea ony) to achieve a certain taste effect.

With tea (and wine), it's always exciting to learn other people's way
of brewing and drinking (pairing Champagne with potato chips,
anyone?)...and who's to say what's right and wrong.

I guess I always challenge anybody who says "don't do that," and more
accepting to comments like "try it and see if you like it." After
all, we are only talking about a beverage we call tea.

Phyll