I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver Island,
BC, and in order to try to stretch out my provisions, I'm planning to
supplement my protein intake by (sal****er-only) fishing --- salmon,
snapper,
rock-cod, geoduck, mussels. I love sushi and think preparing the catch this
way
would be good --- how much fresher can you get than minutes old? Rice is
compact
and easy to transport in large quantities.

My question is about parasites --- Health Canada has a lot of extremely
technical info about L2 vs L3 larvae, and their appearance at various larval
stages and simply say that
rock-cod and salmon are liable to infestation, but say nothing about
bivalves.

Our waters are cold year round, 8C --- I understand this is better than the
tropics (for parasites)?

Is there one species of fish that is less susceptible to Anisakiasis?
Snapper? Rock-cod? Salmon?
Geo-ducks are plentiful where I'm going --- are they liable to parasite
infestation?

Should I even be worried about Anisakiasis or other parasites?

Any info appreciated ..
Tom

tom wrote:
I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver Island,
BC, and in order to try to stretch out my provisions, I'm planning to
supplement my protein intake by (sal****er-only) fishing --- salmon,
snapper,
rock-cod, geoduck, mussels. I love sushi and think preparing the catch this
way
would be good --- how much fresher can you get than minutes old? Rice is
compact
and easy to transport in large quantities.

My question is about parasites --- Health Canada has a lot of extremely
technical info about L2 vs L3 larvae, and their appearance at various larval
stages and simply say that
rock-cod and salmon are liable to infestation, but say nothing about
bivalves.

Our waters are cold year round, 8C --- I understand this is better than the
tropics (for parasites)?

Is there one species of fish that is less susceptible to Anisakiasis?
Snapper? Rock-cod? Salmon?
Geo-ducks are plentiful where I'm going --- are they liable to parasite
infestation?

Should I even be worried about Anisakiasis or other parasites?

I am not an expert, but from what I have gather from this newsgroup
Anisakasis parasite is an issue with Pacific salmon. I don't know about
bivalves, I wouldn't think they are vunerable to flatworm infestation.
I would not eat the salmon raw, or without deep freezing to weaken the
larvae.

--
Dan

"tom" wrote in message
news:nIAGj.125697$w94.72888@pd7urf2no...
I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver Island,
BC, and in order to try to stretch out my provisions, I'm planning to
supplement my protein intake by (sal****er-only) fishing --- salmon,
snapper,
rock-cod, geoduck, mussels. I love sushi and think preparing the catch
this
way
would be good --- how much fresher can you get than minutes old? Rice is
compact
and easy to transport in large quantities.

My question is about parasites --- Health Canada has a lot of extremely
technical info about L2 vs L3 larvae, and their appearance at various
larval
stages and simply say that
rock-cod and salmon are liable to infestation, but say nothing about
bivalves.

Our waters are cold year round, 8C --- I understand this is better than
the
tropics (for parasites)?

Is there one species of fish that is less susceptible to Anisakiasis?
Snapper? Rock-cod? Salmon?
Geo-ducks are plentiful where I'm going --- are they liable to parasite
infestation?

Should I even be worried about Anisakiasis or other parasites?

Any info appreciated ..
Tom



I agree with Dan. The only fish I personally would be careful about eating
raw just
caught in your list would be wild Pacific Salmon. And Steelhead too.
I'm not familar with Rock Cod enough to comment. I do believe that
Greenlings (Ainame)
are eaten as sashimi. I don't think there are any Ling Cod in Japan so can't
say.
If you run into Halibut they can be had as sashimi, although you might get
your kayak towed
around a bit. With Geoducks I probably wouldn't worry about the foot, as
that's the only part
I'd eat raw.

Musashi

Hai! Those halibut are really something --- stories abound of guys
under-estimating their strength, hauling them into a small rowboat only to
have them smash the hull by slamming around and then they swim away, leaving
the fisherman in the water amidst the wreckage of what used to be a rowboat.
Yeah, they're solid muscle --- if I get one (big if) it'll a little guy.

Salmon gear is more complicated than simple bottom-fish jigging gear, so I
think if I catch anything, it will be snapper, rock cod, maybe halibut, or
bivalves because I won't have room for fancy gear.

I was just reading the Health Canada website and they have a blanket
recommendation to freeze everything. I obviously won't be able to do that.
OK, I will try to minimize my exposure to parasites by avoiding salmon, and
only using healthy-looking snapper/rock cod/geoduck-foot as sashimi, the
rest I will either bake wrapped in kelp, buried in sand under a fire on the
beach, or cooked the First nations way on spreader-sticks over a fire.

