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Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?



 
 
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Old 22-02-2007, 01:31 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


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Old 22-02-2007, 03:13 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Old 22-02-2007, 03:29 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Feb 22, 7:13 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


I understand "Silk" is available in the UK and they manufacture a very
good soy creamer. So does "Wildwood", although I do not know if they
are available abroad.
Shen

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Old 22-02-2007, 05:28 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

Have advanced prostate cancer with metastasis. Been advised No dairy or
soya.
Tried Oat milk, but horrible in tea and coffee.
Will have a look for the almond milk though - tried rice milk too - altered
the taste of the coffee - and it curdled.
Thanks for your reply Scott.
Hugh.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message
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Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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Old 22-02-2007, 05:30 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

If it's derived from Soya - I can't use it.
Thanks anyway Shen.
Hugh.

" I understand "Silk" is available in the UK and they manufacture a very
good soy creamer. So does "Wildwood", although I do not know if they
are available abroad.
Shen



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Old 22-02-2007, 06:10 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Scott Dorsey
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Have advanced prostate cancer with metastasis. Been advised No dairy or
soya.


Wow. Bad combination of things to avoid.

Tried Oat milk, but horrible in tea and coffee.
Will have a look for the almond milk though - tried rice milk too - altered
the taste of the coffee - and it curdled.


The almond and rice milk will both alter the taste, but then so does
real milk for that matter. I have had tea made with rice milk and it was
very different, but not unpleasant. Never tried coffeee.

I think you'll find almond milk has even more of a change in taste than
the rice milk, but it might not be a bad one.
--scott


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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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Old 22-02-2007, 09:40 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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On Feb 22, 9:30 am, "Hugh Kearnley"
wrote:
If it's derived from Soya - I can't use it.
Thanks anyway Shen.
Hugh.

" I understand "Silk" is available in the UK and they manufacture a very



good soy creamer. So does "Wildwood", although I do not know if they
are available abroad.
Shen- Hide quoted text -


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So sorry. I misunderstood. I thought you were looking for a soy
creamer.
I would go for the almond milk. You can even make a good nut milk with
a soy milk maker. That way, you can control the "thickness". Use raw
nuts so you get some nutritional support and less "roasted almond
flavor". Raw nut milk can taste very neutral. Commercial rice milks
are difficult to get anywhere without a good dose of sugar in them.
Shen

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Old 22-02-2007, 09:50 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Shen[_2_]
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

On Feb 22, 7:13 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


BTW, Hugh,
I would check on the phytoestrogens in grains and nuts. Come to think
of it, nuts probably are higher in phytoestrogens due to the higher
fat content. Fat tends to hold onto estrogens and phytoestrogen. I do
recall that grains, nuts and even tea have some levels of
phytoestrogen (isoflavones resembling human estrogen).
I don't want to get into documenting all this - last time I stated a
professional well-being opinion, there was a little too much argument.
However, the foods higher in phytoestrogens, particularly isoflavones
(there are two types:isoflavones and lingans), are well-documented on
the web.
Be well.
Shen

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Old 23-02-2007, 08:39 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Danica
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

If you would be willing to take a little time to make your own, you
can soak one cup of almonds overnight in water, puree them in a
blender with two cups of water, then strain through cheesecloth or
pantyhose. It will be a delicious, sweet creamer and lasts 3-5 days.

On Feb 22, 9:28 am, "Hugh Kearnley"
wrote:
Have advanced prostate cancer with metastasis. Been advised No dairy or
soya.
Tried Oat milk, but horrible in tea and coffee.
Will have a look for the almond milk though - tried rice milk too - altered
the taste of the coffee - and it curdled.
Thanks for your reply Scott.
Hugh.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...

Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?


You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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Old 23-02-2007, 11:49 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

I've got a whole box of 'raw' almonds in the cupboard.
I'll have a go at that right now!
Thankyou Danica.
Hughie.

"Danica" wrote in message
oups.com...
If you would be willing to take a little time to make your own, you
can soak one cup of almonds overnight in water, puree them in a
blender with two cups of water, then strain through cheesecloth or
pantyhose. It will be a delicious, sweet creamer and lasts 3-5 days.

On Feb 22, 9:28 am, "Hugh Kearnley"
wrote:
Have advanced prostate cancer with metastasis. Been advised No dairy or
soya.
Tried Oat milk, but horrible in tea and coffee.
Will have a look for the almond milk though - tried rice milk too -
altered
the taste of the coffee - and it curdled.
Thanks for your reply Scott.
Hugh.

"Scott Dorsey" wrote in message

...

Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?


You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott


--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."





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Old 23-02-2007, 11:51 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

I will do that Shen - Phytoestrogens in Soya - reason I can't use the stuff,
or I'd be happy to use soya.
Thanks again for the Info.
Hughie.

