Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL

On Feb 9, 5:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL

If you are looking for a good oolong tea. you have to choose oolong
from taiwan or Formosa , Oolong tea has become a religion or culture
among taiwan people. i use to order classic oolong from a tea store
online. http://www.jardinduthe.ca/eng/leafTea/oolong/
classOolong.htm , the favor is quite similar to the tiguanyin . even
better. and it is cheap. the service is fast .

best
corine

Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL

Well at least this package of Bai Hao tastes like the old Twining's.
And I can't fault it much on either flavor or aroma. This is only
the second year that I knew of the number of tea vendors on line.
For me it was either Upton or local oriental markets. My few books on
mostly replaced by this newsgroup and the various tea blogs. Most the
teas I have purchased have been never-buy-again disappointments, but
then the same tea style would probably vary in quality from vendor to vendor
as well as year to year. Still looking for nice earthy Oolong with a good
vegetal
aftertaste.

WEL

P.S. The Bao Hai was a 50 gm sample, now I am in for 1/4 lb.



"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then
something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That
is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white
whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that
was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and
other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be
my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL

On Feb 9, 5:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different.

The "Formosa Oolong" sold by Grace Tea Company has this peachy quality
that I, too, missed.

I served this tea, once, to a Taiwanese guy who was very into tea (and
a good teacher). His first response was that this tea wouldn't stand
up to a second infusion, though the first infusion was fine by him.

That's when I realized *how* it is possible to enjoy a tea that's so
*cheap* by people with high standards. This tea is probably
considered lower-grade in Taiwan because it can't be multiply
infused... whereas, for me, starting with the assumption that I will
only brew it once, it's nice (and cheap).

Well, that's my theory. Jump on it, guys

james-henry holland
hobart and william smith colleges
geneva, new york 14456 usa

=

"Thitherflit" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Feb 9, 5:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then
something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different.

The "Formosa Oolong" sold by Grace Tea Company has this peachy quality
that I, too, missed.

I served this tea, once, to a Taiwanese guy who was very into tea (and
a good teacher). His first response was that this tea wouldn't stand
up to a second infusion, though the first infusion was fine by him.

That's when I realized *how* it is possible to enjoy a tea that's so
*cheap* by people with high standards. This tea is probably
considered lower-grade in Taiwan because it can't be multiply
infused... whereas, for me, starting with the assumption that I will
only brew it once, it's nice (and cheap).

Well, that's my theory. Jump on it, guys

james-henry holland
hobart and william smith colleges
geneva, new york 14456 usa


James.

When I began drinking "good" I didn't know you were supposed to be able
make several infusions. I discarded the leaves after one, after all I was
brought
up on teabags of Swee-Touch-Nee tea. I still drink tea "american style": 6
gms.
per 10 oz. pot or cup, drink the whole thing. Now I can get at least three
or
four cups out of the leaves. I was given a complete Gong Fu set, but never
used
it. Too fond of the American Tea Ceremony I suppose.

Bill Lubarsky

On Feb 10, 6:24 am, "Space Cowboy" wrote:
Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:



Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim,
I just got some from "illu" (Dragon Teas? - China) on Ebay. It was not
terribly expensive and it is delightful. Floral, "spring-timey",
delicate and endured several infusions without diminishing flavour.
Right now, it is my fave....probably because I am sooo over winter and
it brings the promise of a change.
I was drinking a good deal of Da Hoa Pao this winter, which seemed
appropriate. Time to move on.
Shen

On Feb 11, 9:03 am, "Shen" wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:24 am, "Space Cowboy" wrote:





Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:

Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim,
I just got some from "illu" (Dragon Teas? - China) on Ebay. It was not
terribly expensive and it is delightful. Floral, "spring-timey",
delicate and endured several infusions without diminishing flavour.
Right now, it is my fave....probably because I am sooo over winter and
it brings the promise of a change.
I was drinking a good deal of Da Hoa Pao this winter, which seemed
appropriate. Time to move on.
Shen- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Jim,
I just checked - it was a "best Offer" for 9.00 for 100 grams. This is
the second time I ordered it from him. And, it's Idllu (not Illu -
Dragon Tea House). He also has some "white Cockscomb". I think it's
about $500.00 a pound or something. Yikes!

I will, on occasion, drink "cheap" teas and still enjoy them. Not
being able to rebrew it well is not a sin... I mean, if the cheapness
compensates for that fact, that is.

However, teas that can't stand up to a rebrew generally will mean they
are thin and lacking much body, and also be a bit bland and boring.
If you're only after one thing in the tea, and the cheap one does the
job... then that's good. As with all hobbies though... once you've
gotten the good stuff, it's hard to turn back.....