Last trip I ate a bunch of mussels, here's a pic:

http://picasaweb.google.com/tomfromv...62149196161634

Dan, just to be clear --- you're saying that it's only salmon you'd be
worried about?

I won't be able to freeze anything --- you think that parasites might not be
an issue as long as I avoid salmon?

tom wrote:
Dan, just to be clear --- you're saying that it's only salmon you'd be
worried about?

I won't be able to freeze anything --- you think that parasites might not be
an issue as long as I avoid salmon?

I'm not sure. I only know that Pacific salmon definately has parasite issues
and you should use caution. Other fish may also have the same issues, like the
cod. Cod around New England are filled with worms.. two years ago when I went
deep sea fishing I got several and they all had worms coiled up in the flesh.

http://bluefish.mit.edu/photos/fish/Worms%20002.avi

Using a fork, I pulled the coiled up worms out and dropped them in the sink.
After a few minutes they realized they were out and started moving around. Gross!
I did not eat the cod raw.

--
Dan

Wilson wrote:
sometime in the recent past tom posted this:

Hai! Those halibut are really something --- stories abound of guys
under-estimating their strength, hauling them into a small rowboat
only to have them smash the hull by slamming around and then they swim
away, leaving the fisherman in the water amidst the wreckage of what
used to be a rowboat. Yeah, they're solid muscle --- if I get one (big
if) it'll a little guy.

Salmon gear is more complicated than simple bottom-fish jigging gear,
so I think if I catch anything, it will be snapper, rock cod, maybe
halibut, or bivalves because I won't have room for fancy gear.

I was just reading the Health Canada website and they have a blanket
recommendation to freeze everything. I obviously won't be able to do
that. OK, I will try to minimize my exposure to parasites by avoiding
salmon, and only using healthy-looking snapper/rock cod/geoduck-foot
as sashimi, the rest I will either bake wrapped in kelp, buried in
sand under a fire on the beach, or cooked the First nations way on
spreader-sticks over a fire.

Last trip I ate a bunch of mussels, here's a pic:

http://picasaweb.google.com/tomfromv...62149196161634




Tom, what is all that floating in the water in pic # 120?

Looks like drift wood or kelp.. probably wood.

--
Dan

"I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver
Island..."

What a great place you are in for sea kayaking! That was one of my
sports too when I lived back east - mostly IK. I almost drowned 4
times in the space of 5 years so I moved to the desert. Sporting
feller that I am, tho, I give the sea another crack at me at least
once a year.

I wouldn't be too experimental and adventurous on what I ate on a sea
kayaking expedition, tho. You don't really want to get sick when you
have to paddle home (this from a guy who got food poisoning by eating
a ratty old salami on a camping trip 2 years ago) . You must be
familiar with Euell Gibbons' book, *Stalking the Blue-Eyed Scallop*.
He was writing about your part of the country. He died kind of young,
tho...

Using a fork, I pulled the coiled up worms out and dropped them in the sink.
After a few minutes they realized they were out and started moving around. Gross!
I did not eat the cod raw.

--
Dan




That sort of thing can make a guy seriously reconsider this whole
sushi business.

wrote:

Using a fork, I pulled the coiled up worms out and dropped them in the sink.
After a few minutes they realized they were out and started moving around. Gross!
I did not eat the cod raw.



That sort of thing can make a guy seriously reconsider this whole
sushi business.

Yeah but I wasn't going to eat the cod raw anyways.. They are notorius for worms
in these parts. Knowing this, I removed all the ones I could see and cooked the fish
thoroughly. I made chowdah out of most of it.

--
Dan

"Dan Logcher" wrote in message
...
tom wrote:
Dan, just to be clear --- you're saying that it's only salmon you'd be
worried about?

I won't be able to freeze anything --- you think that parasites might not
be an issue as long as I avoid salmon?

I'm not sure. I only know that Pacific salmon definately has parasite
issues
and you should use caution. Other fish may also have the same issues,
like the
cod. Cod around New England are filled with worms.. two years ago when I
went
deep sea fishing I got several and they all had worms coiled up in the
flesh.

http://bluefish.mit.edu/photos/fish/Worms%20002.avi

Using a fork, I pulled the coiled up worms out and dropped them in the
sink.
After a few minutes they realized they were out and started moving around.
Gross!
I did not eat the cod raw.

