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My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? Sandy |
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Sandy wrote:
My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake). Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted. -- Dan |
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My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night.
We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake). Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted. There are different types of food poisoning. Some poisons are poisons (fugu: tetrodotoxin, FAST!). Some are allergens and can cause anaphylactic shock (FAST). A lot of people have allergies to shellfish, for example. Many types of food poisoning are due to infectious agents and symptoms are slower to appear. Bacterial infections: salmonella, coliform, staph, E. coli, etc. Other than the really FAST poisons (above), symptoms such as yours from other poisons / allegens can appear in as little as one hour - sometimes. Maybe three hours is more common but an hour isn't impossible. While I do think you and your husband should retrace your steps, er, meals, it is possible that the problem was caused by something in your sushi meal; not necessarily the sushi, but something consumed at that restaurant. Do both of you have any food allergies? E.g., bisulfite in wine or on salads causes respiratory problems in sensitive people. It's an example of something you might not have thought about. Maybe there was another additive or preservative that caused your D problem? -- Sent by xanadoof from yahoo part of com This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header. Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com |
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Sushi wrote:
My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake). Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted. There are different types of food poisoning. Some poisons are poisons (fugu: tetrodotoxin, FAST!). Some are allergens and can cause anaphylactic shock (FAST). A lot of people have allergies to shellfish, for example. True, but if it were fugo poisoning, I don't think we'd be responding to this person. Other than the really FAST poisons (above), symptoms such as yours from other poisons / allegens can appear in as little as one hour - sometimes. Maybe three hours is more common but an hour isn't impossible. The fastest sympton I've had was about 3 hours. While I do think you and your husband should retrace your steps, er, meals, it is possible that the problem was caused by something in your sushi meal; not necessarily the sushi, but something consumed at that restaurant. Do both of you have any food allergies? E.g., bisulfite in wine or on salads causes respiratory problems in sensitive people. It's an example of something you might not have thought about. Maybe there was another additive or preservative that caused your D problem? My father told me about an asthma attack he had due to sulfites used to preserve lettuce. But that was an instant reaction, not an hour or three. Most people I've talked with who have food allergies report symptoms very quickly after exposure. I just thought about something. Did they drink hot tea and miso soup at the beginning of the meal? -- Dan |
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"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
... The fastest sympton I've had was about 3 hours. Pepperoni pizza and a pitcher of cold beer will get you down to one hour or less. Once upon a time, we were so hungry, we ate some hamachi sushi that looked a bit long in the tooth. It was. Once we got home (45 minutes later), it was a made dash (fighting off the spouse) to the nearest biffy. |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:28:26 GMT, Sandy
wrote: My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? Sandy Probably wasn't from the sushi. In addition to the suggestions to retrace your other culinary steps for the weekend, consider that some people can be sensitive to overly fatty foods - if the salad had a lot of mayo or oil, that could have triggered it. Also, some people can be sensitive to having a hot or warm soup or beverage with their meal. It may "push" things along. Especially if you had something with fiber in it earlier in the day. Scoop |
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Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri, which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried. My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for awhile. Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner for us... Thanks, Sandy Dan Logcher wrote: Sushi wrote: I just thought about something. Did they drink hot tea and miso soup at the beginning of the meal? |
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"Sandy" wrote in message news:xUSwb.232238$ao4.832639@attbi_s51... Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri, which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried. My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for awhile. Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner for us... Thanks, Sandy Because doctors have found that vegetables can carry e. coli. If produce is imported from countries where the sanitation and fertilizers are different from our own, you can end up getting sick from ingesting fecal matter. In other words, it might have been the fish, the veggies, or pretty much anything you ate that night, if a server or food prep person didn't wash up properly or if the fish was kept too warm or if the the table wasn't wiped down well or if the vegetables came from a section of Latin America or the Caribbean where human and animal dung are used as fertilizer. I wish I could be more comforting. |
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Sandy wrote:
Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri, which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried. My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for awhile. Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner for us... I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the waitress had filled my mug. Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion. -- Dan |
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Dan Logcher wrote in message ...
Sandy wrote: Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri, which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried. My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for awhile. Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner for us... I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the waitress had filled my mug. Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion. I've also become ill after drinking several cups of green tea. I don't drink much caffeine and blamed it on having a lot of caffeine in a short period of time. A cup doesn't bother me, but several did. (And this was at home, when I was NOT eating, and the same brand from the same package that didn't make me sick after 1 did after 3.) |
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Jeffrey Barker wrote:
Dan Logcher wrote in message ... Sandy wrote: Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri, which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried. My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for awhile. Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner for us... I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the waitress had filled my mug. Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion. I've also become ill after drinking several cups of green tea. I don't drink much caffeine and blamed it on having a lot of caffeine in a short period of time. A cup doesn't bother me, but several did. (And this was at home, when I was NOT eating, and the same brand from the same package that didn't make me sick after 1 did after 3.) I don't think it's the caffeine that does that. I am a regular coffee drinker, about 3 cups a day all in the morning. My green tea experience was at lunch, so if it were caffeine, I'd be having the shakes or something. I think it's the temperature of the tea. -- Dan |
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Ken Meyer wrote:
The symptoms you describe are identicle to what happens to me after I ll the restaurant "NO MSG" or "Eeeah anji no moto" and they ignore me. Sime elapsed time too. Are you MSG sensitive? No, not really. It makes me a little tired after eating a lot, but no other ill effects. I never have digestive issues are eating Dim Sum, just a little nap. I was thinking it had to do with the miso paste or just the two hot liquids in general. I didn't have any cramping like I had when I got salmonella from a super market deli. -- Dan |
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"Sandy" wrote in message news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04... My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in your water glass. PO the waitress? |
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Been gone for around 6 months now, good to see things haven't changed.
Why is it impossible to simply believe the poster? So many doubt the story or tell them they must not have seen what they saw. As usual this will keep people coming back for more (abuse). I think not. Joe Ex Sushi Zone Regular Arlington, TX On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:16:11 GMT, "Michael" wrote: "Sandy" wrote in message news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04... My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a little nausea today, but nothing Sunday. This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned? from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in your water glass. PO the waitress? |