MarshalN
http://www.xanga.com/MarshalN

On Feb 11, 11:52 pm, "Thitherflit" wrote:
On Feb 9, 5:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:

Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different.

The "Formosa Oolong" sold by Grace Tea Company has this peachy quality
that I, too, missed.

I served this tea, once, to a Taiwanese guy who was very into tea (and
a good teacher). His first response was that this tea wouldn't stand
up to a second infusion, though the first infusion was fine by him.

That's when I realized *how* it is possible to enjoy a tea that's so
*cheap* by people with high standards. This tea is probably
considered lower-grade in Taiwan because it can't be multiply
infused... whereas, for me, starting with the assumption that I will
only brew it once, it's nice (and cheap).

Well, that's my theory. Jump on it, guys

james-henry holland
hobart and william smith colleges
geneva, new york 14456 usa

=

On Feb 11, 12:22 pm, "Shen" wrote:
On Feb 11, 9:03 am, "Shen" wrote:


Jim,
I just checked - it was a "best Offer" for 9.00 for 100 grams. This is
the second time I ordered it from him. And, it's Idllu (not Illu -
Dragon Tea House). He also has some "white Cockscomb". I think it's
about $500.00 a pound or something. Yikes!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Shen--

I don't find Idllu on ebay. The only "white Cockscomb" I find in ebay
is at Dragon Tea House, and it's $72 for 100 grams. Can you clarify
the name of the vendor you refer to?? By the way, Hou De also carries
a Bai Ji Guan; his is 2 oz at 37.50.

The old Twinings was the nuggets and not the munched leaf. My 4oz of
BaiHao wouldn't fit in a 113g tin. Twinings would have sold Bai Hao
as a tradename. The price of BaiHao was never in the penny/gram
range. It was mainly the Formosa Oolong I drank during the 70s,80s,
90s till it dried up and Al Gore invented the Internet. There were
other brands of FO over those decades. Any tea from Taiwan would meet
your definition if it isn't Bai Hao. If you can't wait and have
access to a Chinatown buy some Pouchong.

Jim

PS I'm sticking by my memories. Your Memories May Vary.

On Feb 10, 7:58 am, "lubarsky" wrote:
Well at least this package of Bai Hao tastes like the old Twining's.
And I can't fault it much on either flavor or aroma. This is only
the second year that I knew of the number of tea vendors on line.
For me it was either Upton or local oriental markets. My few books on
mostly replaced by this newsgroup and the various tea blogs. Most the
teas I have purchased have been never-buy-again disappointments, but
then the same tea style would probably vary in quality from vendor to vendor
as well as year to year. Still looking for nice earthy Oolong with a good
vegetal
aftertaste.

WEL

P.S. The Bao Hai was a 50 gm sample, now I am in for 1/4 lb.

"Space Cowboy" wrote in message

oups.com...



Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then
something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That
is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white
whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that
was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and
other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be
my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I order from Gordon all the time. He is in Shanghai and if the boat
is in port my SAL can arrive in two weeks. His non puer prices seem
high but it is one stop shopping for anything from China. If he
doesn't have it he can find it. He recently went to samplers at my
suggestion. He is very responsive in email and his English is on par
with Danny and MarshalN. Your Ba Hao taste sounds representative of a
tea from Taiwan in general. Mine from a respected vendor doesn't.
I'd like to hear from others how they think their taste compares to
say Pouchong or Gao Shan.

Jim

On Feb 11, 10:22 am, "Shen" wrote:
On Feb 10, 6:24 am, "Space Cowboy" wrote:

Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao.

I just got some from "illu" (Dragon Teas? - China) on Ebay. It was not
terribly expensive and it is delightful. Floral, "spring-timey",
delicate and endured several infusions without diminishing flavour.
Right now, it is my fave....probably because I am sooo over winter and
it brings the promise of a change.
I was drinking a good deal of Da Hoa Pao this winter, which seemed
appropriate. Time to move on.
Shen

I just checked - it was a "best Offer" for 9.00 for 100 grams. This is
the second time I ordered it from him. And, it's Idllu (not Illu -
Dragon Tea House). He also has some "white Cockscomb". I think it's
about $500.00 a pound or something. Yikes!

I have tried lots of Formosa Oolongs, very few have tasted like the old
Twining's.
I have two or three Pouchongs on hand now: all are very floral, not a hint
of the
apricot/peaches flavor. Besides the old Twining's leaf was brown after
steeping not
green like my Pouchongs.