"Shen" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 22, 7:13 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?


Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


BTW, Hugh,
I would check on the phytoestrogens in grains and nuts. Come to think
of it, nuts probably are higher in phytoestrogens due to the higher
fat content. Fat tends to hold onto estrogens and phytoestrogen. I do
recall that grains, nuts and even tea have some levels of
phytoestrogen (isoflavones resembling human estrogen).
I don't want to get into documenting all this - last time I stated a
professional well-being opinion, there was a little too much argument.
However, the foods higher in phytoestrogens, particularly isoflavones
(there are two types:isoflavones and lingans), are well-documented on
the web.
Be well.
Shen



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Old 24-02-2007, 12:31 AM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
H C Polyp
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

"Hugh Kearnley" wrote in
:

I will do that Shen - Phytoestrogens in Soya - reason I can't use the
stuff, or I'd be happy to use soya.
Thanks again for the Info.
Hughie.

"Shen" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 22, 7:13 am, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
Hugh Kearnley wrote:
Is there such a thing and is it available in the UK?

Why do you want it?

You could try rice milk, or almond milk.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


BTW, Hugh,
I would check on the phytoestrogens in grains and nuts. Come to think
of it, nuts probably are higher in phytoestrogens due to the higher
fat content. Fat tends to hold onto estrogens and phytoestrogen. I do
recall that grains, nuts and even tea have some levels of
phytoestrogen (isoflavones resembling human estrogen).
I don't want to get into documenting all this - last time I stated a
professional well-being opinion, there was a little too much
argument. However, the foods higher in phytoestrogens, particularly
isoflavones (there are two types:isoflavones and lingans), are
well-documented on the web.
Be well.
Shen


As a cancer survivor (for now), let me add a message of support for what
you must going through, in addition to the posts of those who have already
helped.

If you must avoid phytoestrogens, then I would suggest exploring the
possibility of Chinese teas that can be enjoyed without creamers, just to
be on the safe side. That's pretty much what I did -- masalai chai made
with soy (or even almond milk) just doesn't taste as rewarding to me ...

BTW, I don't know if you have a Gilda's Club accessible to you, but I make
a practice of recommending them to everyone who's going through this. They
have done a lot for me & provide useful information and instruction, such
as many doctors, with all the best intentions and skill, simply don't have
(or, being mortal themselves, cannot relate to full-time) -- what it feels
like to be where you are. A list of clubs can be found at:

http://www.gildasclub.org/WhereToFindUs/FindUs/tabid/115/Default.aspx

Some emotional support is as necessary as medical skill in cases such as
ours.

Ozzy

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Old 24-02-2007, 03:10 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Hugh Kearnley
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

Hello and thankyou for your words of support.
Unfortunately - I live in Scotland and there are no Gilda's Clubs here.
We DO however, have 'MAGGIE' centres that do just about the same job.
Thanks.
Hughie

"H C Polyp" wrote in message
6...
As a cancer survivor (for now), let me add a message of support for what
you must going through, in addition to the posts of those who have already
helped.

If you must avoid phytoestrogens, then I would suggest exploring the
possibility of Chinese teas that can be enjoyed without creamers, just to
be on the safe side. That's pretty much what I did -- masalai chai made
with soy (or even almond milk) just doesn't taste as rewarding to me ...

BTW, I don't know if you have a Gilda's Club accessible to you, but I make
a practice of recommending them to everyone who's going through this. They
have done a lot for me & provide useful information and instruction, such
as many doctors, with all the best intentions and skill, simply don't have
(or, being mortal themselves, cannot relate to full-time) -- what it feels
like to be where you are. A list of clubs can be found at:

http://www.gildasclub.org/WhereToFindUs/FindUs/tabid/115/Default.aspx

Some emotional support is as necessary as medical skill in cases such as
ours.

Ozzy



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Old 24-02-2007, 07:02 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
Ozzy
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Default Dairy/Soya free coffee & tea creamer?

"Hugh Kearnley" wrote in
:

Hello and thankyou for your words of support.
Unfortunately - I live in Scotland and there are no Gilda's Clubs
here. We DO however, have 'MAGGIE' centres that do just about the same
job. Thanks.
Hughie


I should have recognized the domain of your email as a big Net concern in
the UK.

Best of luck,
Ozzy

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Old 24-02-2007, 08:30 PM posted to rec.food.drink.tea
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On Feb 23, 3:49 am, "Hugh Kearnley"
wrote:
I've got a whole box of 'raw' almonds in the cupboard.
I'll have a go at that right now!
Thankyou Danica.
Hughie.


Cool! You can add honey to taste when you blend, it will make it
sweeter. Good luck!

 




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