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what is it with the Japanese attitude to this kind of food?!?



 
 
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Old 29-10-2003, 12:13 PM
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shocking news report http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html

don't they have enough of other things to eat, whilst two thirds of this
earth's population are in food shortage crisis?


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Old 29-10-2003, 01:00 PM
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"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper? or because there is *GASP*
blood? Usually when an animal is butchered, there is blood. The fact that
it is done in a cove (very small area), makes it appear to be a SEA of
BLOOD (how very spectacular).

I wonder what it tastes like.
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Old 29-10-2003, 02:16 PM
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"JohnW" wrote in message
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"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper?


Something that is NOT shocking: once again, the U.S. is sticking its nose in
where it is not invited.


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Old 29-10-2003, 04:58 PM
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"JohnW" wrote in message
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"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper? or because there is *GASP*
blood? Usually when an animal is butchered, there is blood. The fact

that
it is done in a cove (very small area), makes it appear to be a SEA of
BLOOD (how very spectacular).

I wonder what it tastes like.


The subject line is offensive to Japanese people.
One could just as easily say "what it is with the American attitude to this
kind of food?
http://www.ca4a.org/info/slaughterhouse/

In anycase, animals are slaughtered all over the world.
Eating animals crosses all cultural boundaries.
The original poster is a mental retard.






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Old 29-10-2003, 05:19 PM
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In article , shadow self
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Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper?


Something that is NOT shocking: once again, the U.S. is sticking its nose in
where it is not invited.


Environmental, humanitarian and vegetarian groups are not affiliated
with any one nation.

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Old 29-10-2003, 05:20 PM
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"Musashi" wrote in message
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"JohnW" wrote in message
...
"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper? or because there is *GASP*
blood? Usually when an animal is butchered, there is blood. The fact

that
it is done in a cove (very small area), makes it appear to be a SEA of
BLOOD (how very spectacular).

I wonder what it tastes like.


The subject line is offensive to Japanese people.
One could just as easily say "what it is with the American attitude to

this
kind of food?
http://www.ca4a.org/info/slaughterhouse/

In anycase, animals are slaughtered all over the world.
Eating animals crosses all cultural boundaries.
The original poster is a mental retard.


While I think eating dolphin is pretty awful (I feel the same way about
eating dogs, horses, monkeys, cats, and other animals with higher reasoning
ability) I agree that the first poster's statement is offensive.
I live in the US. Lots of us here eat pig. However, many Americans don't-
there is no 'American' attitude towards eating pork. Even if there were- so
what? My personal feeling that eating certain foods is wrong does not mean
that people who eat certain foods are disgusting or evil. I don't think
Moslems are evil just because a bunch of them seem to want to have women
wear what looks to me like bedsheets, especially non-Muslims have some
pretty stupid, and in my mind barbaric, customs too.

Do I think killing dolphins is barbaric? Yes. I also think encouraging
women to get their chests cut open to put saline-filled bags inside is
barbaric, too. And forcing geese to eat until they nearly explode in order
to enlarge their livers? Wicked. The sickest thing, though, is keeping
millions of animals penned up so that they can be tortured by milking
machines or force-fed grain, just so we can have milk and chicken.

All animal slaughter could be construed as evil- and usually is by someone.








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Old 29-10-2003, 05:45 PM
shadow self
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"Gerry" wrote in message
d...
In article , shadow self
wrote:

Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper?


Something that is NOT shocking: once again, the U.S. is sticking its

nose in
where it is not invited.


Environmental, humanitarian and vegetarian groups are not affiliated
with any one nation.


You're right, I was out of line.


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Old 29-10-2003, 06:13 PM
Tea
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"shadow self" wrote in message
...

"Gerry" wrote in message
d...
In article , shadow self
wrote:

Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper?

Something that is NOT shocking: once again, the U.S. is sticking its

nose in
where it is not invited.


Environmental, humanitarian and vegetarian groups are not affiliated
with any one nation.


You're right, I was out of line.