WEL


"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
ups.com...
The old Twinings was the nuggets and not the munched leaf. My 4oz of
BaiHao wouldn't fit in a 113g tin. Twinings would have sold Bai Hao
as a tradename. The price of BaiHao was never in the penny/gram
range. It was mainly the Formosa Oolong I drank during the 70s,80s,
90s till it dried up and Al Gore invented the Internet. There were
other brands of FO over those decades. Any tea from Taiwan would meet
your definition if it isn't Bai Hao. If you can't wait and have
access to a Chinatown buy some Pouchong.

Jim

PS I'm sticking by my memories. Your Memories May Vary.

On Feb 10, 7:58 am, "lubarsky" wrote:
Well at least this package of Bai Hao tastes like the old Twining's.
And I can't fault it much on either flavor or aroma. This is only
the second year that I knew of the number of tea vendors on line.
For me it was either Upton or local oriental markets. My few books on
mostly replaced by this newsgroup and the various tea blogs. Most the
teas I have purchased have been never-buy-again disappointments, but
then the same tea style would probably vary in quality from vendor to
vendor
as well as year to year. Still looking for nice earthy Oolong with a good
vegetal
aftertaste.

WEL

P.S. The Bao Hai was a 50 gm sample, now I am in for 1/4 lb.

"Space Cowboy" wrote in message

oups.com...



Twinings Formosa Oolong was not Bai Hao. I think it was closer to
High Mountain or Gao Shan. The product dried up in the 90's. I know
tea memories are more misleading than not. While I'm here I got some
Bai Hao last year and it was the most disappointing tea I've ever
tasted given the fanfare. The taste was lackluster and no floral
notes I associate with Taiwan. I think it would be a good tea for a
queen from England with no taste in tea.

Jim

On Feb 9, 3:12 pm, "lubarsky" wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then
something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me
my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea.
That
is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference.
Wha'
happened?
At least I know that my taste buds and flavor-memory of WW ("white
whale")
Oolong are pretty much ok.
I had begun accumulated a bunch of Oolongs about that time also mostly
TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that
was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and
other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may
be
my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from
various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Time to call me Ahab?

WEL- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Feb 11, 11:06 am, "Salsero" wrote:
On Feb 11, 12:22 pm, "Shen" wrote:

On Feb 11, 9:03 am, "Shen" wrote:

Jim,
I just checked - it was a "best Offer" for 9.00 for 100 grams. This is
the second time I ordered it from him. And, it's Idllu (not Illu -
Dragon Tea House). He also has some "white Cockscomb". I think it's
about $500.00 a pound or something. Yikes!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Shen--

I don't find Idllu on ebay. The only "white Cockscomb" I find in ebay
is at Dragon Tea House, and it's $72 for 100 grams. Can you clarify
the name of the vendor you refer to?? By the way, Hou De also carries
a Bai Ji Guan; his is 2 oz at 37.50.

Jim, et al
This is the i.d. number - 280072643695 - this is Dragon Tea House.
Sometimes, it's difficult to find auction items/store items when you
do an Ebay search. This, however, is the tea I bought and I really
like. It was a "best offer" of $9.00 for 100 grams.It is quite
delicious. I know this is all very subjective.
Shen

lubarsky wrote:
Many years back my favorite tea was Twinings "Formosa Oolong".
It had that ripe peach/apricot flavor and a wonderful aroma. Then something
changed, the flavor was gone or at least changed to something very
different. This
was probably about the same time my Chinese History professor gave me my
"white whale"
oolong sending me on a now thirty-year quest.

Formosa oolong was basically any oolong that is from Formosa. If you
liked the Twinings, you might try the lowest grade of Tung Ting oolong
from Ten Ren, which is very similar.

Right now I am drinking a cup of Bai Hao Oolong from Imperial Tea. That is
the old "Formosa Oolong" flavor at an astronomical price difference. Wha'
happened?

It's a better example of the same sort of tea. You can get a much cheaper
Formosa oolong for daily drinking if you'd like. In fact, you can probably
call Roy Fong and tell him you love the Bai Hao Oolong but you'd like a
cheaper tea in the same family for daily drinking and he'd probably come up
with a good one.

TGY's. I remember one tin canister of a cheap TGY "Tea Set Brand" that was
quite
good. Now I have a hard time distinguishing between the new TGY's and other
Oolongs:they are beginning to all blur into each other. Now this may be my
tendency
to choose lightly oxidized Oolongs, but "Twelve Trees" is nearly
indistinguishable
from "Crooked Horse" or other green little fists that come from various
dealers. Again wha'
happened?

Something in the nineties happened to TGY. It became extremely popular,
and the demand exceeded the supply. Now all the fashionable people who
were drinking TGY are now drinking pu ehr instead, so hopefylly the TGY
prices will come back down again.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."