越沉越香 - ye cheng, ye xiang i.e. Like Red Wine, Pu-erh gets
Better with Age
人工�酵 – fermentation process
晒� – sun dried
烘� – wok/heat dried
å�¤æ*‘茶 – ancient tree tea
野生茶 – wild tree tea
茶山 – tea mountain
æµ·æ‹” - altitude
乔木 – tea from tall tree
�木 – tea from bushes
饼茶 – cake shaped tea
ç*–茶 – brick shaped tea
沱茶 – bird’s nest shaped tea

http://teaarts.blogspot.com/
--icetea

i found the words here
http://community.livejournal.com/puerh_tea/42635.html

I'll add some additional terms for sake of future reference:

æ–¹ square
瓜 melon
è*¡ calabash
ç‚’ roast
烘 baked
� old
�髦 raw leaves
渥 pile

I add my term for 'pile' but if something better let me know.

Jim

icetea wrote:
越沉越香 - ye cheng, ye xiang i.e. Like Red Wine, Pu-erh gets
Better with Age
人工�酵 – fermentation process
晒� – sun dried
烘� – wok/heat dried
å�¤æ*‘茶 – ancient tree tea
野生茶 – wild tree tea
茶山 – tea mountain
æµ·æ‹” - altitude
乔木 – tea from tall tree
�木 – tea from bushes
饼茶 – cake shaped tea
ç*–茶 – brick shaped tea
沱茶 – bird’s nest shaped tea

http://teaarts.blogspot.com/
--icetea

i found the words here
http://community.livejournal.com/puerh_tea/42635.html

icetea wrote:
越沉越香 - ye cheng, ye xiang

Note the correct pinyin - yue chen, yue xiang. By the way, I think the
correct characters are actually 越陈越香, which is pronounced
exactly the same way. The characters you used mean "the deeper, the
more fragrant", but 陈 means 'old' which makes more sense to me. A
simple translation of this phrase is "gets better with age."

Otherwise, good translations! For certain terms (tuocha, zhuancha,
bingcha) the convention among anglophone tea fans certainly seems to be
to just use the Chinese term.

Okay smarty-pants how about:

ä×¶Ñ w¨° du¨© - fermentation pile

Jim

Space Cowboy wrote:
....I delete me...
ä× pile

I add my term for 'pile' but if something better let me know.

Jim

It's smooth the way you add the tone marks. I never do that because a)
I don't know how and b) I don't know the tone of anything anyway.

Space Cowboy wrote:
Okay smarty-pants how about:

渥å*† wò duÄ« - fermentation pile

Jim

Space Cowboy wrote:
...I delete me...
渥 pile

I add my term for 'pile' but if something better let me know.

Jim

I was just admiring those tones, too. Spill the beans, buster!

Permissable PinYin tonal characters:
http://i6.tinypic.com/2i8w6ld.jpg

Typical mapping using Chinese character sets:
¨¡¨¢¨£¨¤ ¨¥¨¦¨§¨¨ ¨©¨ª¨«¨¬ ¨*¨®¨¯¨° ¨±¨²¨³¨´ ¨µ¨¶¨·¨¸

What you see is what you get.

Jim

HobbesOxon wrote:
I was just admiring those tones, too. Spill the beans, buster!

AGE/AGED（陳年��熟）
yes alex 陳 is the right word i cut and pasted this original post from
someone else,

cowboy, about the pile, (heheheh sounds funny) not your translation,
but me saying "about the pile"

i just wanted to add that
後發酵 post fermentation
piling is the process of post fermentation.
渥 pile === 渥å*† piling (this is done after 殺é�’ fixation (halt
fermentation)) and the result will be black-leaf tea, puerh


è*¡ calabash ====??? is this a bug
炒 roast ===is stir-fry like stir fried rice. 焙� roasting
烘 baked === 烘乾 hot air drying
� old ==for selling purposes aged tea sounds better
�髦 raw leaves ==== i understand that this term "raw" and cooked is
used often but again produce wise, i like the term "green" and the
opposite would be ripe


-icetea

I guess my real question is, "How does one make that character come out
of a keyboard?"

Is it ALT+XYZ?


Thanks in advance,

Hobbes

Speaking of Qing. My characters for roast and baked come from Chaoqing
and Hongqing respectively. Likewise your term sundried comes from
Shaiqing. There is also the character for steam Õô which comes from
Zhenqing. Calabash is the puer that looks likes poop plop piles.

