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Bon Gusto,

Walter Rhee

Interesting - but it says it's by Susan Morse - ?

So how does that farmed blue fin tuna compare in quality?

wrote on 9 Sep 2005 14:18:36 -0700:

z Interesting - but it says it's by Susan Morse - ?

z So how does that farmed blue fin tuna compare in quality?

I wonder how it is possible to farm a large vigorous fish like a
tuna and, even if you can, how would its quality be?

James Silverton.

"James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net wrote in message
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wrote on 9 Sep 2005 14:18:36 -0700:

z Interesting - but it says it's by Susan Morse - ?

z So how does that farmed blue fin tuna compare in quality?

I wonder how it is possible to farm a large vigorous fish like a
tuna and, even if you can, how would its quality be?

The farmed bluefin tuna raised off west coast of Mexico are smaller fish.
Quality is fine but not much color (fat). I have seen them come in up to
140 lbs. The farmed bluefin coming out of the Mediterranean can be much
larger . . . 300-400 lbs. and will have nice color.

D. wrote on Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:21:41 -0700:


DL "James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net wrote
DL in message ...
?? wrote on 9 Sep 2005 14:18:36 -0700:
??
z Interesting - but it says it's by Susan Morse - ?
??
z So how does that farmed blue fin tuna compare in quality?
??
?? I wonder how it is possible to farm a large vigorous fish
?? like a tuna and, even if you can, how would its quality
?? be?

DL
The farmed bluefin tuna raised off west coast of Mexico are
smaller fish.
Quality is fine but not much color (fat). I have seen them come
in up to
140 lbs. The farmed bluefin coming out of the Mediterranean can
be much
larger . . . 300-400 lbs. and will have nice color.
DL

I guess I did what should have done earlier and searched on
Google for information on tuna farms. According to
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/innews/tunafarm.htm
the "farming" really amounts to fattening up tuna caught in the
wild and does not do much to help the world shortage of tuna.
Apparently about half the traded blue fin tuna comes from
Mediterranean tuna farms. I originally thought that the farms
might be raising the fish completely.

James Silverton.

"James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net wrote in message
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D. wrote on Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:21:41 -0700:


DL "James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net wrote
DL in message ...
?? wrote on 9 Sep 2005 14:18:36 -0700:
??
z Interesting - but it says it's by Susan Morse - ?
??
z So how does that farmed blue fin tuna compare in quality?
??
?? I wonder how it is possible to farm a large vigorous fish
?? like a tuna and, even if you can, how would its quality
?? be?

DL
The farmed bluefin tuna raised off west coast of Mexico are
smaller fish.
Quality is fine but not much color (fat). I have seen them come
in up to
140 lbs. The farmed bluefin coming out of the Mediterranean can
be much
larger . . . 300-400 lbs. and will have nice color.
DL

I guess I did what should have done earlier and searched on
Google for information on tuna farms. According to
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/innews/tunafarm.htm
the "farming" really amounts to fattening up tuna caught in the
wild and does not do much to help the world shortage of tuna.
Apparently about half the traded blue fin tuna comes from
Mediterranean tuna farms. I originally thought that the farms
might be raising the fish completely.

James Silverton.


This is in Walter's field, but yes, many "fish farms" as we know them
actually raise
fish originally caught in the wild. The rather long thread we just had about
eels ,
Unagi & Anago for example brought out the fact that unagi (freshwater eels)
are for the
most part farmed, while Anago (sal****er eels) are caught wild.
However, Unagi while farmed are also originally caught in the wild and then
raised on the farm.
While unagi farms have been around for decades, it was only 2 years ago that
the first full
cultivation (from egg to adult) of Unagi has been achieved.
M

"...the "farming" really amounts to fattening up tuna caught in the
wild and does not do much to help the world shortage of tuna. "


I was just thinking about that and thinking that somebody must be
pulling my leg. How can you raise tuna on a farm? But, OK, that
makes more sense then - catching the fish and trying to fatten them up.