--
Dan

Cod are known to sometimes have worms. This is one of the reasons that for
the most part Cod is not eaten in raw form in Japan. Cod is always served as
miso-yaki (marinated in miso and grilled) or as an ingredient in a nabe (hot
pot).
M

wrote in message
...

Using a fork, I pulled the coiled up worms out and dropped them in the
sink.
After a few minutes they realized they were out and started moving
around. Gross!
I did not eat the cod raw.

--
Dan




That sort of thing can make a guy seriously reconsider this whole
sushi business.

This is why in Japan, people respect the "itamae".
And why it's a good policy to eat raw fish prepared by someone who knows
what they're doing.
That said, it's not like every fish you catch is filled with parasites.
Of the countless fish I've caught and prepared for raw consumption, I can
only
count may 5-6 tines that I found a worm and had to remove it.
I've probably seen more dead worms in packaged fish sold at supermarkets.
M

"Wilson" wrote in message
...
sometime in the recent past posted this:
"I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver
Island..."

What a great place you are in for sea kayaking! That was one of my
sports too when I lived back east - mostly IK. I almost drowned 4
times in the space of 5 years so I moved to the desert. Sporting
feller that I am, tho, I give the sea another crack at me at least
once a year.

I wouldn't be too experimental and adventurous on what I ate on a sea
kayaking expedition, tho. You don't really want to get sick when you
have to paddle home (this from a guy who got food poisoning by eating
a ratty old salami on a camping trip 2 years ago) . You must be
familiar with Euell Gibbons' book, *Stalking the Blue-Eyed Scallop*.
He was writing about your part of the country. He died kind of young,
tho...
Choked on a pine tree, I believe.

--
Wilson N45 W67

I've heard of him.
He's the one with Wild Hickory Nuts right?

"tom" wrote in message
news:LGMGj.127000$pM4.117629@pd7urf1no...

Hai! Those halibut are really something --- stories abound of guys
under-estimating their strength, hauling them into a small rowboat only to
have them smash the hull by slamming around and then they swim away,
leaving the fisherman in the water amidst the wreckage of what used to be
a rowboat. Yeah, they're solid muscle --- if I get one (big if) it'll a
little guy.

Salmon gear is more complicated than simple bottom-fish jigging gear, so I
think if I catch anything, it will be snapper, rock cod, maybe halibut, or
bivalves because I won't have room for fancy gear.

I was just reading the Health Canada website and they have a blanket
recommendation to freeze everything. I obviously won't be able to do
that. OK, I will try to minimize my exposure to parasites by avoiding
salmon, and only using healthy-looking snapper/rock cod/geoduck-foot as
sashimi, the rest I will either bake wrapped in kelp, buried in sand under
a fire on the beach, or cooked the First nations way on spreader-sticks
over a fire.

Last trip I ate a bunch of mussels, here's a pic:

http://picasaweb.google.com/tomfromv...62149196161634



To be honest I had no idea that you could eat mussels in raw form. I always
steam them.
Just wondering if the V.I. area has Uni. I guess even if they were there
youl;d have to check
the regulations and all.
M

"Wilson" wrote in message
...
sometime in the recent past Musashi posted this:
"Wilson" wrote in message
...
sometime in the recent past posted this:
"I have the good fortune to be going on a kayak trip off Vancouver
Island..."

What a great place you are in for sea kayaking! That was one of my
sports too when I lived back east - mostly IK. I almost drowned 4
times in the space of 5 years so I moved to the desert. Sporting
feller that I am, tho, I give the sea another crack at me at least
once a year.

I wouldn't be too experimental and adventurous on what I ate on a sea
kayaking expedition, tho. You don't really want to get sick when you
have to paddle home (this from a guy who got food poisoning by eating
a ratty old salami on a camping trip 2 years ago) . You must be
familiar with Euell Gibbons' book, *Stalking the Blue-Eyed Scallop*.
He was writing about your part of the country. He died kind of young,
tho...
Choked on a pine tree, I believe.

--
Wilson N45 W67

I've heard of him.
He's the one with Wild Hickory Nuts right?


I was making a bad joke, he's used to be quoted on the Grape-Nuts
commercials saying "Some parts of a pine tree are edible." He was a fairly
famous naturalist.


OK got it. I didn't remember that part.