also, just as the first poster was offensive towards Japanese, you were
offensive towards Americans. We are not all international busybodies. Nor
are we all naive about world politics or other cultures. If some of us
choose to protest the killing of animals whose brain power and intelligence
is not far from humans, we are not necessarily doing so because we are
Americans- quite frankly, most Americans don't give a damn what people eat
in Japan, and couldn't find Japan on a map if their lives depended on it.
What I find interesting is how Americans are always accused of putting our
noses in things- but the people who say this don't seem to be urging their
countries to pay back all the loans that America makes so their countries
won't have to associate with us. They also don't seem to be worked up when
US money props up their economies in times of need, and I haven't heard of a
country yet that has said, 'no thank you- but we don't want you money'. If
Western Europe alone finished paying off their Marshall Plan loans, not a
single American child would go to bed hungry, lack milk or clothing, or go
to a school without proper books for at least 20 years. Mistaken and
downright wrong-headed as we have often been (and I am no conservative by
any means), I wonder if all the US-haters would have liked the world that
would have come into being without the US entry into World War II, the
monies loaned by American taxpayers for the Marshall Plan that helped to
stave off the Nazis and other fascists rising again, or the American buying
power that has kept many European companies afloat while helping to turn
Japan into a major world player. I'm not proud of what we did in Vietnam,
our current attitude against Cuba, and our support of anti-Communist
dictators who have used our money to torture and maim their own people, but
I'm not ashamed that there are still enough Brits, French, Germans,
Spaniards, Italians and even Japanese left in the world to sneer how we are
always sticking our noses in other people's business while forgetting that
if we had ignored them or treated them the way the Russians would have liked
to have done, they'd still all be standing in line for toilet paper and
rotted potatoes. Instead, I am happy to say that they are alive, healthy,
and able to crack wise while never getting around to paying the money they
still owe, and they often have the nerve to ask for more.


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Old 29-10-2003, 07:03 PM
Jules Network Test
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I chose the words to the subject line very carefully, as it is the Japanese
who eat whales and dolphins not out of necessity (unlike Innuits), therefore
one could say that the subject matter raised questions about harvesting
depleting stock. It is beside the point to this alongside to what is reared
for eating and that which is wild and, if hunted to today's quotas, will
oneday be extinct.
It is also hypocritical for Mr/Mrs/Ms Musashi to label myself a 'mental
retard' when he/she feels I have labelled the Japanese in an unfair manner -
he/she must have as much regard towards the mentally challenged as for the
poor dolphins.
For the record, I have a lot of Japanese friends, both in and out of Japan,
and they don't share pro whaling camp.



"Musashi" wrote in message
. com...

"JohnW" wrote in message
...
"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper? or because there is *GASP*
blood? Usually when an animal is butchered, there is blood. The fact

that
it is done in a cove (very small area), makes it appear to be a SEA of
BLOOD (how very spectacular).

I wonder what it tastes like.


The subject line is offensive to Japanese people.
One could just as easily say "what it is with the American attitude to

this
kind of food?
http://www.ca4a.org/info/slaughterhouse/

In anycase, animals are slaughtered all over the world.
Eating animals crosses all cultural boundaries.
The original poster is a mental retard.








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Old 29-10-2003, 07:16 PM
Musashi
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"Tea" wrote in message
...

"Musashi" wrote in message
. com...

"JohnW" wrote in message
...
"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
@newsfep1-win.server.ntli.net:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html

Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper? or because there is

*GASP*
blood? Usually when an animal is butchered, there is blood. The fact

that
it is done in a cove (very small area), makes it appear to be a SEA of
BLOOD (how very spectacular).

I wonder what it tastes like.


The subject line is offensive to Japanese people.
One could just as easily say "what it is with the American attitude to

this
kind of food?
http://www.ca4a.org/info/slaughterhouse/

In anycase, animals are slaughtered all over the world.
Eating animals crosses all cultural boundaries.
The original poster is a mental retard.


While I think eating dolphin is pretty awful (I feel the same way about
eating dogs, horses, monkeys, cats, and other animals with higher

reasoning
ability) I agree that the first poster's statement is offensive.
I live in the US. Lots of us here eat pig. However, many Americans

don't-
there is no 'American' attitude towards eating pork. Even if there were-

so
what? My personal feeling that eating certain foods is wrong does not mean
that people who eat certain foods are disgusting or evil. I don't think
Moslems are evil just because a bunch of them seem to want to have women
wear what looks to me like bedsheets, especially non-Muslims have some
pretty stupid, and in my mind barbaric, customs too.

Do I think killing dolphins is barbaric? Yes. I also think encouraging
women to get their chests cut open to put saline-filled bags inside is
barbaric, too. And forcing geese to eat until they nearly explode in

order
to enlarge their livers? Wicked. The sickest thing, though, is keeping
millions of animals penned up so that they can be tortured by milking
machines or force-fed grain, just so we can have milk and chicken.

All animal slaughter could be construed as evil- and usually is by

someone.


Actually, what I failed to mention earlier is that porpoise/dophin is NOT a
KNOWN JAPANESE FOOD.
In other words, if you go walking into a Japanese restaurant and ask for
Flipper don't be surprised if you
get laughed at.
I have eaten whale in Japan, and there have been reports that some dishonest
merchants have been selling
porpoise/dolphin meat falsely labeled as "whale". It is also possible that
in some remote places it is in fact
eaten. The article mentioned porpoise being canned. Perhaps but I have never
seen any in cans or at fish markets
in Japan. I was of the belief that the real reason that some fishermen kill
porpoises was for the same reason that
American fishermen use to kill seals..that they competed for the fish.