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James Silverton wrote:
I guess I did what should have done earlier and searched on Google for
information on tuna farms. According to
http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/innews/tunafarm.htm
the "farming" really amounts to fattening up tuna caught in the wild and
does not do much to help the world shortage of tuna. Apparently about
half the traded blue fin tuna comes from Mediterranean tuna farms. I
originally thought that the farms might be raising the fish completely.

I think it does help the world shortage. You can take one fish and
fatten it up, or take 5 smaller fish and eat them up. I don't know the
ratio, but it would seem that farm-fattening would help some be reducing
the number fished to supply the same amount of meat.

--
Dan

Dan wrote on Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:51:36 -0400:

DL James Silverton wrote:
?? I guess I did what should have done earlier and searched
?? on Google for information on tuna farms. According to
?? http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/innews/tunafarm.htm the
"farming" really amounts to fattening up tuna caught
?? in the wild and does not do much to help the world
?? shortage of tuna. Apparently about half the traded blue
?? fin tuna comes from Mediterranean tuna farms. I
?? originally thought that the farms might be raising the
?? fish completely.

DL I think it does help the world shortage. You can take one
DL fish and fatten it up, or take 5 smaller fish and eat them
DL up. I don't know the ratio, but it would seem that
DL farm-fattening would help some be reducing the number
DL fished to supply the same amount of meat.

Regretfully Dan, I can't see it making much difference but it's
not something I'm going to argue about further without
researching the actual numbers. I do worry about the potential
problems of this type of "fish farming" like those apparent in
farmed salmon: less taste, no color (is farmed tuna dyed?),
diseases etc.

James Silverton.

"James Silverton" not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.net wrote in message
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Dan wrote on Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:51:36 -0400:
DL I think it does help the world shortage. You can take one
DL fish and fatten it up, or take 5 smaller fish and eat them
DL up. I don't know the ratio, but it would seem that
DL farm-fattening would help some be reducing the number
DL fished to supply the same amount of meat.

Regretfully Dan, I can't see it making much difference but it's
not something I'm going to argue about further without
researching the actual numbers. I do worry about the potential
problems of this type of "fish farming" like those apparent in
farmed salmon: less taste, no color (is farmed tuna dyed?),
diseases etc.

We have farmed salmon coming in here (U.S.) from Norway, Chile and Canada.
Highly regulated by the FDA. "Potential problems" have been addressed by
each country's regulatory agencies. Farmed salmon competes very nicely with
wild salmon. Some of our customers (Japanese, American, whatever) insist on
one over the other. Both are available almost year round.

Diseases? We have an FDA person in our plant keeping a close eye on
operations and I have never heard of one instance of farmed salmon being
rejected because of disease. We're talking about millions of pounds of
product every month. I rarely hear of farmed salmon being rejected for any
reason while wild salmon is routinely rejected for quality issues.
Anecdotal for sure but we're talking about a significant sample size.

Now, everybody go back to their salmon . . . wild or farmed. Enjoy and
don't snipe at your neighbor because his choice is different than yours.

"D. Lutjen" wrote:
[ . . . ]
Now, everybody go back to their salmon . . . wild or farmed. Enjoy and
don't snipe at your neighbor because his choice is different than yours.

I thought the snipe was a bird? Although, admittedly, they do eat fish. ;-)

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"D. Lutjen" wrote:
[ . . . ]
Now, everybody go back to their salmon . . . wild or farmed. Enjoy and
don't snipe at your neighbor because his choice is different than yours.

I thought the snipe was a bird? Although, admittedly, they do eat fish.
;-)

"Here, snipe . . . here, snipe." And they will run right into your gunny
sack.

"D. Lutjen" wrote:
wrote in message
"D. Lutjen" wrote:
[ . . . ]
Now, everybody go back to their salmon . . . wild or farmed. Enjoy
and don't snipe at your neighbor because his choice is different than
yours.

I thought the snipe was a bird? Although, admittedly, they do eat fish.
;-)
"Here, snipe . . . here, snipe." And they will run right into your gunny
sack.

LMAO Are ya wearin' yer 'Charlie Tuna' costume when ya do that? ;-D

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