Jim

icetea wrote:
AGE/AGED£¨ê�Ä꣯³ÉÊ죩
yes alex ê� is the right word i cut and pasted this original post from
someone else,

cowboy, about the pile, (heheheh sounds funny) not your translation,
but me saying "about the pile"

i just wanted to add that
áá°l½Í post fermentation
piling is the process of post fermentation.
ä× pile === ä×¶Ñ piling (this is done after š¢Çà fixation (halt
fermentation)) and the result will be black-leaf tea, puerh


ó» calabash ====??? is this a bug
³´ roast ===is stir-fry like stir fried rice. ±º»ð roasting
ºæ baked === ºæǬ hot air drying
ÀÏ old ==for selling purposes aged tea sounds better
Çà÷Ö raw leaves ==== i understand that this term "raw" and cooked is
used often but again produce wise, i like the term "green" and the
opposite would be ripe


-icetea

These are double byte characters. I think you need a Chinese IME or an
Asian OS for a key sequence. I copy and paste from a double byte file
as I need them. There are web sites where you input the tonal number
and it will generate the tonal character which is good for copy and
paste. Generating the characters with HTML is straight forward.

Jim

HobbesOxon wrote:
I guess my real question is, "How does one make that character come out
of a keyboard?"

Is it ALT+XYZ?


Thanks in advance,

Hobbes

icetea:

烘� – wok/heat dried
This should be machine roast
wok dried is 炒�

人工�酵 – fermentation process
This is no specific English technical name for this process, to what I
know, there are other terms for this:
Speed Fermentation
Controlled Fermentation, etc

AGE/AGED（陳年��熟）
陳年is also Aged, as an adjective to describe inanimate objects, such
as a cup, or tea.
�熟is Matured, for use mostly on living objects.

jim:

è*¡ calabash
Where did you come across this word? It is hardly used on pu'er. è*¡
Li is a cello-shaped gourd, it would be an unusual shape for pu'er.

�髦 raw leaves
Means nothing. I think you mean �毛 - which is more of an adjective.
�毛茶 has meaning, it is the half-processed product, but not raw
leaves...鮮葉is raw leaves...

渥 pile
Wrong character. 渥has 2 meanings: a) thick. heavy; b)moist. The
chinese character for Pile is å*†; together it means a thick moist
pile.


Danny

Danny to the rescue. I like your QingMao better than my QingMao. I
don't know where I got mine. I corrected myself earlier with the w¨°
du¨© post. Here is a picture of a calabash from the Menghai factory:

http://i6.tinypic.com/2r6herr.jpg

xi¨¨xi¨¨,
Jim

PS Danny got so tired of correcting me in email he learned how to post
Chinese characters on Usenet ;-).

wrote:
jim:

ó» calabash
Where did you come across this word? It is hardly used on pu'er. ó»
Li is a cello-shaped gourd, it would be an unusual shape for pu'er.

Çà÷Ö raw leaves
Means nothing. I think you mean Çàë - which is more of an adjective.
Çàë²è has meaning, it is the half-processed product, but not raw
leaves...õrÈ~is raw leaves...

ä× pile
Wrong character. ä×has 2 meanings: a) thick. heavy; b)moist. The
chinese character for Pile is ¶Ñ; together it means a thick moist
pile.


Danny

Thanks for the link, that is an awesome picture!

:")

Danny

How were these, Cowboy? Looks like one is shu and one is sheng, right?
Or you decided to wait for 10-15 years before you destroy them?

Sasha.

"Space Cowboy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Danny to the rescue. I like your QingMao better than my QingMao. I
don't know where I got mine. I corrected myself earlier with the w¨°
du¨© post. Here is a picture of a calabash from the Menghai factory:

http://i6.tinypic.com/2r6herr.jpg

xi¨¨xi¨¨,
Jim

PS Danny got so tired of correcting me in email he learned how to post
Chinese characters on Usenet ;-).

wrote:
jim:

ó» calabash
Where did you come across this word? It is hardly used on pu'er. ó»
Li is a cello-shaped gourd, it would be an unusual shape for pu'er.

Çà÷Ö raw leaves
Means nothing. I think you mean Çàë - which is more of an adjective.
Çàë²è has meaning, it is the half-processed product, but not raw
leaves...õrÈ~is raw leaves...

ä× pile
Wrong character. ä×has 2 meanings: a) thick. heavy; b)moist. The
chinese character for Pile is ¶Ñ; together it means a thick moist
pile.


Danny