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Old 29-10-2003, 07:21 PM
tai fu
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mmmm.... dolphin.... *drools*


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Old 29-10-2003, 07:27 PM
Musashi
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"Jules Network Test" wrote in message
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I chose the words to the subject line very carefully, as it is the

Japanese
who eat whales and dolphins not out of necessity (unlike Innuits),

therefore
one could say that the subject matter raised questions about harvesting
depleting stock. It is beside the point to this alongside to what is

reared
for eating and that which is wild and, if hunted to today's quotas, will
oneday be extinct.
It is also hypocritical for Mr/Mrs/Ms Musashi to label myself a 'mental
retard' when he/she feels I have labelled the Japanese in an unfair

manner -
he/she must have as much regard towards the mentally challenged as for the
poor dolphins.
For the record, I have a lot of Japanese friends, both in and out of

Japan,
and they don't share pro whaling camp.


Sorry but I find your last statement lacking in credibility.
You say you chose your words carefully???
"What is it with the Japanese" means "what is wrong with the Japanese."
Your subject line does NOT mean "what is the Japanese attitude".
If you considered these words carefully I suggest you go back to school for
a remedial English class.
Furthermore, if you indeed have alot of Japanese friends both in and out of
Japan then any
one of them would have told you that porpoises are not customarily
considered food in Japan,
that you will never find it in any fish market or restaurant.
Had you been talking about whale, that would have been a different matter.
The striped dolphins (not bottle nosed clever intelligent Flipper dolphins
of TV fame)
were being killed because of competetion for fish. The same reason that
American Fishermam use
to shoot seals because of competition for salmon. Additionally much of
Japans fish stocks are farmed
in ocean pens which are attacked by the porpoises. Perhaps a better approach
should be taken to
solve the problem, but you posting a misleading subject line does nothing to
accomplish that.




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Old 29-10-2003, 07:37 PM
Musashi
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"Tea" wrote in message
...

"shadow self" wrote in message
...

"Gerry" wrote in message
d...
In article , shadow self
wrote:

Why is it *shocking*? Because it is flipper?

Something that is NOT shocking: once again, the U.S. is sticking its

nose in
where it is not invited.

Environmental, humanitarian and vegetarian groups are not affiliated
with any one nation.


You're right, I was out of line.


also, just as the first poster was offensive towards Japanese, you were
offensive towards Americans. We are not all international busybodies.

Nor
are we all naive about world politics or other cultures. If some of us
choose to protest the killing of animals whose brain power and

intelligence
is not far from humans, we are not necessarily doing so because we are
Americans- quite frankly, most Americans don't give a damn what people eat
in Japan, and couldn't find Japan on a map if their lives depended on it.
What I find interesting is how Americans are always accused of putting our
noses in things- but the people who say this don't seem to be urging their
countries to pay back all the loans that America makes so their countries
won't have to associate with us. They also don't seem to be worked up

when
US money props up their economies in times of need, and I haven't heard of

a
country yet that has said, 'no thank you- but we don't want you money'. If
Western Europe alone finished paying off their Marshall Plan loans, not a
single American child would go to bed hungry, lack milk or clothing, or go
to a school without proper books for at least 20 years. Mistaken and
downright wrong-headed as we have often been (and I am no conservative by
any means), I wonder if all the US-haters would have liked the world that
would have come into being without the US entry into World War II, the
monies loaned by American taxpayers for the Marshall Plan that helped to
stave off the Nazis and other fascists rising again, or the American

buying
power that has kept many European companies afloat while helping to turn
Japan into a major world player. I'm not proud of what we did in Vietnam,
our current attitude against Cuba, and our support of anti-Communist
dictators who have used our money to torture and maim their own people,

but
I'm not ashamed that there are still enough Brits, French, Germans,
Spaniards, Italians and even Japanese left in the world to sneer how we

are
always sticking our noses in other people's business while forgetting that
if we had ignored them or treated them the way the Russians would have

liked
to have done, they'd still all be standing in line for toilet paper and
rotted potatoes. Instead, I am happy to say that they are alive, healthy,
and able to crack wise while never getting around to paying the money they
still owe, and they often have the nerve to ask for more.


No one country in the 20th century has given more to other countries, or as
paid as dear a price in blood to
eliminate fascism and militarism in other countries as the United States.
I think that that fact alone compensates for her mistakes and failures.



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Old 29-10-2003, 09:04 PM
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In article ,
JohnW wrote:
"Chef!" wrote in news9Onb.229$jl2.263965
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http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_833468.html


I wonder what it tastes like.


And: is it tuna safe?

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Old 29-10-2003, 11:19 PM
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"Tea" wrote in message
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You're right, I was out of line.


also, just as the first poster was offensive towards Japanese, you were
offensive towards Americans.


It looks like I already said I was out of line. Sorry if I did not make it
clear enough.

I say wrong thing. I say bad! Me say sorry.


 




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