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Old 02-12-2003, 01:56 AM
Dan Logcher
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Michael wrote:

"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...

My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?



Visine will do that?

--
Dan

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Old 02-12-2003, 01:59 AM
Dan Logcher
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Joe wrote:

Been gone for around 6 months now, good to see things haven't changed.
Why is it impossible to simply believe the poster? So many doubt the
story or tell them they must not have seen what they saw. As usual
this will keep people coming back for more (abuse). I think not.



Joe, it could be a million things that would have caused their illness.
No said they weren't ill, just that it could be something other than
sushi. Hey, a guy got shot out front of a sushi bar, think the sushi
killed him? Well it might have if he was running from the bill.

--
Dan

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Old 02-12-2003, 05:41 AM
Charles Demas
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In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:
Michael wrote:

"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...

My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?



Visine will do that?


You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
find.


Chuck Demas

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Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
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Old 02-12-2003, 01:45 PM
Dan Logcher
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Charles Demas wrote:

In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:

Michael wrote:


"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...


My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?


Visine will do that?


You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
find.


I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.

--
Dan

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Old 02-12-2003, 02:31 PM
Charles Demas
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In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:
Charles Demas wrote:

In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:

Michael wrote:


"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...


My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?


Visine will do that?


You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
find.


I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.


How did you verify the lengthen life part?

I found it made me irresistable to women, though I must admit, it was
only a small improvement. :-)


Chuck Demas

--
Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
| \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd
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Old 02-12-2003, 03:27 PM
Dan Logcher
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Charles Demas wrote:

In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:

Charles Demas wrote:


In article ,
Dan Logcher wrote:


Michael wrote:



"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...



My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?



from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in

your water glass. PO the waitress?


Visine will do that?


You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
find.

I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.


How did you verify the lengthen life part?



I could feel the longevity within me.


I found it made me irresistable to women, though I must admit, it was
only a small improvement. :-)


How did you verify the irresistability? And was it only to women?

--
Dan

  #22 (permalink)  
Old 02-12-2003, 04:32 PM
Michael
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"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...
Michael wrote:

"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...

My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine

in
your water glass. PO the waitress?



Visine will do that?


Oh yea, big time. For other interesting items that might find their way
into your food when you PO the wait staff go to

www.stainedapron.com




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Old 02-12-2003, 04:42 PM
Dan Logcher
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Michael wrote:

"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...

Michael wrote:


"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...


My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine

in

your water glass. PO the waitress?


Visine will do that?


Oh yea, big time. For other interesting items that might find their way
into your food when you PO the wait staff go to

www.stainedapron.com


Cripes!!! This is scarey stuff! This is why it could have been a million
things that could have caused their illness.

--
Dan

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Old 02-12-2003, 04:54 PM
Hansen
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Dan Logcher wrote in message ...
Michael wrote:

"Sandy" wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...

My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?


from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?



Visine will do that?



Might want to check out http://www.snopes.com/toxins/visine.asp on
that one. It may cause diarrhea, but it is apparently more
likely to cause illness or death (labored breathing, depressed nervous
system, and more nasty side effects. The diarrhea will be the least
of your
worries.)

Ciao,
Hansen
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Old 02-12-2003, 08:28 PM
Michael
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"Hansen" wrote in message
om...
Dan Logcher wrote in message

...
Michael wrote:
from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine

in
your water glass. PO the waitress?



Visine will do that?



Might want to check out http://www.snopes.com/toxins/visine.asp on
that one. It may cause diarrhea, but it is apparently more
likely to cause illness or death (labored breathing, depressed nervous
system, and more nasty side effects. The diarrhea will be the least
of your
worries.)


I've never done it but have seen it done to plenty of poor tipping or rude
customers when I worked as a waiter and bartender. After reading your post
I guess we should be glad no one died.


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Old 08-01-2004, 01:30 PM
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Default Suddenly Ill / Hot Tea & Miso Soup

I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.

is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?

I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to make
it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...

good luck tracking it.


"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...
Ken Meyer wrote:

The symptoms you describe are identicle to what happens to me after I
ll the restaurant "NO MSG" or "Eeeah anji no moto" and they ignore me.
Sime elapsed time too. Are you MSG sensitive?


No, not really. It makes me a little tired after eating a lot,
but no other ill effects. I never have digestive issues are
eating Dim Sum, just a little nap.

I was thinking it had to do with the miso paste or just the two
hot liquids in general. I didn't have any cramping like I had
when I got salmonella from a super market deli.

--
Dan



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Old 08-01-2004, 01:34 PM
Dan Logcher
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Christopher wrote:

I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.



Right, fast and not painful.. that's what happened to me way back when.


is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?



No, miso soup is dashi and miso paste.


I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to make
it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...


I use fish sauce often enough to say that's not "my" problem, but you
might have some alergy to it. Someone suggested it might be that
drinking enough hot liquids will do it. But I don't know, I drink hot
coffee and other soups on a regular basis without a problem.

--
Dan

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Old 08-01-2004, 03:42 PM
Christopher
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"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...
Christopher wrote:

I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it

on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.



Right, fast and not painful.. that's what happened to me way back when.


is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?



No, miso soup is dashi and miso paste.


I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to

make
it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...


I use fish sauce often enough to say that's not "my" problem, but you
might have some alergy to it. Someone suggested it might be that
drinking enough hot liquids will do it. But I don't know, I drink hot
coffee and other soups on a regular basis without a problem.


yeah me too... just this soup is the thing... and it seems like only with
the fish sauce. but maybe there's something common that's in the fish sauce
and something they ate. Then again maybe it's nothing related


--
Dan



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Old 08-01-2004, 03:48 PM
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"Christopher" wrote in message
...
I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it

on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.

is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?


Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
and consists of anchovies and salt.
Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
anything in
common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
bonito),
Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?



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Old 08-01-2004, 04:00 PM
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Default Suddenly Ill / Hot Tea & Miso Soup

to be honest, I have no idea. Just thinking out loud.


"Musashi" wrote in message
. com...

"Christopher" wrote in message
...
I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it

on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.

is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?


Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
and consists of anchovies and salt.
Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
anything in
common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
bonito),
Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?





 




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